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I hope it's not but thats sounds like a "dream that will never come true"HaHaHaComment
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If its real it could get very interesting.PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic
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I wish something would come from this.
http://www.redtube.com/dmca
RedTube is just going to claim they have no liability over what videos are uploaded to their sites. I fucking hate tube sites too, but it's going to take congress to enact a special copyright team & "traffic filtering" before copyright infringement is stopped on a large scale.
These court cases have failed on much larger instances than this. (rapidshare, piratebay, etc).
Unfortunately, lawyers will keep telling copyright holders they have a case to collect ridiculous amounts of money in legal fees.
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This is why I love TR... they just do everything that is right.i like wafflesComment
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sadly i dont see anything changing.No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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nice, I hope it goes good..
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Anyone who thinks this will change anything in this business....just ask Perfect 10 how all of those lawsuits worked out for them.sig too bigComment
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How can I donate money to teenrevenue to help them with legal expenses?Comment
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Franck is right.
Redtube and the other tubes host a lot of TRs content.
I see this being dropped like the other lawsuits once they work out a deal.Comment
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One sponsor suing one Tube is not the end of Tubes.Comment
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well since it is a civil case, that absolutely can not happen.
if you mean that they will lose a judgement, that would require a fundamental shift in all of the established legal precedents, or absolute proof that redtube direct employees are uploading the videos them self.
so not very likely
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great news
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They are legal and I really didn't get into adult to debate morality, if you can't handle it then don't promote them, but they are one of my best converting sites ever since I started promoting teen. I was more talking about how TR won't allow affiliates to just grab content and plaster it all over the place, as a result, no one promoting a TR site has any advantage over another, if the surfer wants to get paysite content, they need to pay to get it, not keep searching for it.
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Then say that instead of saying they do everything right because that's simply not true. They are actually more bigger scum imo than a lot of other sponsors.They are legal and I really didn't get into adult to debate morality, if you can't handle it then don't promote them, but they are one of my best converting sites ever since I started promoting teen. I was more talking about how TR won't allow affiliates to just grab content and plaster it all over the place, as a result, no one promoting a TR site has any advantage over another, if the surfer wants to get paysite content, they need to pay to get it, not keep searching for it.Comment
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how can I get that RK banner for my site? I checked the webmaster area on bb but didn't see it must be custom just for redtubeicq - 473556037Comment
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WOW!! I'm gonna keep my eye on this one...Comment
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TR has been pretty good about restricting content. But when they did the pregnant milton twins I said fuck them.They are legal and I really didn't get into adult to debate morality, if you can't handle it then don't promote them, but they are one of my best converting sites ever since I started promoting teen. I was more talking about how TR won't allow affiliates to just grab content and plaster it all over the place, as a result, no one promoting a TR site has any advantage over another, if the surfer wants to get paysite content, they need to pay to get it, not keep searching for it.
They converted well for me YEARS ago.Comment
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Damn i didnt know it was legal to put stolen content on tubes. Yeee. that makes my job much easier. ;)No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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What's congress got to do with Austria?I wish something would come from this.
http://www.redtube.com/dmca
RedTube is just going to claim they have no liability over what videos are uploaded to their sites. I fucking hate tube sites too, but it's going to take congress to enact a special copyright team & "traffic filtering" before copyright infringement is stopped on a large scale.
These court cases have failed on much larger instances than this. (rapidshare, piratebay, etc). Unfortunately, lawyers will keep telling copyright holders they have a case to collect ridiculous amounts of money in legal fees.Comment
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Quick thought.. The defense for tube sites is that they are too big to monitor and approve uploads.
So would it not be possible to spam them with tens of thousands of worthless, pointless video clips to see how they react? My guess is they're able to filter the bad videos just fine, and would do so to save their website..
Monitoring of how they *CAN* be effective at removing worthless videos could then be used in court against them, no? ie: Why can they get rid of the bad ones and not get rid of the illegal ones?Comment
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Well it's not stolen see....someone bought a license to view the content via a monthly membership.
They then downloaded all of the videos, and are using redtube's servers to "back up" their files.
Other people who also have a right to view the content because they purchased a membership, can watch the copy hosted on redtube's servers.
As ridiculous as all of that sounds....it's perfectly 100% legal and that's the problem. Until that part of the law gets fixed, there really isn't fuck all copyright holders can do.
So you can piss and moan and whine about the way things are, you can even file unwinnable lawsuits to try and make yourself feel better (and your attorney richer)....or you can do what entrepreneurs do, figure out a way to make a profit in today's market.
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Let me save everyone the suspense. This lawsuit against redtube will not change anything in anyway. The only ones who will profit from this are the lawyers. Redtube will continue their business model exactly the same as it is now. Like Youtube, they are protected behind DMCA laws. One wonders why companies even bother with these kind of lawsuits nowadays. History has shown, they are quite ineffective.Comment
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Well for US based traffic, or any international ISP that decides to cooperate.
http://www.internetnews.com/governme...or+a+Fight.htm
""In its ongoing effort to combat online piracy, the association representing the recording industry recently dropped its policy of filing lawsuits against individual infringers in favor of partnering with Internet service providers to filter for unlawful content. "
"But at a late stage in the negotiations, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., introduced an amendment that would have allowed for "reasonable network management practices such as deterring unlawful activity, including child pornography and copyright infringement.""
Feinstein has previously taken a tough stance on intellectual property rights, cosponsoring the recently enacted PRO IP Act, which stiffened penalties for infringers and called for the formation of a federal intellectual property enforcement office. "
It would mean a HUGE reduction in traffic to any site that is being "filtered" and on a very large scale, (not just one site). Of course even this won't completely stop piracy of copyrighted material, but it's the best we can hope for IMO.┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
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great!
hope they will win the courtComment
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for all the people who missed it .., rkmedia does not own redtube. It is a 3 pronged assault on the site, their advertisers, and the host. Redtube is and has been for sale, you can't sell something with pending lawsuits. This is only one of two suits against them.
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Unless I totally missed it.. who is the owner of RedTube ?Comment
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You make me laugh...Well it's not stolen see....someone bought a license to view the content via a monthly membership.
They then downloaded all of the videos, and are using redtube's servers to "back up" their files.
Other people who also have a right to view the content because they purchased a membership, can watch the copy hosted on redtube's servers.
As ridiculous as all of that sounds....it's perfectly 100% legal and that's the problem. Until that part of the law gets fixed, there really isn't fuck all copyright holders can do.
So you can piss and moan and whine about the way things are, you can even file unwinnable lawsuits to try and make yourself feel better (and your attorney richer)....or you can do what entrepreneurs do, figure out a way to make a profit in today's market.Comment
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I wasn't trying to.
I don't like DMCA anymore than any of you....I'm just pointing out that this is the way things are, and until the law is changed, a defense like that would hold up.
And until there is true international cooperation on copyright law, even a change in the U.S. law won't mean much.sig too bigComment
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they were ridiculous cunning and intelligent in pulling off the largest traffic grab in history while everyone sat by on their 200 dollar diesel jeans and watched them jack everyone legally. nothing to be done now. cry.Don Pueblo
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The DMCA counts for user uploaded content which we all know is not how the tubes started. If this was a real business, legal action would have been brought much sooner and the server logs would have been subpoenaed to show that most of these tube sites started with thousands of videos before a single surfer landed on the home page. If they tried to destroy those records they would have been hit with destroying evidence which is actually a worse crime.
But you are right, it's a little late now. But actually, if every sponsor protected his own content, then there would be no problem. But we all are still waiting for one white knight to bring down the tubes which is a little silly.jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs ConvertComment
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Awesome! I know I've sent them links a few times of places stealing their content.. They seem to be one of the few that at least try.
Big props for them actually doing something while everyone else stands around and just bitches.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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Actually, you see TeenGF's here, they advertise a huge banner at tube8,
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