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Originally Posted by Rochard
There are no hopes that Trump can stop this - meaning the charges against Papadopoulos and Manafort. This would mean Trump would need to pardon them before he is impeached, which is highly unlikely. Also, Papadopoulos has already put in a guilty plea (and has flipped).
They can try to discredit this as much as they want. This only plays to their base. Everything Nunes said in his so called "memo" is either already known or utterly fake. For example, Nunes claims in the FISA warrant it was not mentioned that the dossier came from a political source while the Democrats say it was. Who are you going to believe - A Congressman who has to recuse himself from the investigation because of his past actions and involvement with the Trump campaign, or a Democrat who is not under investigation?
I can't wait for this to be over. You know heads are going to roll no matter what. You know they are going through Trump's business deals and turning up all kinds of shit - You have to know this.
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Of course I know that they are finding all kinds of crimes in his finances and many are from a long history that should have been looked at 5-10 years ago.
More dirty money is harbored in the US than any other nation on earth.
There has been no desire or funding to go after it. many politicians seem to like the idea they hide the money here over other nations. Trump has been a tool for many Russian oligarchs to do just that. Go Figure.
But what I have been trying to convey is that trumps tactics are to discredit the intel of surveillance and open the possibility to throw it out.
Once you break a chain of evidence, following that, all intel that was found as a consequence of that now broken chain is thrown out.
It's a normal tactic in any defense.
I'm not saying it will be successful. But they will try because they have to.
The first step in that is to create justification in the public's eye so there is less backlash.
And to demean, belittle and demonize everyone in your way is the second part of it.
But POTUS has a lot of privilege and power that he might just be able to get away with this. I'm sure 'some' of his legal team thinks so. The Supreme Court will ultimately be called upon for many decisions on these matters.
There is plenty of other intel but I personally think that Manafort has told trump that if he makes it to trial, he will turn on him and make a deal. Hence the tremendous effort.
A pardon is a whole new problem for Mueller and the government depending on when it comes, if it does.
But a pardon does not break the chain of evidence and does not serve Trump or he may have done it already. So Manafort has forced the president's hand on this. But manafort has plenty of time to turn on trump as Mueller has delayed bringing this to trial. And I think that is helping him build a larger obstruction charge.
Congress has made it clear that the special counsel is staying.
This is what he has left. You just need to see the overall tactic for what it is.
It's really about breaking the chain of evidence to break the ties to trump himself.
None of his financial issues can be charged to him while he is sitting POTUS. You will have to wait for that.