Connecting mental illness and mass shooting misses the point, experts say
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"Gun cause mass shooting"
Lol no shitComment
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It's funny how you claim everyone else is brainwashed by the media, yet you push right wing talking points..
As soon as this shootings happened and everyone started to see "This one would be the one to break the camels back" the right wing started pushing mental health as the scape goat..
Here is the fact grape.. These shootings dont happen for one specific reason.. They happen because of a combination of things come together.
One of those things might be mental heath, but that's not a issue in every shooting...some happen because the kid was bullied others because he was radicalized by some outside factor..others just because...
Another of those things is guns.. You can not have a mass shooting with out a gun. It's simply impossible..guns is the only common denominator in every shooting aside from the victims and the shooter..
Yet another thing is easy access to guns.. Many guns used in crimes are obtained legally, many are obtained illegally. Yet regardless its pretty easy to get a gun if you want one..illegally or legally..
So we have a few things that need to be addressed to stop these mass shooting grape.. Mental health is just the right wings cop out and the talking point they have obviously reherssed ahead of time..
Actually grape that brings up a pretty good point.. don't you think it's pretty sick and demented that the right-wing had pre-planned talking points to try to blame mental health for the next shooting?
Think about that grape.. They put together talking points to blame mental health and just waited for the next kids to die so they could hit the ground running with their latest distraction.. That's pretty sick dont you think?In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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Guns don't cause mass shootings.
Guns make mass shootings possible.
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They were talking about shit that's harder to get in FL than a gun,..
One was health care another was registering to vote and getting a drivers license..
Seriously.. there are more gun shops in FL than liquor stores.. Every fucking street corner there is a fucking church and a pawn shop..every pawn shop is a gun shop..In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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cockett you have been running trump down 3 or 4 times a day for over 1000 days you and the press.. with at least 90% being made up... and at what fucking point are we supposed to take you seriously?
read chicken little asshole, okay? what I did was post a BALANCED view with what I considered to be NEW IMPARTAIL NFORMATION, unlike like a creepy piece of shit like you.. okay
oh BTW why don't you guys have the middle east ban IED's? I'm wondering do you have a tape recorder playing in your ear telling you to breath in and out?
and to be honest about it, I really don't give much of a fuck what trump does as long as fucking hillary and barrak are gone, as is MOST of America.
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cockett you have been running trump down 3 or 4 times a day for over 1000 days you and the press.. with at least 90% being made up... and at what fucking point are we supposed to take you seriously?
read chicken little asshole, okay? what I did was post a BALANCED view with what I considered to be NEW IMPARTAIL NFORMATION, unlike like a creepy piece of shit like you.. okay
oh BTW why don't you guys have the middle east ban IED's? I'm wondering do you have a tape recorder playing in your ear telling you to breath in and out?
and to be honest about it, I really don't give much of a fuck what trump does as long as fucking hillary and barrak are gone, as is MOST of America.
Show me a single post I've made about Trump that was made up.. The simple fact that you think everything about Trump is made up shows you've gone over the edge and no one takes you seriously.
Wake up..In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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All of our mass shooting have one thing in common - the AR15. It is the weapon of choice for mass shootings.Herschel Savage
Brooklyn, NYComment
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Another major problem is assault rifles. Their ONLY purpose is for mass killings. Ban those and shootings will go down significantly. Yes you can kill with hand guns and shotguns but not as efficiently (or gloriously) as with assault rifles with multiple magazines.
But hey, ALL guns are awesome right 2nd Amendment advocates? NO GUN should EVER be banned FOR ANY REASON, even if it's the fucking Death Star from Star Wars.
Right? Pathetic.
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hw about this: some guy said that if trump had, or if they knew before... kinda the sorta facts I see from the links you have posted. mostly all he said she said.
here is a true fact for you to consider: the time spent by a bunch of asshole arguing with each other for brownie points will certainly result in more dead kids and that's about all that will be accomplished THIS YEAR.
that's what happened last year... do you remember? every fucking dead kid this year is the direct result of a bunch of asshole arguing instead off doing anything.
how many is that by the way? I sure there are some 'anti-trump facts' that will point that number out to you..
do you fucking get it now?? or would you prefer to argue about assault rifles? dipshit gezzz what a bunch of tools.. lol
seriously lets all pull together for this one thing then we can argue and shit... ? send that email?Comment
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Another major problem is assault rifles. Their ONLY purpose is for mass killings. Ban those and shootings will go down significantly. Yes you can kill with hand guns and shotguns but not as efficiently (or gloriously) as with assault rifles with multiple magazines.
But hey, ALL guns are awesome right 2nd Amendment advocates? NO GUN should EVER be banned FOR ANY REASON, even if it's the fucking Death Star from Star Wars.
Right? Pathetic.
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Dem's don't want to do anything either. They want to make it look that way but they don't really. Look at the Vegas shooting. Dem's screamed about guns and Bump stocks. GOP was like ''Yeah bump stocks seem like they shouldn't be legal we are on board to do something''
Today? Bump stocks still legal and I don't see anyone on the left trying to push that button anymore. I mean that seems like a free win for them.Comment
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You complain about people doing nothing but you hate on Democrats who try to push reasonable gun laws. You praise Trump who killed a law Obama signed that was specifically meant to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.. Now you claim and Trump claims mentally ill are the problem..
Humm why then did he sign a EO to allow mentally ill to get guns?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/polit...lth/index.html
Oh look CNN filling our heads with dumb things Trump did that you will call fake news...In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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On this point I am in total agreement - with Grapesoda. Sorry Crockett but look at the above quote about the Vegas shootings. He's right. Dems say all kinds of things about stopping gun violence, passing laws, etc. But they don't constantly and consistently push for it UNTIL IT GETS DONE.
My position is this is all Good Cop/Bad Cop bullshit, so BOTH the Dems and Repubs are to blame. Why? Because they both benefit.
How do the Dems, the ANTI-gun advocates benefit? Their constituents get all outraged that nothing gets done and so they....vote for more Democrats. See?
This issue goes beyond party or politics. This is about children dying in school shootings. INNOCENT CHILDREN. Children of Democrats, children of Republicans. GODDAMNED CHILDREN!!!
Do you have children? Do ANY of you on this board? Then why are we not 100% UNITED on this topic? Why do we not totally agree EVERYTHING should be done to stop this madness?
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bans do not work! it only makes items cost more. i can buy a assault rifle even if it is banned. we are going to witness how far citizens will let the government violate constitutional rights. it has already been done with the ban of assault rifles in some states. the court is knowing of the violation and ok'd it! this will stew with all the other issues and hopefully explodes into a civil ...TRUMP 2026 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law!
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Perhaps there could be some middle ground. There's no need to ban guns in violation of the 2nd Amendment. Restricting the sale and / or possession of ammunition to those who aren't mentally ill would suffice.Support American Heroes | How Bad is My Batch? | Vaccine Deaths & Adverse Reactions | Free Speech Coalition | <WARNING> ePayService / Guerra Capital, INC / MTACC payments | Flirt4Free Fucks their Affiliates | Don't do business with piece of shit Andy Alvarez from Webmaster Central / VR3000, who said:
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Looks like Trump picking up the slack to get Bump Stocks banned finally
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We're about to find out who stands where because Trump ordered the Justice Department to put forth a ban on bump stocks.
Both sides are going to fret here. Democrats want to have this ban because it is something they want, but they don't want to come off as if they are agreeing with Trump. Republicans likely don't really care one way or the other, but a good number of them will fear that any kind of ban involving anything gun related will piss their base off.Comment
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no the law obama signed was for people that were handicapped or had mental issue reporting to somewhere of other for help doing something. I checked the other day but I can't keep looking up fake bulshit okay?
As we explained in a 17 February 2017 post, this rule — which never went into effect before being rescinded — did not change any existing laws regulating who is allowed to purchase guns. It merely would have provided a new way to enforce existing restrictions on gun sales by allowing a transfer of information from one agency to another. There are now, and have been for some time, laws that seek to limit gun sales to anyone “who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution” per Title 18 section 922(g) of the United States Code.
now, this is yer big chance to explain how a law the NEVER went into effect allows a nut to buy a gun when trump repeals the law... do you even have a fucking brain? we ARE Waiting????? please explain... come on...I'm waiting
so stop repeating worthless shit and expecting me to gobble it up telling me who I hate, okay?? and you wonder why you have NO credibility like complaining about the same thing all day long every fucking day... yeah dude I sit around breathlessly wafting for the same fucking thing that you do every fucking day all day long.. but one day I know it will be true!Comment
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I know that. The point is there will likely be less resistance to taking ammunition away from certain people vs. taking guns away from certain people. Bills to ban guns would likely be met with legal challenges. If both sides can find some middle ground, the debate doesn't get dragged out and lives can be saved.Support American Heroes | How Bad is My Batch? | Vaccine Deaths & Adverse Reactions | Free Speech Coalition | <WARNING> ePayService / Guerra Capital, INC / MTACC payments | Flirt4Free Fucks their Affiliates | Don't do business with piece of shit Andy Alvarez from Webmaster Central / VR3000, who said:
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If it looks like it can be used as a weapon... ban it!. chainsaws, knives, ice picks, lawnmowers, keys, jolly ranchers. BAN BAN BAN.
Honestly, I'm 100% for stricter rules.
Mental health plays a huge roll, but some people can develop mental health issues later on after they get a gun. I think people should be allowed to own guns and protect themselves but on the other hand humans are extremely unpredictable. I'd say, if you need meds to be on track, maybe a better assessment should be in place like assessed every 3 months, if an assessment is skipped, the gun should be revoked. Also if you like to pose with your gun on social media or talk about harming people the gun should be instantly revoked. It's extra work, but I think it's necessary. Maybe providing a number of references should also be a factor.Comment
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I know, that's the problem. I mean people will do this stuff with guns or not. Like the dad that hung his kids because he didn't want his wife to have custody. It's a real tough subject.
I'm not a gun owner (probably will never be) but I do think people have the right to protect themselves and their family.Comment
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Fyi Dems have no control. The gop holds both houses,they did during Vegas and now. The bump stock is trying to throw a bone but it wasnt used this time. I think Trump would do alot more but he painted himself in corner.I read an article Don Jr told him not to do more,they know they need the NRA to win again.Comment
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Also a crazy person. Without a gun can't do as much damage as one with one.Comment
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Yeah serendipitous that few hours after that post Trump tasks the justice department on that. I think its because that's a layup that he can pass through and it shows he is doing something (really but not really)
Now the Dems honestly cannot be dumb and not take this. But they have really been going full retard lately so maybe they will try to add something related to Daca on it.Comment
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