does Google archive all deleted Gmail forever?

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  • d-null
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    • Apr 2007
    • 13724
    #1

    does Google archive all deleted Gmail forever?

    was just wondering about this when I noticed that gmail chat logs end up being saved like regular emails......


    does Google archive all email that was ever sent to or from gmail, even after you have deleted it yourself? just thinking how it would be interesting historically (and ethically terrible) if someone could ever get into those massive google data vaults and pull up all the email and chatlogs that a person ever sent in their lifetime, like 30 years from now when they become president or something

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    • Libertine
      sex dwarf
      • May 2002
      • 17860
      #2
      The delete function actually deletes emails, afaik.

      At first, they didn't have a delete function, but customers demanded one.
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        • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
          (felis madjewicus)
          • Jul 2006
          • 20368
          #3
          Google is the works of the Devil...

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            • bdld
              $100,000
              • Dec 2001
              • 11452
              #4
              i remember hearing that they keep it for X amount of days, i think it was either 7 or 30..

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                • 2012
                  So Fucking What
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 17189
                  #5
                  yeah, they're deleted
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                    • TimBlaze
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1625
                      #6
                      ive masterbated to the google logo
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                        • woj
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 47880
                          #7
                          They probably don't actually delete them, there is really no reason to delete useful data when storage space is cheap...
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                            • Jdoughs
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 5794
                              #8
                              There is a British Conspiracy guy who did a show on google, and in that documentary google official comment was that all user data, toolbar queries, searches, times, dates, frequency ETC, was stored for an indefinite amount of time, or until they felt they had a threshold of such data. (which hasnt been reached yet).

                              BUT, you can also find representatives that give answers like this, saying that its deleted forever. http://www.google.com/support/forum/...00891fbc&hl=en

                              Bottom line, once adsense began being run in gmail sidebars it became 'useful user data' that directly effects their bottom line, and that of their advertisers, so I guess, do the math
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                                • rowan
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 17393
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Libertine
                                  The delete function actually deletes emails, afaik.

                                  At first, they didn't have a delete function, but customers demanded one.
                                  Deleting it probably just sets a "don't show this to the user any more" flag. It's still stored.

                                  I also saw that doco and the Google spokesperson was skirting around the reasons for their potentially indefinite retention of data.

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                                    • CyberHustler
                                      Masterbaiter
                                      • Feb 2006
                                      • 28777
                                      #10
                                      gmail rocks...
                                      “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                        • wootpr0n
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2007
                                          • 250
                                          #11
                                          AdWords ads = instantly generated

                                          Google keeps FOREVER:
                                          -search query
                                          -IP address/hostname
                                          -what you clicked on
                                          -Google account (if logged-in)

                                          Deleted messages get deleted 30 days after you have deleted them.

                                          But it really doesn't matter. If the government wants access to your e-mail, they can get it from AT&T. All of the worlds internet and telephone traffic passes through them at some point, and they have rooms where the NSA can just help itself to whatever it wants.

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                                          If you are concerned, send your e-mail with PGP encryption. They can't crack it.

                                          Which may not be enough. There was once a drug dealer using PGP and they couldn't read his e-mail because it was secured with PGP.

                                          So they broke into his house and put a keylogger on his computer so they could find out what he was typing. And the worst thing is that the FBI keylogger is deliberately ignored by Norton Antivirus, government-helping scum that they are!!!!!!!!
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                                            • rowan
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 17393
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by wootpr0n
                                              But it really doesn't matter. If the government wants access to your e-mail, they can get it from AT&T. All of the worlds internet and telephone traffic passes through them at some point, and they have rooms where the NSA can just help itself to whatever it wants.
                                              I can believe a sizeable portion of traffic would go through AT&T, but not EVERYTHING. For example, to get from Australia to Japan there's no path via the USA. ISPs and hosts also have private peering links which decentralise the net somewhat.

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                                                • wizzart
                                                  scriptmaster
                                                  • May 2006
                                                  • 5246
                                                  #13
                                                  I don't think they have time, space and peoples to archive that
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                                                    • Kick Ass Chat
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 2057
                                                      #14
                                                      Nothng you ever write using gmail is secure ever. gmail is not for conducting rewal business on if you want any privacy at all.
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                                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 40377
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by wootpr0n
                                                          AdWords ads = instantly generated

                                                          Google keeps FOREVER:
                                                          -search query
                                                          -IP address/hostname
                                                          -what you clicked on
                                                          -Google account (if logged-in)
                                                          don't be logged in the google account, have a dynamic IP, delete cookies regularly
                                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                            • Cyber Fucker
                                                              Hmm
                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                              • 12642
                                                              #16
                                                              Alright, from now I will stop using gmail and I am gonna switch all the shit to my own box.

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                                                                • Helix
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 6021
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Echelon has you

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                                                                    • Net Money
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2007
                                                                      • 539
                                                                      #18
                                                                      gmail is a security leak in many ways.

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                                                                        • Jarmusch
                                                                           
                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 12479
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I've heard the google founders all come from reptilian bloodlines, you figure out the rest.

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