It's harder to shoot porn today than it was back in the old days.

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  • MsCheyenne
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2005
    • 412

    #1756
    Sounds like you have a good thing going. Yes, I am disgusted with the pirates who make more off of my content than I do!! I have hard a hard time finding visa merchants who will accept ClubDom content. I deal with ccbill, for the ease of affiliate programs and, C4S. Going direct has been difficult. We were actually told that we could not show a man having sex with a blow up sheep because it is bestiality. ClubDom's whippings have had to be majorly toned down. It is awesome that you have found a way to get around the nonsense that I have to put up with on line. If we have any cross over markets, maybe I could give you a plug to my membership bases. We do all aspects of FemDom, Cuckolding and, humiliation. We must refrain from g/s, heavy welts and, blow up sheep. My membership base is geared toward attractive women, pretty much of all ages. There isn't a cross over for obese women but, if you've got some smut you think would cross over, hit me up.

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    • notinmybackyard
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2012
      • 3230

      #1757
      Originally posted by MsCheyenne
      Sounds like you have a good thing going. Yes, I am disgusted with the pirates who make more off of my content than I do!! I have hard a hard time finding visa merchants who will accept ClubDom content. I deal with ccbill, for the ease of affiliate programs and, C4S. Going direct has been difficult. We were actually told that we could not show a man having sex with a blow up sheep because it is bestiality. ClubDom's whippings have had to be majorly toned down. It is awesome that you have found a way to get around the nonsense that I have to put up with on line. If we have any cross over markets, maybe I could give you a plug to my membership bases. We do all aspects of FemDom, Cuckolding and, humiliation. We must refrain from g/s, heavy welts and, blow up sheep. My membership base is geared toward attractive women, pretty much of all ages. There isn't a cross over for obese women but, if you've got some smut you think would cross over, hit me up.
      The last time I sold smut using a subscription model I got taken to the cleaners by the webdesigner. In addition to the money he also stole 2 years worth of productions.

      Never again...

      We're transitioning from DVDs to thumb drive value packages. We've also got the porn memorabilia sales that are going strong for the 4 year.
      officially retired as of March 01 2018 but still fucking around and getting into shit.

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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #1758
        Originally posted by notinmybackyard
        Nope I'm not joking.

        In today's porn market there are 2 ways to produce a product.

        1. Super high end production values bordering on being an indie film (eg. Love 2015) or being considered "Art."

        2. Super low end shit that's no better than a train wreck.

        Considering my age and that my grand kid is determined to distribute on thumb drives I don't see producing anything of quality within the remainder of my life.

        As for the morbidly obese women taking a shit... Tons and tons of people are curious about how someone that can't reach their ass manages to wipe it. All it's got to be is 20 mins per scene with 3 scenes on a thumb drive package. There won't even be any sex in it.

        I bet if an American flag was stuck up on the wall behind the toilet and french subtitles were put on the video it would sell an additional 1,200 pieces in France.
        I'll agree that your niche is easy to shoot. But hard to sell.



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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #1759
          Originally posted by MsCheyenne
          There is no doubt that money can be made with micro niche and, hard to shoot content. How can you get a cc merchant for things like obese women pooping? I shouldn't laugh but, I can only imagine how difficult that would be to shoot. Where do you find these obese women and, how do you know when can poo? I want to send you a trophy if you can pull this off...or maybe a crate of scented candles. ;-)
          He shoots it because he's into it.



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          • notinmybackyard
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2012
            • 3230

            #1760
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            He shoots it because he's into it.
            LOL I'm into Disney films.
            I honestly don't give a damn what's in the video. If it makes money I love it and if it doesn't I hate it.

            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            But hard to sell.
            No it's not.
            The French and Arabs just go crazy for this stuff. Good distribution is all that's needed
            officially retired as of March 01 2018 but still fucking around and getting into shit.

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            • Paul Markham
              Too old to care
              • Jun 2001
              • 52942

              #1761
              Originally posted by notinmybackyard
              LOL I'm into Disney films.
              I honestly don't give a damn what's in the video. If it makes money I love it and if it doesn't I hate it.
              There arebetter niches for making money.

              No it's not.
              The French and Arabs just go crazy for this stuff. Good distribution is all that's needed
              Good luck selling to Arabs, good luck getting billing.



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              • notinmybackyard
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2012
                • 3230

                #1762
                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                There arebetter niches for making money.



                Good luck selling to Arabs, good luck getting billing.
                I've been peddling smut to the European-Arabs since the 90s and I've had a smut deal into Algeria since 2013. As for billing I've been with RBC since the 70s.

                I make the occasional contact online and from time-to-time I get some decent information about how to solve a problem or confront a trend. (eg: I've found a thumb drive supplier and I'm buying bitcoins because of GFY) But there's more than one way to skin a cat and while far too many people in the jizz biz keep doing the same thing while bitching about dwindling profits in a market saturated with free smut... I've chosen to find distribution into different markets.
                officially retired as of March 01 2018 but still fucking around and getting into shit.

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                • Adultium
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 183

                  #1763
                  Now can shoot not super high end, if understand that for today, content is no longer the end product, and content and distribution is now a constant interconnected process.
                  Production became social. Communicating with the public and responding to their feedback became part of the production. If we admit that the film is not an author's statement, but is such dialogue with the public.

                  People on webcams are quite successful in earning money on streamcast. But this does not mean that the old content with the editing has died. Things that had catchy then, work and now. just search for these things is a joint activity together with your customers and dialogue with their is an important part of the content now.

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                  • deonbell
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 1045

                    #1764
                    Originally posted by Adultium
                    Now can shoot not super high end, if understand that for today, content is no longer the end product, and content and distribution is now a constant interconnected process.
                    Production became social. Communicating with the public and responding to their feedback became part of the production. If we admit that the film is not an author's statement, but is such dialogue with the public.

                    People on webcams are quite successful in earning money on streamcast. But this does not mean that the old content with the editing has died. Things that had catchy then, work and now. just search for these things is a joint activity together with your customers and dialogue with their is an important part of the content now.
                    This old thread, but yes.

                    Yes. Porn is free now. And very boring now. Only reason to open a porn site is if you have too much moneys to launder.

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                    • Adultium
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 183

                      #1765
                      Of course, now a lot of free porn. Therefore, need to accustom your customers to a dialogue with you by producing content at their request. If there is such a dialogue, then your customers would come to your site for updates, and will not search it on the network. Why would he do this, if he knows where exactly there is fresh content from his favorite producer?

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                      • INever
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 4029

                        #1766
                        I like the thumb drive idea.
                        I love Camdough

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #1767
                          Originally posted by Adultium
                          Of course, now a lot of free porn. Therefore, need to accustom your customers to a dialogue with you by producing content at their request. If there is such a dialogue, then your customers would come to your site for updates, and will not search it on the network. Why would he do this, if he knows where exactly there is fresh content from his favorite producer?
                          How can most people afford to have a conversation with what customers want, then produce enough of it and still make a profit?

                          Back in the old days, Suzie Randall produced one type of porn and those that liked it bought it. I produced another type of porn and those that liked it bought it. Today 99.5% of the people watching want free, so 99.5% choose free. That's 1 in every 200, so I'm very generous, we all know it's worse than that.



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                          • Adultium
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 183

                            #1768
                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            How can most people afford to have a conversation with what customers want, then produce enough of it and still make a profit?

                            Back in the old days, Suzie Randall produced one type of porn and those that liked it bought it. I produced another type of porn and those that liked it bought it. Today 99.5% of the people watching want free, so 99.5% choose free. That's 1 in every 200, so I'm very generous, we all know it's worse than that.

                            It is necessary to minimize the costs of maintaining the business, replacing all to platforms - hosting, distribution, billing, affiliate. As an excellent example patreon or manyvids.

                            Models communicate in social networks, write posts. They make stream on one service, and sell especially successful records with editing on other service and on the sly there decently begin to drip money.

                            As it was before will not be, and there is nothing bad in it. But most importantly, don't need to think that people are not willing to pay for porn. They are ready. Now people understand better what they need, so personal brands are sold more than faceless studios with faceless models. People are willing to pay to support someone they like. Of course, 1 in 200 will pay, but sorry, and 10 years ago the ratio of 1 to 1000 was considered quite good.
                            But social networks allow to have not 200 users, but 200 thousand. Mathematics is extrapolated directly to the scale.

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                            • celandina
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 11715

                              #1769
                              It is very simple... We shoot in Prague for over 10 years.... And it is NOW almost impossible now to get good looking young models or sexy MILFS... Now most are overly tattooed, botoxed or ugly Bimbos... With NO sex appeal....God help this industry..

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                              • celandina
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 11715

                                #1770
                                It is very simple... We shoot in Prague for over 10 years.... And it is almost impossible now to get good looking young models or sexy MILFS... Now most are overly tattooed, botoxed or ugly Bimbos... With NO sex appeal....God help this industry..

                                If a anybody disagrees ...? Bring it on !

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