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  • sperbonzo
    I'd rather be on my boat.
    • May 2003
    • 9750

    #1

    Someone stole $25k from us... need suggestions or help

    It's a design company, and that's all I'm going to say, but anyone have any suggestions? They are UK based.




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  • LauraLee
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    • Sep 2003
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    #2
    That is shitty to hear Michael.

    Bump for you in finding some recourse.

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    • Sam Granger
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      • Dec 2004
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      #3
      Lawyer time. Sorry to hear what happened. But how did they do that? Big project? Coding too?

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      • sperbonzo
        I'd rather be on my boat.
        • May 2003
        • 9750

        #4
        Basically, do you have any expertise as to how to get back at them? I would welcome and pay for help with this.



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        • DutchTeenCash
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          • Feb 2003
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          #5
          IF thats true get your lawyer to send a nice letter to them

          posting here doesnt help shit

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          • ro8in
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            • Sep 2006
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            #6
            Originally posted by DutchTeenCash
            IF thats true get your lawyer to send a nice letter to them

            posting here doesnt help shit
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            • DarkJedi
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              • Feb 2001
              • 28301

              #7
              posting the company name / url would be a start

              how did they stole from you? you paid 25k in advance (LOL?) and they didn't deliver?

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              • nation-x
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                • Mar 2004
                • 5370

                #8
                Holy Crap! $25k must have been one helluva design order.

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                • DutchTeenCash
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 21684

                  #9
                  Im thinkin non disclosure that went wrong aka alike the Facebook deal?

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                  • HorseShit
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                    • Dec 2004
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                    #10
                    good luck

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                    • sperbonzo
                      I'd rather be on my boat.
                      • May 2003
                      • 9750

                      #11
                      Unfortunately, It was really our fault. I had hired them to do a job for $4k about in Oct 08. They really didn't do the job, but whatever. Unfortunately I have had the experience before of paying up front for work that doesn't get done.

                      In any case, about a month later, I was wiring $25k to a processor in the EU. I was rushed as I was leaving that day for a show and I grabbed the wrong template. The money was sent instead to this design firm. I didn't realize it until several days later.

                      When we contacted them they promised to send the money back. They still haven't up to now.

                      I don't think that lawyers will be much help here... I need more underhanded and painful ways to get to these guys.


                      Anyone?



                      p.s. Go ahead and call me an idiot, I call myself one all the time about this.

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                      • DarkJedi
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                        • Feb 2001
                        • 28301

                        #12
                        contact the bank and ask them to reverse the transfer.

                        stuff like this happens, if you are with a decent bank, they should help

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                        • bloggerz
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                          • Dec 2006
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by sperbonzo
                          I was rushed as I was leaving that day for a show and I grabbed the wrong template. The money was sent instead to this design firm. I didn't realize it until several days later.
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                          • ro8in
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by sperbonzo
                            Unfortunately, It was really our fault. I had hired them to do a job for $4k about in Oct 08. They really didn't do the job, but whatever. Unfortunately I have had the experience before of paying up front for work that doesn't get done.

                            In any case, about a month later, I was wiring $25k to a processor in the EU. I was rushed as I was leaving that day for a show and I grabbed the wrong template. The money was sent instead to this design firm. I didn't realize it until several days later.

                            When we contacted them they promised to send the money back. They still haven't up to now.

                            I don't think that lawyers will be much help here... I need more underhanded and painful ways to get to these guys.


                            Anyone?



                            p.s. Go ahead and call me an idiot, I call myself one all the time about this.

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                            • Fletch XXX
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                              • Jan 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by sperbonzo
                              Unfortunately, It was really our fault. I had hired them to do a job for $4k about in Oct 08. They really didn't do the job, but whatever. Unfortunately I have had the experience before of paying up front for work that doesn't get done.

                              In any case, about a month later, I was wiring $25k to a processor in the EU. I was rushed as I was leaving that day for a show and I grabbed the wrong template. The money was sent instead to this design firm. I didn't realize it until several days later.

                              When we contacted them they promised to send the money back. They still haven't up to now.

                              I don't think that lawyers will be much help here... I need more underhanded and painful ways to get to these guys.


                              Anyone?



                              p.s. Go ahead and call me an idiot, I call myself one all the time about this.

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                              i wont call you an idiot, but i bet you take your time sending money from now on, ouchie.

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                              • Sam Granger
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                                #16
                                Ouch, thats got to suck! Mistakes happen, hope your bank will be able to help you out further. But back from November? Good luck, hope you're able to get it sorted

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                                • sperbonzo
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                                  • May 2003
                                  • 9750

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                  contact the bank and ask them to reverse the transfer.

                                  stuff like this happens, if you are with a decent bank, they should help
                                  unfortunately, that only works in the first 24 hours of the transfer.



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                                  • thunder99
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                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 503

                                    #18
                                    Are they a registered business in the UK? If so write a letter and send it registered post to their registered office.

                                    Give them a week or two to respond, if they don't get a UK lawyer to write to them.

                                    Be polite, but firm.... you did make the mistake, but I'm pretty sure they do have to return the money once the mistake has been pointed out to them. Might be an idea to offer them 1k or something to cover their bank fee's and time.

                                    Another option might be to sell the debt, don't know much about that but might be worth looking into.
                                    yeah, yeah

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                                    • sperbonzo
                                      I'd rather be on my boat.
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 9750

                                      #19
                                      If anyone knows any wicked ways to get back at these guys, PLEASE CONTACT ME!!!




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                                      • kmanrox
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                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 29295

                                        #20
                                        aren't you the tool who hacked your employee's ICQ account, chatted with me like you were her trying to find out if she was doing side jobs behind your back or something? you're a fucking paranoid idiot and yet you allow something like this to happen?
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                                        • DarkJedi
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                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 28301

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                          unfortunately, that only works in the first 24 hours of the transfer.



                                          .
                                          Then, if they refuse to give the money back on their own, you're pretty much fucked.



                                          Last edited by DarkJedi; 03-11-2009, 06:49 AM.

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                                          • ro8in
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                                            • Sep 2006
                                            • 1542

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                            unfortunately, that only works in the first 24 hours of the transfer.



                                            .
                                            I can send you now a million dollars by mistake and can still claim it back 10 years later.
                                            If you do not have a contract with me and cannot proof in anyway i should be paying you this money your stealin it simple!

                                            I know what kind of help your aiming for but I think your acting too fast...

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                                            • DutchTeenCash
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                                              • Feb 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                              contact the bank and ask them to reverse the transfer.

                                              stuff like this happens, if you are with a decent bank, they should help
                                              exactly

                                              why wait, call your bank manager explain and if the designer says fuck you issue a court order to have their account frozen

                                              seriously this cannot be true or youre way way too laid back

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                                              • Antonio
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                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 14136

                                                #24
                                                Looks like you're feeding us some bullcrap, you sent the money by wire? Well, tehn call your bank to call their bank, then not call the police in the UK, if you have to call your police as well, how fucking difficult is that?

                                                What do you think the GFYers are going to help with?

                                                Oh, shit, I get it - you want ME to collect for you? No problem, for %10 I'll shoot them with my laser mouse and get your cash back.

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                                                • ro8in
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                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                  • 1542

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Antonio
                                                  Looks like you're feeding us some bullcrap, you sent the money by wire? Well, tehn call your bank to call their bank, then not call the police in the UK, if you have to call your police as well, how fucking difficult is that?

                                                  What do you think the GFYers are going to help with?

                                                  Oh, shit, I get it - you want ME to collect for you? No problem, for %10 I'll shoot them with my laser mouse and get your cash back.
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                                                  We are in adult so that must mean we are all hardcore maffia who have always a guy for this kinda things... so he hopes
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                                                  • The Judge
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                                                    • Jan 2006
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                                                    #26
                                                    Call 1-800-HORSEHEAD

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                                                    • count of monte cristo
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                                                      • Sep 2004
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                                                      #27
                                                      this was 4 months ago? the money is spent, it hasnt been sitting there waiting for you

                                                      sorry to have to say that
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                                                      • JamesK
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                                                        • Jun 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        They probably spent it on crack & whores already. You're fucked.
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                                                        • kmanrox
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                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 29295

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JamesK
                                                          They probably spent it on crack & whores already. You're fucked.
                                                          well duh, isnt that what we all spend our money on???
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                                                          • kmanrox
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                                                            • Oct 2001
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                                                            #30
                                                            lol @ 'financialgroup' in sperbonker's address



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                                                            • ro8in
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                              lol @ 'financialgroup' in sperbonker's address



                                                              ironic
                                                              hehehe now i realise that must be some financial group sending 25k to the wrong person LOL
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                                                              • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 21684

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                                lol @ 'financialgroup' in sperbonker's address



                                                                ironic
                                                                hmm saw that too

                                                                cant get any more faker

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                                                                • John.
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Why are you only interested in a "wicked" method of trying to get your money back?
                                                                  Sig too old.

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                                                                  • JFK
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                                                                    • Jan 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                    If anyone knows any wicked ways to get back at these guys, PLEASE CONTACT ME!!!




                                                                    .
                                                                    posting shit like this does not help matters at all.

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                                                                    • GonZo
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                      I don't think that lawyers will be much help here... I need more underhanded and painful ways to get to these guys.
                                                                      Now thats the type of talk I want to see coming from someone that represents a processing company...
                                                                      Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!
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                                                                      • ro8in
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by GonZo
                                                                        Now thats the type of talk I want to see coming from someone that represents a processing company...
                                                                        This thread is turning into a fail im in for entertainment
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                                                                        • Kenny B!
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                                                                          That really sucks, sorry to hear it Michael hope you get your coin back.
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                                                                          • DK
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                                                                            • Forest
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by JFK
                                                                              posting shit like this does not help matters at all.
                                                                              and this surprises you because?

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                                                                              • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                                • Feb 2003
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                                                                                #40

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                                                                                • JFK
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Forest
                                                                                  and this surprises you because?
                                                                                  is it the air in FLA ?

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                                                                                  • sperbonzo
                                                                                    I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 9750

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Our merchants and processors are all still getting paid on time, nothing was missed. I have contacted the banks on both ends and have been told that there is nothing that can be done.

                                                                                    You guys apparently took this the wrong way. I wasn't talking about anything physical, or illegal. I was talking about trying to find some way to at least be annoying to these fuckers. In the end I will probably have to go to their offices the next time I'm over there and make a stink, but in the meantime I was looking for suggestions for ways to be a pain in their asses.





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                                                                                    Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

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                                                                                    • Forest
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                                                                                      • Aug 2001
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                      is it the air in FLA ?
                                                                                      it must be the offshore breeze today ;)

                                                                                      is it warming up in the tundra yet?

                                                                                      im waiting for pictures of the fish in the stream. Then Ill know spring has arrived =)

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                                                                                      • atom
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        this thread is amusing on many levels.
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                                                                                        • GonZo
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                          Our merchants and processors are all still getting paid on time, nothing was missed. I have contacted the banks on both ends and have been told that there is nothing that can be done.

                                                                                          You guys apparently took this the wrong way. I wasn't talking about anything physical, or illegal. I was talking about trying to find some way to at least be annoying to these fuckers. In the end I will probably have to go to their offices the next time I'm over there and make a stink, but in the meantime I was looking for suggestions for ways to be a pain in their asses.





                                                                                          .

                                                                                          "I need more underhanded and painful ways to get to these guys."
                                                                                          Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!
                                                                                          "I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
                                                                                          All the information above is my personal opinion.

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                                                                                          • BradM
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Let me know if I can give you my wire details to put on a template. Thanks.

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                                                                                            • ro8in
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                              You guys apparently took this the wrong way. I wasn't talking about anything physical, or illegal.

                                                                                              I need more underhanded and painful ways to get to these guys.
                                                                                              Ah we thought u was looking for painfull underhanded ways to get to these guys.

                                                                                              Sorry for taking it wrong carry on.
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                                                                                              • Quagmire
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by John.
                                                                                                Why are you only interested in a "wicked" method of trying to get your money back?
                                                                                                That is actually the same thing I am wondering.

                                                                                                Methinks there is more to this story than what is being told.

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                                                                                                • sperbonzo
                                                                                                  I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 9750

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by ro8in
                                                                                                  Ah we thought u was looking for painfull underhanded ways to get to these guys.

                                                                                                  Sorry for taking it wrong carry on.

                                                                                                  LOL!!! Ok, ok! I was in a grumpy mood this morning when yet another time they told me that they would send it and they haven't.



                                                                                                  I'm guilty of being a bad mood this morning.




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                                                                                                  • Forest
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by ro8in
                                                                                                    Ah we thought u was looking for painfull underhanded ways to get to these guys.

                                                                                                    Sorry for taking it wrong carry on.
                                                                                                    you didnt read it wrong

                                                                                                    "I don't think that lawyers will be much help here... I need more underhanded and painful ways to get to these guys."

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