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  • dillfly2000
    hey
    • Mar 2012
    • 2209

    #1

    Amateur site convert better

    Not sure why, but making sites that look like they were designed by children in 1998 convert better than professional modern day professional looking sites. With adult and my experience.

    Anyone one having similar progress?
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  • brassmonkey
    Pay It Forward
    • Sep 2005
    • 77384

    #2
    Originally posted by dillfly2000
    Not sure why, but making sites that look like they were designed by children in 1998 convert better than professional modern day professional looking sites. With adult and my experience.

    Anyone one having similar progress?
    well ok then
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    • Porko
      SeeMyBucks.com
      • Sep 2002
      • 4014

      #3
      Originally posted by dillfly2000
      Not sure why, but making sites that look like they were designed by children in 1998 convert better than professional modern day professional looking sites. With adult and my experience.

      Anyone one having similar progress?

      Welcome to 2006 man!

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      • brassmonkey
        Pay It Forward
        • Sep 2005
        • 77384

        #4
        Originally posted by Porko
        Welcome to 2006 man!
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        • celandina
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jun 2006
          • 11708

          #5
          Originally posted by dillfly2000
          Not sure why, but making sites that look like they were designed by children in 1998 convert better than professional modern day professional looking sites. With adult and my experience.

          Anyone one having similar progress?
          Just ask the MetArt folks

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          • NatalieK
            Natalie K
            • Apr 2010
            • 19825

            #6
            A possible thought to this, when looking at porn, the child inside comes out and the enjoyment of being free.

            An amateur site with bright colours, unprofessionally designed, probably gives the enchantment of curiousness & therefore if the porn is wankable, it will convert
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            • brassmonkey
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              • Sep 2005
              • 77384

              #7
              Originally posted by GspotProductions
              A possible thought to this, when looking at porn, the child inside comes out and the enjoyment of being free.

              An amateur site with bright colours, unprofessionally designed, probably gives the enchantment of curiousness & therefore if the porn is wankable, it will convert
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              • ilnjscb
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2009
                • 8957

                #8
                I think it is more people want real amateur content, and they don't want to realize they're being taken advantage of by a slick outfit

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                • GAMEFINEST
                  Make STACK$
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 14470

                  #9
                  Amateur always converts!
                  Compound interest.

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                  • The Porn Nerd
                    Living The Dream
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 19780

                    #10
                    It all comes down to the content matching the design. Amateur-looking sites do not do well with professional 4K content. And amateurs on slick-looking modern tours do not do as well either.

                    So you need to match the look of the content with the Tours.
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                    • Jman
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                      • Sep 2003
                      • 22830

                      #11
                      Amateur is a top notch niche
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                      • Holy Damage
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 996

                        #12
                        thehun doesnt seem to be going very well

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                        • CaptainHowdy
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 94012

                          #13
                          Mainstream porn has become a little bit stale ...

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                          • phil-flash
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                            • Apr 2003
                            • 650

                            #14
                            Post example amateur desing links. Please.


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                            • flashfire
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 13098

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dillfly2000
                              Not sure why, but making sites that look like they were designed by children in 1998 convert better than professional modern day professional looking sites. With adult and my experience.

                              Anyone one having similar progress?
                              Its true...I bought some old ass amateur sites that look terrible but convert awesome

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                              • LetterTwenty7
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                                • Feb 2015
                                • 1822

                                #16
                                I'm not an expert, but I do have experience when it comes to writing for many webmasters, and I've always had difficulties understanding why the design is so important in this industry. There are many extremely popular non-porn sites out there that don't even have any design, to put it that way, and they are still highly rated because of the content, so maybe it's similar here too.
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                                • rayadp05
                                  TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM
                                  • Nov 2005
                                  • 4175

                                  #17
                                  I've had my amateur pay site for 13 years now and I've never changed the design. The main reason why is because I am AFRAID to change it. The site does very well in terms of affiliate conversions, and it has been a FULL TIME income for me over the last 10 to 12 years. I've also had some VERY well known websites offer me a listing on their sites, if I changed my design. I just never have and I probably never will either. Besides, I really like the design of my site.

                                  It's always the same thing too, and I'm not complaining because I appreciate the compliments, but it usually goes something like this ....your content ROCKS DUDE, but your design looks like it was created in 2003. Well guess what? That's because the design WAS created in 2003! But my question is always the same ... is it really the design or the affiliate conversions that matter? If you ask me, I'd rather have a simple design and continue receiving sales throughout the day and evening hours, instead of having a KICK ASS design with NO conversions. I also believe that the design should match the content residing in the members area.

                                  The CONTENT is what really entices a potential customer to sign up. It's like going into the movie rental stores back in the day. I think that we can all relate to the fact that just because a movie has an AWESOME DVD cover, doesn't necessarily mean that the movie is going to be a great movie. Right?

                                  So yeah, I completely agree with the OP of this thread. I mean, if you run a glamour modeling website, or something similar to that, then have a fancy looking and slick design created for you. You could even have the designer make animations, along with various shit bouncing around and shooting towards you on the screen ....but for me, I just don't think all of that is necessary when you're running an amateur site and shooting you own content that already converts well.

                                  Anyway, that's just my

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                                  • blackmonsters
                                    Making PHP work
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 20990

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by rayadp05
                                    I've had my amateur pay site for 13 years now and I've never changed the design. The main reason why is because I am AFRAID to change it. The site does very well in terms of affiliate conversions, and it has been a FULL TIME income for me over the last 10 to 12 years. I've also had some VERY well known websites offer me a listing on their sites, if I changed my design. I just never have and I probably never will either. Besides, I really like the design of my site.

                                    It's always the same thing too, and I'm not complaining because I appreciate the compliments, but it usually goes something like this ....your content ROCKS DUDE, but your design looks like it was created in 2003. Well guess what? That's because the design WAS created in 2003! But my question is always the same ... is it really the design or the affiliate conversions that matter? If you ask me, I'd rather have a simple design and continue receiving sales throughout the day and evening hours, instead of having a KICK ASS design with NO conversions. I also believe that the design should match the content residing in the members area.

                                    The CONTENT is what really entices a potential customer to sign up. It's like going into the movie rental stores back in the day. I think that we can all relate to the fact that just because a movie has an AWESOME DVD cover, doesn't necessarily mean that the movie is going to be a great movie. Right?

                                    So yeah, I completely agree with the OP of this thread. I mean, if you run a glamour modeling website, or something similar to that, then have a fancy looking and slick design created for you. You could even have the designer make animations, along with various shit bouncing around and shooting towards you on the screen ....but for me, I just don't think all of that is necessary when you're running an amateur site and shooting you own content that already converts well.

                                    Anyway, that's just my

                                    I think your site would convert the same with an updated design.
                                    It's the "true amateur" name matching the content that makes it convert.

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                                    • SpicyM
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 4575

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                      I've had my amateur pay site for 13 years now and I've never changed the design. The main reason why is because I am AFRAID to change it. The site does very well in terms of affiliate conversions, and it has been a FULL TIME income for me over the last 10 to 12 years. I've also had some VERY well known websites offer me a listing on their sites, if I changed my design. I just never have and I probably never will either. Besides, I really like the design of my site.

                                      It's always the same thing too, and I'm not complaining because I appreciate the compliments, but it usually goes something like this ....your content ROCKS DUDE, but your design looks like it was created in 2003. Well guess what? That's because the design WAS created in 2003! But my question is always the same ... is it really the design or the affiliate conversions that matter? If you ask me, I'd rather have a simple design and continue receiving sales throughout the day and evening hours, instead of having a KICK ASS design with NO conversions. I also believe that the design should match the content residing in the members area.

                                      The CONTENT is what really entices a potential customer to sign up. It's like going into the movie rental stores back in the day. I think that we can all relate to the fact that just because a movie has an AWESOME DVD cover, doesn't necessarily mean that the movie is going to be a great movie. Right?

                                      So yeah, I completely agree with the OP of this thread. I mean, if you run a glamour modeling website, or something similar to that, then have a fancy looking and slick design created for you. You could even have the designer make animations, along with various shit bouncing around and shooting towards you on the screen ....but for me, I just don't think all of that is necessary when you're running an amateur site and shooting you own content that already converts well.

                                      Anyway, that's just my

                                      I see it's just html, do you update it manually all the time?
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                                      • blackmonsters
                                        Making PHP work
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 20990

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                                        I've had my amateur pay site for 13 years now and I've never changed the design. The main reason why is because I am AFRAID to change it. The site does very well in terms of affiliate conversions, and it has been a FULL TIME income for me over the last 10 to 12 years. I've also had some VERY well known websites offer me a listing on their sites, if I changed my design. I just never have and I probably never will either. Besides, I really like the design of my site.

                                        It's always the same thing too, and I'm not complaining because I appreciate the compliments, but it usually goes something like this ....your content ROCKS DUDE, but your design looks like it was created in 2003. Well guess what? That's because the design WAS created in 2003! But my question is always the same ... is it really the design or the affiliate conversions that matter? If you ask me, I'd rather have a simple design and continue receiving sales throughout the day and evening hours, instead of having a KICK ASS design with NO conversions. I also believe that the design should match the content residing in the members area.

                                        The CONTENT is what really entices a potential customer to sign up. It's like going into the movie rental stores back in the day. I think that we can all relate to the fact that just because a movie has an AWESOME DVD cover, doesn't necessarily mean that the movie is going to be a great movie. Right?

                                        So yeah, I completely agree with the OP of this thread. I mean, if you run a glamour modeling website, or something similar to that, then have a fancy looking and slick design created for you. You could even have the designer make animations, along with various shit bouncing around and shooting towards you on the screen ....but for me, I just don't think all of that is necessary when you're running an amateur site and shooting you own content that already converts well.

                                        Anyway, that's just my
                                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                        I think your site would convert the same with an updated design.
                                        It's the "true amateur" name matching the content that makes it convert.

                                        I like the site on my phone.

                                        I wouldn't redesign your site either.

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                                        • NALEM
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2010
                                          • 3165

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dillfly2000
                                          Not sure why, but making sites that look like they were designed by children in 1998 convert better than professional modern day professional looking sites. With adult and my experience.

                                          Anyone one having similar progress?
                                          Originally posted by ilnjscb
                                          I think it is more people want real amateur content, and they don't want to realize they're being taken advantage of by a slick outfit
                                          Long term/repeat clients/members live in a fantasy world. They want to believe that the model herself is responsible for almost everything, and that she is opening up her personal diary (photo journal) to them, giving them the opportunity to peek inside in exchange for some regular donation.
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                                          • OneHungLo
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • May 2001
                                            • 40902

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                            A possible thought to this, when looking at porn, the child inside comes out and the enjoyment of being free.

                                            An amateur site with bright colours, unprofessionally designed, probably gives the enchantment of curiousness & therefore if the porn is wankable, it will convert
                                            What in the actual fuck?

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                                            • rayadp05
                                              TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM
                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 4175

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SpicyM
                                              I see it's just html, do you update it manually all the time?
                                              I use Elevated-X for the members area and CCBill for the payment processor, as well as for the affiliate program. I could use Elevated-X to give the tour pages a re-design, but I just don't know if I want to do that or not. I mean, why try to fix something that's not broken? But sure, a re-design through Elevated-X that wouldn't change the current look too much ...I think would be okay.

                                              I've always kept the members area updated every week and I've never missed one single week. This also has a lot to do with the re-bills being so steady. And obviously, the affiliates are paid on the re-bills too. Hell, I have some members that have been active members for several years. It's all about giving the members what they want ....and giving them what they want on an ongoing basis. You always want to keep them guessing ....which model (or perhaps a BRAND NEW model) will be coming up for the next update?

                                              This gives them a reason to stay active members. Obviously, there are other things that can be done in order to retain members, but that's the most important, if you ask me ....keeping the site updated with new and fresh content, and on a regular basis.

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                                              • EliteWebmaster
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2010
                                                • 3994

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                I use Elevated-X for the members area and CCBill for the payment processor, as well as for the affiliate program. I could use Elevated-X to give the tour pages a re-design, but I just don't know if I want to do that or not. I mean, why try to fix something that's not broken? But sure, a re-design through Elevated-X that wouldn't change the current look too much ...I think would be okay.

                                                I've always kept the members area updated every week and I've never missed one single week. This also has a lot to do with the re-bills being so steady. And obviously, the affiliates are paid on the re-bills too. Hell, I have some members that have been active members for several years. It's all about giving the members what they want ....and giving them what they want on an ongoing basis. You always want to keep them guessing ....which model (or perhaps a BRAND NEW model) will be coming up for the next update?

                                                This gives them a reason to stay active members. Obviously, there are other things that can be done in order to retain members, but that's the most important, if you ask me ....keeping the site updated with new and fresh content, and on a regular basis.
                                                Site updating is the key. It's good that you never miss an update. Just curious how much do you pay your model per shoot? Or do you scale the pay based on if she does more or less? I assume it's not full hardcore but more ass spreading and masturbation with some hj's and bjs?

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                                                • bronco67
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                  • 29026

                                                  #25
                                                  I'm not a pay site subscriber and never have been, but if I did ever find a site to subscribe to -- it would have absolutely nothing to do with how the site is designed. Does the content give me a boner? That's the only question I would ask.

                                                  But I have some thoughts on this....If someone sees a big, fancy paysite and wants some of the content they can go find it with a google search on one of the tube sites.

                                                  If someone sees content on an amateur site that's appealing, most likely the only option is to sign up for the site. Also, maybe there's the idea in the back of a prospective customer's mind that the big guys don't need the money, but the little guy does.

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                                                  • dillfly2000
                                                    hey
                                                    • Mar 2012
                                                    • 2209

                                                    #26
                                                    I was really drunk when I made this thread. FYI
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