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  • Boobzooka
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    • Aug 2006
    • 626
    #1

    WTF is wrong with designers? Nobody needs work?

    Several days ago I emailed 4 different designers I found via GFY seeking quotes for a simple tour. I was detailed about what I wanted, without being demanding or overly precise. I didn't even hint at deadlines or price limitations. Everything a designer should want in a potential client. Yet so far only 2 have bothered to respond (days later), and only 1 gave me a quote, which I agreed to, and asked how they'd like me to pay. No response. As of right now, noone has confirmed the job or allowed me to pay them. What is the point of spamming GFY if you ignore job offers?

    Can anyone here recommend someone reliable?


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    • BV
      wtf
      • Sep 2001
      • 10914
      #2
      don't pay first

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        • _Richard_
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          • Oct 2006
          • 30989
          #3
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            • CamTraffic
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                • STAROTICA
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 1079
                  #5
                  its not the fact that.....Nobody needs work....its the fact that nobody WANTS or WANTS to work!

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                    • Forest
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                      • Aug 2001
                      • 9135
                      #6
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                        • Ozarkz
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 2377
                          #7
                          You may have been a little too generic with your contacts.. Maybe they felt you aren't very serious?

                          Designers are kinda flakey tho.. I'd also only go with designers on GFY that have a OLD join date and post often and have lots of positive references..

                          Zuzanna, Deej, Forest, etc..

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                            • Sands
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 3134
                              #8
                              Definitely hit up Zuzana Designs if you haven't already.

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                                • HorseShit
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                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 17513
                                  #9
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                                    • Fat Panda
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                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 13296
                                      #10
                                      you hear this all the time

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                                        • aniloscash
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                                          • Oct 2008
                                          • 1161
                                          #11
                                          I think designers are like actors. they just want quick pay and not to work hard. any time gave them 50 up front I never got a completed job. I wont do it anymore.
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                                            • Janak
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                                              • Jan 2009
                                              • 483
                                              #12
                                              Yeah I've had this experience recently as well. I can recommend Fletch for a good job at a reasonable price. He might even answer your emails.
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                                                • shermo
                                                  #13
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                                                    • Forest
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                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                      • 9135
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by aniloscash
                                                      I think designers are like actors. they just want quick pay and not to work hard. any time gave them 50 up front I never got a completed job. I wont do it anymore.
                                                      the good thing about me is im not a designer. Im a business owner. I run the business and I let the designers do the designing.

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                                                        • LiveDose
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                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                          • 25792
                                                          #15
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                                                            • Loch
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                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 7674
                                                              #16
                                                              never ever ever pay designers in full upfront, ever ever

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                                                                • NemesisEnforcer
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                                                                  • Aug 2003
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by DareRing
                                                                  Several days ago I emailed 4 different designers I found via GFY seeking quotes for a simple tour. I was detailed about what I wanted, without being demanding or overly precise. I didn't even hint at deadlines or price limitations. Everything a designer should want in a potential client. Yet so far only 2 have bothered to respond (days later), and only 1 gave me a quote, which I agreed to, and asked how they'd like me to pay. No response. As of right now, noone has confirmed the job or allowed me to pay them. What is the point of spamming GFY if you ignore job offers?

                                                                  Can anyone here recommend someone reliable?
                                                                  I sympathize with you. I'm having the same problem.
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                                                                        • Zuzana Designs
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                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 20901
                                                                          #19
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                                                                            • prezzz
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                                                                              • Jul 2004
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                                                                              #20
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                                                                                • BVF
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                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 13975
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by DareRing
                                                                                  Several days ago I emailed 4 different designers I found via GFY seeking quotes for a simple tour. I was detailed about what I wanted, without being demanding or overly precise. I didn't even hint at deadlines or price limitations. Everything a designer should want in a potential client. Yet so far only 2 have bothered to respond (days later), and only 1 gave me a quote, which I agreed to, and asked how they'd like me to pay. No response. As of right now, noone has confirmed the job or allowed me to pay them. What is the point of spamming GFY if you ignore job offers?

                                                                                  Can anyone here recommend someone reliable?
                                                                                  I think that some of the people on here aren't really even designers.....They're just saying it so that they will feel more appropriate in posting here.

                                                                                  Hell, Headless comes in here with the designer label and we all know he just makes bogus static banners......That's not a fucking designer...

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                                                                                    • chris_joseph
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                                                                                      • Apr 2006
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                                                                                      #22
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                                                                                        • Boobzooka
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                                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                                          • 626
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Zuzana Designs
                                                                                          Thanks everyone for the kind words.. If you are still looking feel free to shoot me an e-mail.. I'm about to go to bed for the night, But will be on all day tomorrow..
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                                                                                            • spline
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                                                                                                • AaronM
                                                                                                  GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                  • 46917
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DareRing
                                                                                                  Several days ago I emailed 4 different designers I found via GFY seeking quotes for a simple tour. I was detailed about what I wanted, without being demanding or overly precise. I didn't even hint at deadlines or price limitations. Everything a designer should want in a potential client. Yet so far only 2 have bothered to respond (days later), and only 1 gave me a quote, which I agreed to, and asked how they'd like me to pay. No response. As of right now, noone has confirmed the job or allowed me to pay them. What is the point of spamming GFY if you ignore job offers?

                                                                                                  Can anyone here recommend someone reliable?

                                                                                                  You deal with models who do the same damn thing.

                                                                                                  Answer ads, maybe even send in nude pics, set up interviews, then don't show.

                                                                                                  People are stupid.

                                                                                                  If you need a designer, I will be happy to recommend a few to you. Fishing for them on GFY is useless unless you wish to sort through the bullshit.

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                                                                                                    • AaronM
                                                                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                      • 46917
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by BV
                                                                                                      don't pay first
                                                                                                      Too late.

                                                                                                      Originally posted by DareRing
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                                                                                                        • Boobzooka
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                                                          • 626
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                          Too late.
                                                                                                          Based on all the recommendations here, I felt confident Zuzana is trustworthy.


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                                                                                                            • AaronM
                                                                                                              GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                              • 46917
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by DareRing
                                                                                                              Based on all the recommendations here, I felt confident Zuzana is trustworthy.

                                                                                                              And I would agree that she probably is. There is an exception to every rule.

                                                                                                              Can't tell you how many people say not to pay photographers up front but that's how the vast majority of my business is done anyway.

                                                                                                              Good luck with your new designer.

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                                                                                                                • Zuzana Designs
                                                                                                                  All Your Design Needs
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                  • 20901
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DareRing
                                                                                                                  PayPal sent.
                                                                                                                  Thanks for the work..

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                                                                                                                    • james_clickmemedia
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                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                                      #30
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                                                                                                                        • nicanor14
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                                                                                                                          • Sep 2007
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                                                                                                                          #31
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                                                                                                                            • Deej
                                                                                                                              I make pixels work
                                                                                                                              • Jun 2005
                                                                                                                              • 24386
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              If I happened to be one of the designers that did not reply, my excuse is that I am on the road. I have been for 3 days now. Just arrived in Phx tonight for the phx forum.

                                                                                                                              If I was one not to respond I apologize, but I do not have my email at hand unless i logged in on the web. I dont have my outlook express hooked up on my laptop.

                                                                                                                              If Im not one of them, then consider me in the future

                                                                                                                              Zuzana will take good care of you until then

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                                                                                                                                • sysk
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                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                  • 1005
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Ozarkz
                                                                                                                                  You may have been a little too generic with your contacts.. Maybe they felt you aren't very serious?

                                                                                                                                  Designers are kinda flakey tho.. I'd also only go with designers on GFY that have a OLD join date and post often and have lots of positive references..

                                                                                                                                  Zuzanna, Deej, Forest, etc..
                                                                                                                                  Kinda ironic your join date is Jan 2009
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                                                                                                                                    • thumbdesigner
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                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 1070
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Hit me up if you still looking.. thanks

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                                                                                                                                        • RadicalSights
                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2009
                                                                                                                                          • 1595
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I deleted an email by accident last week. That was probably you.
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                                                                                                                                            • pornocruto
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                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2009
                                                                                                                                              • 1308
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by STAROTICA
                                                                                                                                              its not the fact that.....Nobody needs work....its the fact that nobody WANTS or WANTS to work!
                                                                                                                                              Good call..

                                                                                                                                              Designers are lazy ass bitches.

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                                                                                                                                                • Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                  GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 60840
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM

                                                                                                                                                  Can't tell you how many people say not to pay photographers up front but that's how the vast majority of my business is done anyway.
                                                                                                                                                  in my experience, i get paid up front 100% from my best clients. Some pay me before placing their order.

                                                                                                                                                  Those who go around claiming 'never pay a designer up front" just do not work with someone who knows how to communicate, deliver, and meet deadlines.

                                                                                                                                                  Anyone who has steady flow of work must take payments up front, i know I do not start on one second of work until at least 50% deposit is made. My schedule is only for the paying customer, I dont start on work when people dick me around for a week trying to get payment. You want work, you pay and I deliver, been doing it this way since day 1.

                                                                                                                                                  Now for long time clients, its a different story, but usually my long time clients pay me in 100% in full without question.

                                                                                                                                                  When i see these threads I wonder "who are these shadow lurkers these people hire?" because they never name them, just "i tried to hire 6 people from gfy and none answered emails"

                                                                                                                                                  anyway, to anyone who needs something done try contacting a very visible and reputable person.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 60840
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Janak
                                                                                                                                                      Yeah I've had this experience recently as well. I can recommend Fletch for a good job at a reasonable price. He might even answer your emails.
                                                                                                                                                      Thank you!

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                                                                                                                                                        • Vixenator
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                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2008
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                          When i see these threads I wonder "who are these shadow lurkers these people hire?" because they never name them, just "i tried to hire 6 people from gfy and none answered emails"
                                                                                                                                                          I'm guessing that people who experience this and subsequently whine about it are also oftentimes the same people who think that they can get great things made while only paying $3-$4 bucks an hour to people no one else hires, because everyone else has been suckered into using those "expensive" designers...
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                                                                                                                                                            • Ace_luffy
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                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                              • 12167
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by sherm
                                                                                                                                                              Try Zuzanadesigns.com or Creationcrew.com . Both are solid and reliable!
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                                                                                                                                                                • Cyndalie
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Klen
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                      • 32234
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      +1 for zuzana

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Iron Fist
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                                          • 23400
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
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                                                                                                                                                                            • BradM
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 3397
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Most people don't want to work. I've had some TERRIBLE experiences with designers here lately.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Sid70
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 16413
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Broda
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                                                                                                                                                                      Most people don't want to work. I've had some TERRIBLE experiences with designers here lately.
                                                                                                                                                                                      You obviously decided on the wrong ones, then.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Broda
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 1874
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DareRing
                                                                                                                                                                                          Several days ago I emailed 4 different designers I found via GFY seeking quotes for a simple tour. I was detailed about what I wanted, without being demanding or overly precise. I didn't even hint at deadlines or price limitations. Everything a designer should want in a potential client. Yet so far only 2 have bothered to respond (days later), and only 1 gave me a quote, which I agreed to, and asked how they'd like me to pay. No response. As of right now, noone has confirmed the job or allowed me to pay them. What is the point of spamming GFY if you ignore job offers?

                                                                                                                                                                                          Can anyone here recommend someone reliable?
                                                                                                                                                                                          That does sound odd. One should think that they'd have the decency to at least respond back with either a decline or a quote as requested. Not answering sort of eliminates the chance of any possible future work.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Funny thing is that it works the other way around, too. People asking for quotes and designers replying to them and never getting a response
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Serge Litehead
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by james_clickmemedia
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                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Broda
                                                                                                                                                                                              That does sound odd. One should think that they'd have the decency to at least respond back with either a decline or a quote as requested. Not answering sort of eliminates the chance of any possible future work.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Funny thing is that it works the other way around, too. People asking for quotes and designers replying to them and never getting a response
                                                                                                                                                                                              I had one guy recently jumping a gun on us on another forum that we didn't reply to his email - sometimes mail gets into spam folder and goes unnoticed, which happened that time although I try to weed out all good correspondence from there, but things happen. Someone suggested him to contacts us by IM, which he than did but didn't get right away reply again since we're in different timezones and for all of this unfortunate miscommunication he had no problem making publicly all kinds of bad rep assumptions about our company, just to find out later we're too expensive for him.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Other times when there's no right away response from us it is that we're occupied actually with current projects - although we try to be very responsive nonetheless.

                                                                                                                                                                                              And yes, as a design firm we're not too happy about when people ask for quotes and then leave without a response either - but we would be ridiculed if we brought that up on boards))) but what can you do? just go on with your business

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BV
                                                                                                                                                                                                  don't pay first
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Amen toe dat shit.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SAC
                                                                                                                                                                                                      you hear this all the time
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes you do. It is ridiculously pathetic.
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