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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
    • 76818
    #1

    Coal miners are never going back to work...

    The politicians can give all the speeches they want and make promises they can't deliver.

    The simple fact is coal's future is dead..

    It now cost $50 to produce a megawatt of solar power. Meanwhile it costs $102 to produce that same megawatt burning coal.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/sola...18-5?r=US&IR=T

    All the coal miners living in the past will still be unemployed next year and 10 years from now if they don't get off their asses and learn a new trade.

    This is why Trump was trying to place tariffs on solar panels because he like other Republicans would rather waste tax payers money and cause you to pay 2 times as much for electricity than to admit they are wrong.

    There will never be a new coal power plant built in the US.
    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.
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    • Bladewire
      StraightBro
      • Aug 2003
      • 56220
      #2
      We export our coal, it's the 14th largest U.S. export. Trumps goal is to export coal at high prices.

      Coal power is very third world.






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        • kane
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Aug 2001
          • 20684
          #3
          The state of California is working on passing a law that makes it a requirement for all newly constructed homes to have solar panels installed.

          Coal is yesterday's energy source. Trump sold people a pipe dream.

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            • dyna mo
              just a fucking jerk
              • Dec 2008
              • 68184
              #4
              we should go one step further and outlaw coal exports, they've surged.

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                • Bladewire
                  StraightBro
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 56220
                  #5
                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                  we should go one step further and outlaw coal exports, they've surged.
                  No Trump needs the extra income to 9ffset the windfall he gave the top .1% in the tax cuts so he's selling our natural resources cheep so if we ever need coal for future Generations it will all be depleted I we'll be forced to import


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                    • bronco67
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 29026
                      #6
                      There's about 50,000 total people in the coal industry. It would probably be cheaper to pay them all a living wage for the rest of their lives than to let the industry continue.

                      What's Trump's next genius plan? To put all the asbestos back into buildings?

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                        • beerptrol
                          Confirmed Asshole
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 12722
                          #7
                          Facts doesn't matter to the Chump cultist.
                          “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.”
                          -- Ulysses S. Grant

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                            • Rochard
                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 75733
                              #8
                              Coal is dead. It has been for some time.

                              I understand that entire communities are based around coal, and their families have worked in coal mines for generations but coal is dead.

                              Originally posted by kane
                              The state of California is working on passing a law that makes it a requirement for all newly constructed homes to have solar panels installed.
                              I believe they passed this law today.

                              I have solar and.... I pay very little if anything. I pay $125 for the solar panels, but four or five times a year I refer someone to the solar company and they give me $500 each time someone installs with them. It's been working great for me.
                              Herschel Savage
                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                • huey
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 3955
                                  #9
                                  This is where coal goes.

                                  74% of the steel produced today uses coal. Metallurgical coal – or coking coal – is a vital ingredient in the steel making process. ... Steel is an alloy based primarily on iron. As iron occurs only as iron oxides in the earth's crust, the ores must be converted, or 'reduced', using carbon.

                                  In 2014, the share of world energy consumption for electricity generation by source was coal at 40.8%, natural gas at 21.6%, nuclear at 10.6%, hydro at 16.4%, other sources (solar, wind, geothermal, biomass, etc.) at 6.3% and oil at 4.3%. Coal and natural gas were the most used energy fuels for generating electricity.

                                  I live in Vancouver and we have two coal ports. All the coal goes to China. One port loaded
                                  1 million tons in the month of December for export. They are doubling their capacity as we speak for next year.

                                  Coal will be around a long time.
                                  opinions are like assholes.................


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                                    • 2MuchMark
                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 50923
                                      #10
                                      Coal is so dead. It's too expensive and too dirty, and the economic case for green energy has already taken off and is growing stronger and is more profitable. And besides, most coal mining is done by machines and robots, not humans. And besides who needs this?

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                                        • crockett
                                          in a van by the river
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 76818
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                          There's about 50,000 total people in the coal industry. It would probably be cheaper to pay them all a living wage for the rest of their lives than to let the industry continue.

                                          What's Trump's next genius plan? To put all the asbestos back into buildings?
                                          Well the problem is they have to phase the existing plants out because not every place can use solar or wind. They are phasing the old coal plants out with natural gas but its gonna be a point sooner or later that will force them all out of business.

                                          The issue is as each plant closes the demand goes down but the production cost of digging up coal remains the same. What this will cause is a spike in the price because the cost to dig it up is shared across less and less coal plants making the remaining plants pay more for the product until its just too expensive to produce.

                                          My guess is they are pushing coal off shore as much as they can in order to keep the price as low as they can.
                                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                            • huey
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2003
                                              • 3955
                                              #12
                                              Around 0.6 tonnes (600 kg) of coke produces 1 tonne (1000 kg) of steel, which means that around 770 kg of coal are used to produce 1 tonne of steel through this production route. Basic Oxygen Furnaces currently produce about 74% of the world's steel.

                                              What part of using coal for steel don't you guys understand.

                                              Till they start making Teslas out of plastic coal will be needed to produce steel.
                                              opinions are like assholes.................


                                              "They aren't after me, they are AFTER YOU! Im just in their way"
                                              -D.J. Trump

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                                                • beerptrol
                                                  Confirmed Asshole
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 12722
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by huey
                                                  Around 0.6 tonnes (600 kg) of coke produces 1 tonne (1000 kg) of steel, which means that around 770 kg of coal are used to produce 1 tonne of steel through this production route. Basic Oxygen Furnaces currently produce about 74% of the world's steel.

                                                  What part of using coal for steel don't you guys understand.

                                                  Till they start making Teslas out of plastic coal will be needed to produce steel.
                                                  What part of the coal jobs aren't coming back don't you understand
                                                  “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.”
                                                  -- Ulysses S. Grant

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                                                    • mikeet
                                                      this & that
                                                      • May 2005
                                                      • 5361
                                                      #14
                                                      i used to have one of these back in the day

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                                                        • Look Chang
                                                          Voyeur
                                                          • Sep 2010
                                                          • 3689
                                                          #15
                                                          Who will regret that ?

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                                                            • Bladewire
                                                              StraightBro
                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 56220
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Look Chang
                                                              Who will regret that ?

                                                              US Mine Disasters Fast Facts

                                                              Worst coal mine disaster in US history: 362 miners are killed in an explosion at the Monongah Nos. 6 and 8 Coal Mines in Monongah, West Virginia.

                                                              259 miners are killed in a fire at the Cherry Mine in Cherry, Illinois.

                                                              An explosion kills 263 at the Stag Canon No. 2 Coal Mine in Dawson, New Mexico.

                                                              91 miners are killed by an explosion at Pond Creek No. 1 in Bartley, West Virginia.

                                                              111 miners are killed in an explosion at the Centralia No. 5 mine in Centralia, Illinois.

                                                              An explosion at Orient No. 2 mine in West Frankfort, Illinois kills 119 miners.


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