Does he have there a videosz whitelabel or something?
Can you promote those who process with regular billers with scat videos?
Same question would have to apply to those, who are accepting warez traffic, how about to try to pull down the processing for their sponsors?
We need to find a way how to solve this, I'm an experienced consigliere and I'll give it some thought, there's gotta be a loophole how to put those fuckers down.
I won't post the link but go there and search "shitfest".
This industry couldn't be going to hell any faster than it is now.
us old school guys don't get it, but scat is no big deal anymore...... every high school kid in the country has watched 2girls1cup already and that kind of stuff isn't shocking anymore
lol, that just reminded me of that great Janes Addiction song
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Does he have there a videosz whitelabel or something?
Can you promote those who process with regular billers with scat videos?
Same question would have to apply to those, who are accepting warez traffic, how about to try to pull down the processing for their sponsors?
We need to find a way how to solve this, I'm an experienced consigliere and I'll give it some thought, there's gotta be a loophole how to put those fuckers down.
If you can figure it out Carlos, have a crack at 'em.
We know that the tubes are serving everything for free, including 49 min. length scat videos....surfer clicks, looks and comes, no money money for the affiliates anymore...
I just sent a message to ICE...NO FUCKING TOLERANCE TO IDIOTS IN A SENSIBLE THREAD!
Relax dude, take a breath and step away from the keyboard. Your emotional rage towards tube sites should be directed at those tube sites not at random nicknames on GFY.
There is going to be a time when shit will have to change. Someone will start coming down on these tube sites, warez forums and torrents; no matter where the fuck in the world it might be hosted. These thieves are easily traceable as they shameless advertise and make money off providing content they have no fucking right to distribute. It's gotten way out of control, the music, porn/movie industry is getting HAMMERED; and it continues to get worse everyday as more & more people are learning about these shady sites and services.
IMO, everyone needs to be held accountable. People who host and advertise on these sites should be charged with conspiracy to distribute copyrighted materials. No fucking exceptions.
I ran into links on megavideo of countless HQ screeners of movies still in the theaters with 100s of thousands of views.
There is going to be a time when shit will have to change. Someone will start coming down on these tube sites, warez forums and torrents; no matter where the fuck in the world it might be hosted. These thieves are easily traceable as they shameless advertise and make money off providing content they have no fucking right to distribute. It's gotten way out of control, the music, porn/movie industry is getting HAMMERED; and it continues to get worse everyday as more & more people are learning about these shady sites and services.
IMO, everyone needs to be held accountable. People who host and advertise on these sites should be charged with conspiracy to distribute copyrighted materials. No fucking exceptions.
I ran into links on megavideo of countless HQ screeners of movies still in the theaters with 100s of thousands of views.
But if you start talking about regulation most here will scream the Internet should be unregulated. I'm for regulation and not scared of it. They regulate what's in magazines, TV, cinema and radio.
There is going to be a time when shit will have to change. Someone will start coming down on these tube sites, warez forums and torrents; no matter where the fuck in the world it might be hosted.
I'd suggest to start with Google's YouTube. It's a biggiest tube site which has a shitload of copirighted content. All other tube sites are just small cockroaches comparing to it. And also don't forget about Google Images - there is a huge field for a serious legal battle
But if you start talking about regulation most here will scream the Internet should be unregulated. I'm for regulation and not scared of it. They regulate what's in magazines, TV, cinema and radio.
Yes to a certain extend the internet should be unregulated, we should be able to view any site we want, (I don't believe in "net neutrality" or traffic filtering). However, laws need to be more strict & regulated worldwide, and those who run & support deliberate illegal sites need to face serious consequences. When people are sent to prison it will change the mindset of a lot of companies out there, without as much financial support from advertisers, resources and the threat of real jail time, these huge tube and file sharing sites will fall on their faces fast. No it won't stop copyrighted material from being distributed completely, but even cutting it in half will be a giant step.
Originally posted by cyberxxx
I'd suggest to start with Google's YouTube. It's a biggiest tube site which has a shitload of copirighted content. All other tube sites are just small cockroaches comparing to it. And also don't forget about Google Images - there is a huge field for a serious legal battle
Youtube enforces copyright laws though, you don't see content with a complaining copyright owner up for more than a couple days. These other adult tube sites and warez forums exist for the sole purpose of displaying stolen copyrighted content and they don't give a shit. They casually claim they're not responsible for what's hosted/posted on their sites, the advertisers say they are not held accountable for the sites their ads are displayed on and the webhosts say they're not liable . I'm saying fuck all of them, they all need to be held accountable and charged with some sort of "conspiracy to distribute copyrighted material crime".
The war on piracy is like the war on drugs, expensive and ultimately counter-productive. We face the same problems as the music and the movie industry, their hard line approach hasnt worked either. The only thing that works is embracing the new formats and accepting the individual value of your product will become lesser but your base will become broader. Surely most of you know this?
The war on piracy is like the war on drugs, expensive and ultimately counter-productive. We face the same problems as the music and the movie industry, their hard line approach hasnt worked either. The only thing that works is embracing the new formats and accepting the individual value of your product will become lesser but your base will become broader. Surely most of you know this?
I agree that the music and movie industry hasn't accomplished much to stop piracy. There aren't enough laws enforced against torrent sites, file sharing sites and tube sites to help them protect their copyrights though. They're having a tough time holding anyone liable, and dragging them into court has become a waste of time. I think in the next 3-4 years the laws will change to adapt to what the internet has become, and a lot more people will be liable for what they've been getting away with all this time. This includes hosts, advertisers, unregulated tube site owners, creators of torrent software, warez forum owners, etc.
BTW, large drug cartels and dealers aren't traceable companies and entities that make millions of dollars legally committing crimes. I don't see how enforcing more laws on the methods of pirated content being distributed is counter productive.
As piracy becomes more accepted and used by the average user, the value of your individual product go down, and it's getting worse and worse every year by a very large margin. These illegal sites get more traffic than some very large corporations out there.
As a matter of opinion I think piracy will soon become counter productive to the end-user if something doesn't change. Music labels won't sign as many artists, movies will have smaller budgets and less exclusive porn will be released and/or not available for download, (maybe a new DRM system, or flashing streams will be the future).
I don't see how enforcing more laws on the methods of pirated content being distributed is counter productive.
Yes because killing Napster was the end of most file sharing.
Originally posted by NetHorse
As piracy becomes more accepted and used by the average user, so does the value of your product, and it's getting worse and worse every year by a very large margin.
Have you ever wondered WHY piracy blossoms regardless of your efforts? Maybe your product is overpriced? Log in to your average "legal" porn membership area. Its a fucking joke.
Originally posted by NetHorse
As a matter of opinion I think piracy will soon become counter productive to the end-user if something doesn't change. Music labels won't sign as many artists, movies will have smaller budgets and less exclusive porn will be released and/or not available for download, (maybe a new DRM system, or flashing streams will be the future).
And Internet TV shows, indy music, amateur porn, and internet celebrities will fill the void left by those dinosaurs. Just ask print publications. Maybe you should take off those rose colored glasses.
Yes because killing Napster was the end of most file sharing.
Who is talking about the end of file sharing? I am talking about reducing it, not sitting back and letting it blossom out of control.
Have you ever wondered WHY piracy blossoms regardless of your efforts? Maybe your product is overpriced? Log in to your average "legal" porn membership area. Its a fucking joke.
So if a DVD is overpriced at a video store that gives you the right to steal it? The price of those "legal" porn sites are to keep it a viable & profitable business. I don't know about you, but I make a living off those "overpriced products". If you can't afford it, then you don't fucking deserve to own it. Sit your broke ass down and jerk it to a blurry amateur clip of a girl with saggy tits and a fat ass.
And Internet TV shows, indy music, amateur porn, and internet celebrities will fill the void left by those dinosaurs. Just ask print publications. Maybe you should take off those rose colored glasses.
Well in that case there goes one of the LARGEST industries in our country. You must be an Obama supporter hoping for a larger welfare check this year. Let me take off those rose colored glasses for ya. Free indy music, free porn, "internet celebrities, (LOL) and internet TV shows. That's the future folks. The entertainment industry is a "dinosaur" and no longer about making money, it's now about pleasing cheap broke asses who don't want to pay for anything.
I won't post the link but go there and search "shitfest".
This industry couldn't be going to hell any faster than it is now.
Why would you be surprised? It's the guy that owns 3pic.com and porn365.com.. He also owns a farm sex tube with dogs fucking people. The dude is sick in the head.
Who is talking about the end of file sharing? I am talking about reducing it, not sitting back and letting it blossom out of control.
I dont know what internet world you live in but it IS out of control.
Originally posted by NetHorse
So if a DVD is overpriced at a video store that gives you the right to steal it? The price of those "legal" porn sites are to keep it a viable & profitable business. I don't know about you, but I make a living off those "overpriced products". If you can't afford it, then you don't fucking deserve to own it. Sit your broke ass down and jerk it to a blurry amateur clip of a girl with saggy tits and a fat ass.
Actually you guys will be the ones broke eventually, not those people who pirate.
Originally posted by NetHorse
Well in that case there goes one of the LARGEST industries in our country. You must be an Obama supporter hoping for a larger welfare check this year. Let me take off those rose colored glasses for ya. Free indy music, free porn, "internet celebrities, (LOL) and internet TV shows. That's the future folks. The entertainment industry is a "dinosaur" and no longer about making money, it's now about pleasing cheap broke asses who don't want to pay for anything.
You sound just like the music and movie industry executives, so filled with anger that you cant adapt to a changed market.
Bottom line, you cant "control" piracy, for netizens piracy is mainstream and always will be. Go ahead and get your e-rage on NetHorse. It wont stop your problems. The answer is so simple youll shit when you see it.
if i had a program i would be focusing on building the cams and dating side. paysites have a couple years of profitability left so i would put my energy into a replacement revenue stream now. when the loss outweighs the profit on the paysites, i would park them until such a day came that regulation on the tubes etc. was in place to breathe life back into the sites.
I dont know what internet world you live in but it IS out of control.
That doesn't mean it can't be controlled better in the future.
Actually you guys will be the ones broke eventually, not those people who pirate.
Really? When everything is free, exactly who is going to want to advertise on these pirated sites? When you help drag down an industry that you're apart of, (weather you're doing it legally or illegally) you also hurt yourself..
You sound just like the music and movie industry executives, so filled with anger that you cant adapt to a changed market. It wont stop your problems. The answer is so simple youll shit when you see it.
I sound like someone who makes a living on the internet legally. I sound like someone who wants to get paid for the work I do. I don't have problems that need to be solved, I am not personally going after the thieves that don't believe people should be paid for their work. Thanks for your concern though.
Bottom line, you cant "control" piracy, for netizens piracy is mainstream and always will be.
I don't have to control piracy, I am saying something will change and it will be controlled for us. Weather that is a good or bad thing who knows. The reason it will change is because of your very mindset on piracy being mainstream for the "netizens". Congress, the large telecommunication giants and billion dollar corporations have a lot more power than you may think.
The reason it will change is because of your very mindset on piracy being mainstream for the "netizens". Congress, the large telecommunication giants and billion dollar corporations have a lot more power than you may think.
Congress cant enforce the copyright laws now, what makes you think they will in ten years? As is evident by the persistent onslaught of piracy websites, file repositories and file sharing destinations.
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Congress cant enforce the copyright laws now, what makes you think they will in ten years? As is evident by the persistent onslaught of piracy websites, file repositories and file sharing destinations.
That's the CURRENT law, what makes you think it won't change?
For your information, Comcast, the largest telecommunications and internet provider in the U.S has already been caught illegally throttling traffic to torrents. There have been several bills that congress nearly passed in the last couple years that will make what Comcast did legal. That means all the largest telecommunication giants and ISPs can BLOCK users from accessing whatever site they want with a snap of a finger.
Guess what? They will have no problem blocking traffic to illegal tube sites, file sharing sites and torrents. Less bandwidth consumed, less resources needed and large payouts from the entertainment industry. Blue media corp, Comcast and many others have been pushing for it big time.
Just because things are the way they are now, doesn't mean they will stay that way. There are much larger powers with way more pull than the "netizens".
BTW..Netizens isn't even a word and you want to play grammar police.
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