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  • DBS.US
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    • Aug 2003
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    #1

    If everyone turned in their guns,,,,

    Just a question:
    and then a crazy kid poured gasoline in the halls of a school, set it on fire, killing hundreds what would you say we do next?

    You say guns are to easy to get, but a gas can filled with gas is easier to get.
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    • astronaut x
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      • May 2011
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      #2
      You are fucking dumb.

      Ever heard of a fire alarm and a sprinkler system installed in the fucking ceiling?



      Fire sprinkler systems are triggered by extreme heat and can quickly extinguish a fire in the room where it started.

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        • Bladewire
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          • Aug 2003
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          #3
          Originally posted by DBS.US
          Just a question:
          and then a crazy kid poured gasoline in the halls of a school, set it on fire, killing hundreds what would you say we do next?

          You say guns are to easy to get, but a gas can filled with gas is easier to get.
          Mass shootings are a uniquely American the problem because our unique lack of gun regulations. Someday it will hit really really close to home for you in one way or another like the people in Florida and you'll get it. Until then you act like it's a hypothetical game of someone threatening to take away your toys.


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            • Bladewire
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              • Aug 2003
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              #4
              Originally posted by astronaut x
              You are fucking dumb.

              Ever heard of a fire alarm and a sprinkler system installed in the fucking ceiling?



              Fire sprinkler systems are triggered by extreme heat and can quickly extinguish a fire in the room where it started.

              Thread closed.


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                • kane
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                  • Aug 2001
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by DBS.US
                  Just a question:
                  and then a crazy kid poured gasoline in the halls of a school, set it on fire, killing hundreds what would you say we do next?

                  You say guns are to easy to get, but a gas can filled with gas is easier to get.
                  The sprinkler system would likely keep the fire at bay long enough to get students to safety. I suppose there could be ways to do it, but now we are grasping at straws to prove a point.

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                    • DBS.US
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                      • Aug 2003
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by astronaut x
                      You are fucking dumb.

                      Ever heard of a fire alarm and a sprinkler system installed in the fucking ceiling?



                      Fire sprinkler systems are triggered by extreme heat and can quickly extinguish a fire in the room where it started.

                      Thread closed.




                      Come on man, you really can't be that uninformed? Do you know how easy it is to turn off the water? A high school kid could easily do it.
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                        • onwebcam
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Bladewire
                          Mass shootings are a uniquely American the problem because our unique lack of gun regulations. Someday it will hit really really close to home for you in one way or another like the people in Florida and you'll get it. Until then you act like it's a hypothetical game of someone threatening to take away your toys.
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                            • onwebcam
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by DBS.US


                              Come on man, you really can't be that uninformed? Do you know how easy it is to turn off the water? A high school kid could easily do it.
                              Not to mention padlock the doors.. Did you know that that Cruz dude pulled the alarm and waited for everyone to run out? So much for those practice drills the feds were teaching them weeks prior.
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                                • slapass
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                                  • Nov 2002
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by DBS.US


                                  Come on man, you really can't be that uninformed? Do you know how easy it is to turn off the water? A high school kid could easily do it.
                                  You maybe don’t see the locks? And an alarm goes off if the pressure in the system is low.

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                                    • Bladewire
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                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 56220
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by DBS.US


                                      Come on man, you really can't be that uninformed? Do you know how easy it is to turn off the water? A high school kid could easily do it.
                                      You know how easy it is to turn the water back on? Even a high school kid could do it.

                                      Oh and these are in every classroom



                                      Let me guess, your alt-right fire starting pyro also has fire breathing dragons to burn up all the mean liberals at his school comrade?




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                                        • Rochard
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                                          • Dec 2001
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by DBS.US
                                          ....then a crazy kid poured gasoline in the halls of a school, set it on fire, killing hundreds what would you say we do next?
                                          You cannot stop someone from killing someone else. If they are determined they will find a way.

                                          However, the reason mass shootings are always done with "assault style rifles" is because it's easy, they can use the weapon without fear of them being over powered, avoids close contact, and it's safe for them.

                                          This is why we rarely see someone armed with a machete going on a rampage. If someone shoots at you with an AR15 the only thing you can do is run. But if someone comes at you with a machete it requires them to get close to their victim, and allowed them to put up some kind of a defense (such as trying to block a swing of the machete with a book bag or something). Not to mention it's a lot of work to try to kill twenty people in five minutes with a machete.

                                          Same thing with setting people on fire with gasoline. It's dangerous and they might get harmed themselves by setting themselves on fire.

                                          The one thing I am surprised we do not see more often is people with cars running people down. What's to stop a high school kid from plowing their pick up truck through a crowd of kids as they are leaving school for the day?
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                                            • Rochard
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                                              #12
                                              Someone on Facebook mentioned something I thought was interesting... They said something like "twenty years ago kids used to drive to high school with rifles in the back of their trucks - what changed?".

                                              It made me think.

                                              Twenty years ago kids used to go hunting with a rifle. Hunting was their hobby. While this is of course a hobby for a lot people, now there is a new hobby - the "gun enthusiast". This is someone who doesn't hunt or need a firearm for protection, but instead someone who likes firearms for all the wrong reasons. They think it's cool to have a firearm, because it makes them feel powerful. Hunters have rifles where as "gun enthusiasts" like to send 180 rounds per minute downrange.

                                              Big difference between the two.
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                                                • EonBlue
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by DBS.US
                                                  Just a question:
                                                  and then a crazy kid poured gasoline in the halls of a school, set it on fire, killing hundreds what would you say we do next?

                                                  You say guns are to easy to get, but a gas can filled with gas is easier to get.
                                                  Without guns the crazies would be trying to figure out how to build bombs. Most of them would probably fail, give up or blow themselves up.

                                                  But for the few that succeed.....

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                                                    • slapass
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                                                      • Nov 2002
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                      Someone on Facebook mentioned something I thought was interesting... They said something like "twenty years ago kids used to drive to high school with rifles in the back of their trucks - what changed?".

                                                      It made me think.

                                                      Twenty years ago kids used to go hunting with a rifle. Hunting was their hobby. While this is of course a hobby for a lot people, now there is a new hobby - the "gun enthusiast". This is someone who doesn't hunt or need a firearm for protection, but instead someone who likes firearms for all the wrong reasons. They think it's cool to have a firearm, because it makes them feel powerful. Hunters have rifles where as "gun enthusiasts" like to send 180 rounds per minute downrange.

                                                      Big difference between the two.
                                                      We are at a 50 some year low on murder. Turns out those gun toting pick up drivers killed people.

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                                                        • Bladewire
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                                                          • Aug 2003
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by slapass
                                                          We are at a 50 some year low on murder.
                                                          Aaaaaaah that makes more record death in high school & grade school shootings ok then great!





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                                                            • astronaut x
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                              Not to mention padlock the doors.. Did you know that that Cruz dude pulled the alarm and waited for everyone to run out? So much for those practice drills the feds were teaching them weeks prior.
                                                              Funny you mention the padlocks on the doors but didn't mention the padlocks on the valves.

                                                              Gun nuts like to go out gun nut style. They don't want alarms going off.

                                                              The fire threat has been dealt with. By guess what? Regulations.
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                                                                    • Paul Markham
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                      Mass shootings are a uniquely American the problem because our unique lack of gun regulations. Someday it will hit really really close to home for you in one way or another like the people in Florida and you'll get it. Until then you act like it's a hypothetical game of someone threatening to take away your toys.
                                                                      I agree wholeheartedly with the first part of this. The second part I don't agree with. The majority of Americans want better gun control. The NRA don't.



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                                                                        • NewNick
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                                                                          Ok OP so if you all turned your guns in then the “shooters” would turn to gasolene.

                                                                          So all around the world where the population isnt routinely packing heat guess what ?

                                                                          Yep - no mass School killings by gasolene.

                                                                          In fact no mass School killings by disaffected pupils by any other method whatsoever.

                                                                          Not sure that this is the answer you are looking for.

                                                                          Robbie said something very interesting - he said perhaps the time has come whereby the US population can no longer cope with the responsibility of completely unfettered access to guns.

                                                                          Maybe the cost is now so low in relation to disposable income, maybe the ease of access is just too easy, maybe the fucked up social media fame obsessed gangster culture is too toxic. It does not really matter - those kids are still dead.

                                                                          Maybe, maybe, it is time for a fresh look at the problem.

                                                                          How about no guns for crazies.

                                                                          How about no guns for under 21s.
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                                                                            • mhende6600
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                                                                                • Sarn
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by crucifissio
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                                                                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                      Originally posted by Sarn

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                                                                                            • blackmonsters
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by DBS.US
                                                                                              Just a question:
                                                                                              and then a crazy kid poured gasoline in the halls of a school, set it on fire, killing hundreds what would you say we do next?

                                                                                              You say guns are to easy to get, but a gas can filled with gas is easier to get.
                                                                                              School shooters spend weeks/months planning this shit.
                                                                                              That means they have plenty of time to devise a plan that doesn't need a gun.

                                                                                              Taking away all the guns might work if all the shootings were spontaneous; but that's not the case.

                                                                                              Guns aren't the only way to create mass violence; there are pipe bombs and pressure cookers.

                                                                                              Sprinklers : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHyx8n2P8BA

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                                                                                                • onwebcam
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by astronaut x
                                                                                                  Funny you mention the padlocks on the doors but didn't mention the padlocks on the valves.

                                                                                                  Gun nuts like to go out gun nut style. They don't want alarms going off.

                                                                                                  The fire threat has been dealt with. By guess what? Regulations.
                                                                                                  Those skinny little locks? Off in 30 seconds with a bolt cutter or a grinder. Hell I've cut completely though the "toughest" on the market (the actual lock part because thats the only way to cut them) with a battery operated grinder.
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                                                                                                    • tfto
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                      Someone on Facebook mentioned something I thought was interesting... They said something like "twenty years ago kids used to drive to high school with rifles in the back of their trucks - what changed?".

                                                                                                      It made me think.

                                                                                                      Twenty years ago kids used to go hunting with a rifle. Hunting was their hobby. While this is of course a hobby for a lot people, now there is a new hobby - the "gun enthusiast". This is someone who doesn't hunt or need a firearm for protection, but instead someone who likes firearms for all the wrong reasons. They think it's cool to have a firearm, because it makes them feel powerful. Hunters have rifles where as "gun enthusiasts" like to send 180 rounds per minute downrange.

                                                                                                      Big difference between the two.
                                                                                                      Rochard, Another part of this is video games and Hollywood movies. The violence in games and movies is by far, more than it was 20+ years ago. Almost everything in the games and movies are so life like now.

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                                                                                                        • DBS.US
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                                                                          Those skinny little locks? Off in 30 seconds with a bolt cutter or a grinder. Hell I've cut completely though the "toughest" on the market (the actual lock part because thats the only way to cut them) with a battery operated grinder.


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                                                                                                            • BaldBastard
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by tfto
                                                                                                              Rochard, Another part of this is video games and Hollywood movies. The violence in games and movies is by far, more than it was 20+ years ago. Almost everything in the games and movies are so life like now.
                                                                                                              You do realise that American movies play in other counties? If the problem was as simple as Hollywood, it would be replicated elsewhere.

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                                                                                                                • Sarn
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                  and they also have a foreign policy
                                                                                                                  Domestic policy now is even better and funny
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                                                                                                                    • blackmonsters
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tfto
                                                                                                                      Rochard, Another part of this is video games and Hollywood movies. The violence in games and movies is by far, more than it was 20+ years ago. Almost everything in the games and movies are so life like now.
                                                                                                                      Yeah, everybody should watch the evening news instead because there is no violence in it.

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                                                                                                                        • DBS.US
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                                                                                                          You do realise that American movies play in other counties? If the problem was as simple as Hollywood, it would be replicated elsewhere.
                                                                                                                          We have all the America movies but with Chinese subtitles so it never seems as real.
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                                                                                                                            • bronco67
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DBS.US
                                                                                                                              Just a question:
                                                                                                                              and then a crazy kid poured gasoline in the halls of a school, set it on fire, killing hundreds what would you say we do next?

                                                                                                                              You say guns are to easy to get, but a gas can filled with gas is easier to get.
                                                                                                                              Okay genius.

                                                                                                                              If you had to choose between gasoline or guns being outlawed, which would you choose to keep?

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                                                                                                                                • DBS.US
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                  Okay genius.

                                                                                                                                  If you had to choose between gasoline or guns being outlawed, which would you choose to keep?
                                                                                                                                  Well I would go with guns. I live in Hong Kong, I don't know anyone with a gun here, and we don't have school shooting.
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                                                                                                                                    • astronaut x
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DBS.US
                                                                                                                                      Well I would go with guns. I live in Hong Kong, I don't know anyone with a gun here, and we don't have school shooting.
                                                                                                                                      Do you have a violent epidemic of gasoline attacks in your schools?
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                                                                                                                                        • BaldBastard
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DBS.US
                                                                                                                                          We have all the America movies but with Chinese subtitles so it never seems as real.
                                                                                                                                          More gore in the average movie out of HongKong than USA :P

                                                                                                                                          Reality is though Hollywood movies play in numerous English speaking countries as cut in the USA, none of those countries have the same gun related murder issues the USA does.
                                                                                                                                          Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, United Kingdom, Canada.

                                                                                                                                          Hollywood is not the culprit with America's problems.

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                                                                                                                                            • BaldBastard
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by astronaut x
                                                                                                                                              Do you have a violent epidemic of gasoline attacks in your schools?
                                                                                                                                              No gasoline attacks here in Australia either. Someone intent on killing others could possibly get a gun, but getting a ak47 or the likes no way, we ban those. And while yes they are on the black market, not something the average joe could get, and many years in prison if your caught with it.

                                                                                                                                              If a hunter can't hit his prey with one shot.. he need's to go back to the practice range.

                                                                                                                                              "In NSW, using or possessing a firearm that you are not authorised to carries a maximum penalty of 5 years imprisonment. If its been used.. maximum penalty: imprisonment for 14 years."

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                                                                                                                                                  If using gasoline became the 'weapon' of choice, and it was happening every couple weeks like we have now with school shootings, we would have to make gasoline less abundant and easy to get and convert to electric cars ASAP.

                                                                                                                                                  Kids can kill with knives, too. But that's messier and requires up close action. Guns are the great equalizer. Pull the trigger and you're as powerful as any God. That's what these troubled kids want, after all. Respect, power, unlimited power to cause mass pain is what they seek.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      America has a serious culture problem where the gun is too easy to turn to for solving problems. Including one of continuing living and wanting to go out in a media blaze. Most of these mass school shooting end up with the perpetrator being a kid who shoots himself or gets shot by police.

                                                                                                                                                      The NRA side of the lobby says if more had guns to defend themselves it would be safer. That only goes down in America, in other countries it sounds stupid. That's how bad America culture is on this issue.



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                                                                                                                                                                • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DBS.US
                                                                                                                                                                  Well I would go with guns. I live in Hong Kong, I don't know anyone with a gun here, and we don't have school shooting.
                                                                                                                                                                  I just confirmed you're as dumb as I think you are. If you choose guns, how would you drive a car? Or how would anyone drive?

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                                                                                                                                                                    • DBS.US
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                                                      I just confirmed you're as dumb as I think you are. If you choose guns, how would you drive a car? Or how would anyone drive?
                                                                                                                                                                      I misread your post, Yes, we would have to outlaw guns.
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DBS.US
                                                                                                                                                                          I misread your post, Yes, we would have to outlaw guns.
                                                                                                                                                                          But....

                                                                                                                                                                          Do you have a violent epidemic of gasoline attacks in your schools?

                                                                                                                                                                          Answer the fucking question.

                                                                                                                                                                          Nevermind crickets.

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                                                                                                                                                                              Another 'law abiding' gun nut....


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