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  • aniloscash
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    • Oct 2008
    • 1161

    #151
    sex tube thats interested it would seem to me google should own anything that uses the name tube. aka youtube which came first.
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    • mpahlca
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      • Feb 2004
      • 1821

      #152
      Originally posted by aniloscash
      sex tube thats interested it would seem to me google should own anything that uses the name tube. aka youtube which came first.
      Sorry but please read the thread you will see sextube.com was registered prior to youtube.com
      I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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      • Brujah
        Beer Money Baron
        • Jan 2001
        • 22157

        #153
        Originally posted by Davey Jones
        http://www.darksidedata.com/twistys2.txt

        Yes, indeed you own more copyright infriging names.

        Steve doesn't mind Shap owning LightSpeedSorority.com either? I hope we can get mpahlca to explain how this is different.

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        • Lamis
          So Fucking Banned
          • Sep 2007
          • 961

          #154
          Karma is doing it's job... everyone gets hit SOON or LATE..

          chio was one...

          I will really enjoy when the canadian PIG gets hit by KARMA... Because HE WILL get HIT soon or late... We need to put some sharks near that boat.

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          • Agent 488
            Registered User
            • Feb 2006
            • 22511

            #155
            Originally posted by V_RocKs
            Just sucks that you have to hire a lawyer to keep a website with almost no traffic.
            ?

            http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ardsextube.com

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            • JaneB

              #156
              Originally posted by hdkiller
              hardsextube is my trademark in hungary... also my domain is registered before your trade mark... you are a trademark troll..
              If that is the case then fight to keep it.

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              • Deej
                I make pixels work
                • Jun 2005
                • 24386

                #157
                Originally posted by MaDalton
                I'm going to register "Amazing Content" and then sue every other content seller who claims to have amazing content ;)))
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                • mpahlca
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                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1821

                  #158
                  Originally posted by hdkiller
                  hardsextube is my trademark in hungary... also my domain is registered before your trade mark... you are a trademark troll..
                  hardsextube.com created on 21 Mar 2007

                  you think so? we will find out with Icann good luck.
                  I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                  • CrkMStanz
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                    • Jan 2008
                    • 517

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Shap
                    I can't believe how many people are backing a guy who built his traffic on stolen content lol
                    I really am not backing him but (i hate stolen content users) .... but...


                    Originally posted by Mr.Right

                    Let's be realistic here. Someone having hardsextube.com name in no way collides with your sextube.com site. You just want to take away some juicy names and you're hiding behind the "our lawyer did it" excuse.
                    you can't reasonably expect that because you have full rights to sextube.com that you automatically have rights to...

                    hardsextube.com
                    bluesextube.com
                    wetsextube.com
                    joessextube.com
                    mandysextube.com
                    cnotesextube.com
                    pillsextube.com
                    softsextube.com
                    .
                    .
                    .
                    .
                    [insertanyname]sextube.com
                    .
                    .
                    .
                    .
                    toinfinitysextube.com

                    or do you...?
                    believe me - without free porn, just as many people will seek porn out on the Internet, and many more will pay if there is no free alternative, its not like sex is a fad - it can be milked much like any renewable resource - long term

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                    • ContentPimp
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                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3184

                      #160
                      Originally posted by Matyko
                      you see, some just see that you're trying to "hijack" a tube site way more bigger and valuable than yours...

                      Btw it was so weak to use the stolen content card :P I suggest you to change your lawyer to a better one, like mine

                      i like your master of litigation ;)
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                      • Brujah
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                        • Jan 2001
                        • 22157

                        #161
                        Originally posted by mpahlca
                        hardsextube.com created on 21 Mar 2007

                        you think so? we will find out with Icann good luck.
                        Don't get busted reverse domain hijacking. That's a precedence you don't want to set so early.

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                        • JaneB

                          #162
                          Originally posted by mpahlca
                          hardsextube.com created on 21 Mar 2007

                          you think so? we will find out with Icann good luck.

                          Do you really need to be such an ass to him? There is no need for Twisty's to try and take his site. Like someone pointed out Shap owns a lot of copyright infriging names. I would like to see LightSpeed come after you.

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                          • mpahlca
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                            • Feb 2004
                            • 1821

                            #163
                            Originally posted by Brujah
                            Steve doesn't mind Shap owning LightSpeedSorority.com either? I hope we can get mpahlca to explain how this is different.
                            As i posted earlier on our position let Steve hit us up about it.
                            I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                            • starpimps
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                              • Sep 2006
                              • 6954

                              #164
                              tube.com trademark is going to go after sextube and youtube
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                              • Brujah
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                                • Jan 2001
                                • 22157

                                #165
                                Originally posted by mpahlca
                                As i posted earlier on our position let Steve hit us up about it.
                                So your position is, it's OK if Shap does it. It's BAD if anyone else does it.

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                                • JaneB

                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by mpahlca
                                  As i posted earlier on our position let Steve hit us up about it.
                                  Ok. I will send him the link to this thread. I am sure he will hit you up about it.

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                                  • Cyandin
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                                    • Aug 2008
                                    • 1723

                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                    That's a stupid comment, especially coming from a host. Trademark is trademark.

                                    Brad
                                    No, what's stupid is your inability to formulate an intelligent response to my statement.

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                                    • hdkiller
                                      Full time cybermage
                                      • Jun 2006
                                      • 461

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by mpahlca
                                      hardsextube.com created on 21 Mar 2007

                                      you think so? we will find out with Icann good luck.
                                      let we see exposed how hungarians sue a company for a few millions of bucks
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                                      • hdkiller
                                        Full time cybermage
                                        • Jun 2006
                                        • 461

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by fris
                                        Shap funds stolen content sites, hes part of the problem as well.
                                        yeah who keep alive the puretna where all of the youporn contents come from

                                        expose?
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                                        • mpahlca
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                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 1821

                                          #170
                                          Originally posted by JaneB
                                          Do you really need to be such an ass to him? There is no need for Twisty's to try and take his site. Like someone pointed out Shap owns a lot of copyright infriging names. I would like to see LightSpeed come after you.
                                          I am sorry why am I being and ass? he owns a trademarked domain that he built illegally with stolen content and using our trademark? We sent a letter asking him to turn it over, thats his problem, if Steve would like his domain back thats up to him, and if he has the trademark we would by law have to turn it over wouldn't we.
                                          I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                          • hdkiller
                                            Full time cybermage
                                            • Jun 2006
                                            • 461

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by Shap
                                            I don't believe he even has a hungarian trademark. I may be wrong. From the searches I ran nothing came up.

                                            i do, i have legal documents, also i have top lawyers.. money speak you know...
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                                            • Lamis
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Sep 2007
                                              • 961

                                              #172
                                              SHAP... yo make 100k per month of profit...

                                              I can't believe that your LAWYER SUCKS SO MUCH DUDE... LOL...

                                              Are there no real lawyers in bahamas or what???

                                              He don't even know the law... LOL....

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                                              • Rice_Master
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                                                • Mar 2001
                                                • 1582

                                                #173
                                                just checked out http://www.hardsextube.com, it's a pretty big site according to alexa...if i were shap i'd try to take the domain away as well
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                                                • mpahlca
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                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 1821

                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                  So your position is, it's OK if Shap does it. It's BAD if anyone else does it.
                                                  Not bad good business.
                                                  I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                  • cherrylula
                                                    lol
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 15969

                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by Shap
                                                    I can't believe how many people are backing a guy who built his traffic on stolen content lol
                                                    how can you say this when you run tube sites? come on now...

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                                                    • Trax
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                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                      • 14486

                                                      #176
                                                      if hardsextube.com was there before sextube.com as the guy from hungary claims he has nothing to fear anyway....

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                                                      • Sands
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                                                        • Feb 2007
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                                                        #177
                                                        We sure got a lot of snow here in NY. It's crazy how it just keeps coming down. Like an unending cascade.

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                                                        • notime
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                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 8027

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                          I'm going to register "Amazing Content" and then sue every other content seller who claims to have amazing content ;)))
                                                          Can I pay you in beer then ?

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                                                          • mpahlca
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                            • 1821

                                                            #179
                                                            Originally posted by cherrylula
                                                            how can you say this when you run tube sites? come on now...
                                                            Check ours for any stolen content we are 100% legit, and always have been even when people called us out no one found a single link that had illegal content instead we advertise the sites completely, by surrounding their videos with contextual ads.

                                                            We police every video on our sites and check with the users who do submit to double check the age and verification of the videos. We also invite sponsors to submit and work closely with many to make sure their videos get the most clicks and sales we make money 100% as affiliate based tubes.
                                                            I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                            • Brujah
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                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 22157

                                                              #180
                                                              If hardsextube.com needs to find a great lawyer to defend his position with ICANN, contact me. I'd be glad to help. Any domain owners with generic domains need to make sure their domain rights are protected against reverse domain hijackers.

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                                                              • mpahlca
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 1821

                                                                #181
                                                                Originally posted by Trax
                                                                if hardsextube.com was there before sextube.com as the guy from hungary claims he has nothing to fear anyway....
                                                                it was not
                                                                I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                                • JaneB

                                                                  #182
                                                                  Originally posted by mpahlca
                                                                  Not bad good business.

                                                                  How is that good business? You are doing the same exact thing that you are going after other people for.

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                                                                  • Redmanthatcould
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                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                    • 2771

                                                                    #183
                                                                    I don't claim to be a trademark lawyer, but from what I have heard / been told, if you know of a site infringing on your trademark, and don't take action, you could potentially lose your mark.

                                                                    So I don't think it has anything to do with "abusing a policy", but I think it has everything to do with protecting their mark.

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                                                                    • HorseShit
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                      • 17513

                                                                      #184
                                                                      if hardsextube.com had an alexa rank of 5 million would you guys still be going through all of this?

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                                                                      • PornMD
                                                                        Mainstream Businessman
                                                                        • Jan 2007
                                                                        • 9291

                                                                        #185
                                                                        Registration date and even trademark date isn't as important as USAGE.

                                                                        "What are common law rights?

                                                                        Federal registration is not required to establish rights in a trademark. Common law rights arise from actual use of a mark."

                                                                        Arguably, since "tube" isn't yet technically considered a generic term referring to a website with videos on it, YouTube could have the jump on all sites with "tube" in them that are operating a similar style video site because such sites are piggybacking on the popularity of YouTube, which has had common law trademark rights since its first usage of YouTube as a video site. From the looks of things, SexTube was still under construction in at least part of 2006 while YouTube was very much in use as a video site.

                                                                        All that said, given SexTube's usage began before HardSexTube and they are trademarked, they probably will win. But if I were them or any other tube site with "tube" or possibly even "you" in the name, I would not be surprised if sometime in the future, YouTube knocks on their door. Google has bullied others out of their domains/sites before and will gladly do it again with their ridiculous amount of lawyers/money.

                                                                        What I don't get are people that support copyright infringement but not trademark infringement or vice versa. I don't think Shap would look bad at all in this thread if he wasn't supporting tube sites with stolen content or had typo domains. There's a difference between protecting your trademark/wanting law upheld and thinking law should only apply to you when you can benefit from it and not when you're breaking it or supporting those that break it. You can do whatever you want, but don't be surprised when others don't take kindly to it.
                                                                        Last edited by PornMD; 03-02-2009, 01:01 PM.
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                                                                        • mpahlca
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                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                          • 1821

                                                                          #186
                                                                          Originally posted by hdkiller
                                                                          i do, i have legal documents, also i have top lawyers.. money speak you know...
                                                                          Then why didn't your respond with the legal documents instead of having your friend post here?
                                                                          I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                                          • BV
                                                                            wtf
                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                            • 10914

                                                                            #187
                                                                            Originally posted by mpahlca
                                                                            For your records:

                                                                            youtube.com Created on..............: 2005-02-14
                                                                            sextube.com Created on..............: 2004-10-31
                                                                            actually sextube was first registered in 1998

                                                                            problem you guys have is that sextube was never a "tube" site until just recently (past 6 mos or so), so you might have a hard time in court

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                                                                            • cess
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                                                                              • Sep 2006
                                                                              • 2921

                                                                              #188
                                                                              Originally posted by mpahlca
                                                                              if Steve would like his domain back thats up to him, and if he has the trademark we would by law have to turn it over wouldn't we.
                                                                              If Steve didn't know about it or any other names that you guys own have trademarks in them it's still trademark infringement. The law isn't broken if you refuse to hand it over it's broken when you used someone elses trademark to make money.

                                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_infringement

                                                                              "Trademark infringement is a violation of the exclusive rights attaching to a trademark without the authorization of the trademark owner or any licensees (provided that such authorization was within the scope of the license)."

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                                                                              • mpahlca
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                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                • 1821

                                                                                #189
                                                                                Originally posted by jdavis
                                                                                if hardsextube.com had an alexa rank of 5 million would you guys still be going through all of this?
                                                                                We already are, we have hardsextube.ca which was already turned over, and are continuing to go after the others as I post this.
                                                                                I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                                                • PornMD
                                                                                  Mainstream Businessman
                                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                                  • 9291

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  Originally posted by cess
                                                                                  If Steve didn't know about it or any other names that you guys own have trademarks in them it's still trademark infringement. The law isn't broken if you refuse to hand it over it's broken when you used someone elses trademark to make money.

                                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_infringement

                                                                                  "Trademark infringement is a violation of the exclusive rights attaching to a trademark without the authorization of the trademark owner or any licensees (provided that such authorization was within the scope of the license)."
                                                                                  Correct - that's why sometimes even when names are turned over, the owners are then sued for damages, legal fees, etc. They were breaking the law the moment they infringed on the trademark.
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                                                                                  • JaneB

                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    Originally posted by mpahlca
                                                                                    We already are, we have hardsextube.ca which was already turned over, and are continuing to go after the others as I post this.

                                                                                    Good luck. You are going to lose affiliates over this. Funny that you are going after people, but you are doing the exact same thing. Which in turn means someone will come and sue you.

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                                                                                    • mpahlca
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                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                      • 1821

                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      Originally posted by JaneB
                                                                                      Good luck. You are going to lose affiliates over this. Funny that you are going after people, but you are doing the exact same thing. Which in turn means someone will come and sue you.
                                                                                      Funny thing on that I have had more people hit me up today because of this thread so thats why i keep bumping it, I really don't care what people think, its making me money the more this stays at the top, and in the end we will get the domain, I dont really put faith in GFY legal opinions I pay lawyers for their opinions.
                                                                                      I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                                                      • mpahlca
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                        • 1821

                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        BTW thanks for everyone hitting the site, looks like best day ever on http://www.sextube.com keep it up.
                                                                                        I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                                                        • wjxxx
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 4448

                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          Yeah, it`s the time of crisis. Low-lives will do everything to make a buck. Some of them hit surfers with hidden prechecked crossales, others steal content and others steal domains.

                                                                                          I just dropped all Twistys links, good day

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                                                                                          • Pipecrew
                                                                                            Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                            • 14888

                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            I think almost everyone here bitching about trademark law really does not understand it very well. Go read up on it for about 10 minutes and you will count the people who know what they are talking about on one hand in this thread.

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                                                                                            • d-null
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                                                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                                                              • 13724

                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              Originally posted by JaneB
                                                                                              Good luck. You are going to lose affiliates over this.
                                                                                              I thought somebody was quoted in some other thread about how the affiliate model is on its last legs and priorities are moving to other business models that will cut out the affiliates completely?

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                                                                                              • xclusive
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                                                                                                • Apr 2004
                                                                                                • 35218

                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                Originally posted by mpahlca
                                                                                                Check ours for any stolen content we are 100% legit, and always have been even when people called us out no one found a single link that had illegal content instead we advertise the sites completely, by surrounding their videos with contextual ads.

                                                                                                We police every video on our sites and check with the users who do submit to double check the age and verification of the videos. We also invite sponsors to submit and work closely with many to make sure their videos get the most clicks and sales we make money 100% as affiliate based tubes.
                                                                                                http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=810316 yup always lol

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                                                                                                • DAMNMAN
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                  • 1440

                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Cyandin
                                                                                                  There is no instance of thievery taking place here at all.

                                                                                                  EDIT: The mere notion that hardsextube is somehow trying to cybersquat sextube is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If nonsense like this held water, all you webmasters would be losing your asses to porn.com and sex.com under claims that you all are trying to rip off the guys with the two best adult domain names.

                                                                                                  Yep....
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                                                                                                  • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                    • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                    #199

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                                                                                                    • JaneB

                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      QUOTE=wjxxx;15573202]Yeah, it`s the time of crisis. Low-lives will do everything to make a buck. Some of them hit surfers with hidden prechecked crossales, others steal content and others steal domains.

                                                                                                      I just dropped all Twistys links, good day[/QUOTE]


                                                                                                      I dropped them too. If a lot of affiliates drop them then maybe that will teach them a lesson. This needs to be posted on all of the adult forums so everyone can see that Michael thinks it is ok to go after people while doing the same thing.

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