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  • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
    (felis madjewicus)
    • Jul 2006
    • 20368

    #101
    heaven forbid you use your fucking head and modify the html.
    100

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    • Klen
      • Aug 2006
      • 32234

      #102
      Read this site ; http://seochat.com to learn more about pr and outgoing link influence.

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      • cykoe6
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2005
        • 4499

        #103
        I saw this a long time ago and just removed the <h2> and its contents. Seems like a pretty easy problem to solve.
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        • fusionx
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2003
          • 4618

          #104
          Originally posted by mobilefun1987
          Google will punish any website which is sending too many outbound links and that is a fact.

          on the other hand if you have 10-20 links outbound, and, 20,000 incoming links you will not see any affect and will not be punished.

          This is basically true. But it has nothing to do with PageRank.

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          • HandballJim
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2008
            • 4024

            #105
            Originally posted by cykoe6
            I saw this a long time ago and just removed the <h2> and its contents. Seems like a pretty easy problem to solve.
            Sometimes you edit some of these affiliate codes...and you get no credit at all. They should just fix this going forward...makes no sense to start fucking with them. Someone should just foward this thread to these companies.
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            • Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE

              #106
              Originally posted by nico-t
              aside from the fact that its rediculous a sponsor puts a hard link in their iframe code - its blatant stealing - your pr does depend on the number of outgoing links also. If you got a page with 1000 incoming links and 5000 outgoing links your pr is way worse than if you got only 10 outgoing links on a page with 1000 icoming links. Its pretty damn logical....
              That has nothing to do with the pages PR, just the fact that google sees the page as a linkfarm and shit cans it anyway...

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              • Badmaash
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2007
                • 2695

                #107
                I was just about to prmote webcams.com today since I joined a long time ago but never had the time.

                So what have they said about the issue?



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                • Badmaash
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 2695

                  #108
                  BTW - this cam company is going to have the top pornstars lining up to do live sex shows.... thought id tell you.

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                  • NicelyWritten
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 161

                    #109
                    I made the post on here http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=890345 to find out what's going on.

                    I myself did edit the code and it's gone but some of the issues some of the members are having is the fact that it's there in the first place, regardless of overall effect. The theory behind it is pretty sneaky. It was just something I wanted to point out without drama.

                    I don't care who makes more money but I care that we all make money. So let's get this sorted out and start making money again.
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                    • xsabn
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2815

                      #110
                      webcams is not the only sponsor doing this. anyway , they do it wrong . i create my own iframes using XML or RSS feeds. Nobody forces you to have the link on these iframes, you can just delete it.

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                      • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                        (felis madjewicus)
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 20368

                        #111
                        Originally posted by Badmaash
                        BTW - this cam company is going to have the top pornstars lining up to do live sex shows.... thought id tell you.

                        are they still packing that ridiculous short revshare period?

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                        • Badmaash
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 2695

                          #112
                          Yah they still got a 14 day cookie which is great so that the pool of customers never dries up.
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                          • Nicky
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 30071

                            #113
                            Originally posted by Badmaash
                            Yah they still got a 14 day cookie which is great so that the pool of customers never dries up.
                            Now that's a very over optimistic way to look at it IMO.

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                            • polish_aristocrat
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 40377

                              #114
                              Originally posted by Nicky
                              Now that's a very over optimistic way to look at it IMO.
                              I don't think anyone reall knows how AWE's system work.. even though it's been explained to death
                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                              • Phoenix
                                BACON BACON BACON
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 35475

                                #115
                                so are you guys going to send me some traffic or what ;)
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                                • d-null
                                  . . .
                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 13724

                                  #116
                                  some sponsors see sites like pornhub sitting at number one for huge terms on google, and their thinking is that they can use affiliates for relevancy and authority to their own sites and make more money off of se traffic than 98% of the affiliates putting up their links in the first place... they know that 98% of their affiliates will make very little or nothing but they help the sponsor's greater cause in the long run

                                  when a company does a few things that raise your eyebrows you have to wonder, and sometimes it looks like the priority is shifting away from a main goal of a profitable partnership between sponsor and affiliates to where they are working toward a situation where the affiliates are becoming expendable

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                                  • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                                    (felis madjewicus)
                                    • Jul 2006
                                    • 20368

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by d-null
                                    some sponsors see sites like pornhub sitting at number one for huge terms on google, and their thinking is that they can use affiliates for relevancy and authority to their own sites and make more money off of se traffic than 98% of the affiliates putting up their links in the first place... they know that 98% of their affiliates will make very little or nothing but they help the sponsor's greater cause in the long run

                                    when a company does a few things that raise your eyebrows you have to wonder, and sometimes it looks like the priority is shifting away from a main goal of a profitable partnership between sponsor and affiliates to where they are working toward a situation where the affiliates are becoming expendable
                                    with the direction the adult sector of im is moving, you can damn well bet there's a lot of bigname networks looking at working the affiliate out of the equation in any way they can...

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                                    • PrivateEye
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 1784

                                      #118
                                      I think there has been a extra link in ever iframe I ever used...

                                      If you dont like the link.....remove it ;-)
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                                      • Kard63
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 8944

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by notime
                                        If you know that DaveyJones is Dark Jedi then this pic was great. Otherwise... you blow



                                        BTW- DJ is right.

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                                        • wizzart
                                          scriptmaster
                                          • May 2006
                                          • 5246

                                          #120
                                          PussyCash have rule that you can't change code or they can terminate your account.
                                          And on this way they getting lot of free PR links and good positions on SERP
                                          BimboZone

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                                          • DarkJedi
                                            No Refunds Issued.
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 28301

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by wizzart
                                            PussyCash have rule that you can't change code or they can terminate your account.
                                            And on this way they getting lot of free PR links and good positions on SERP
                                            That's fucked.

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                                            • ExLust
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2008
                                              • 3223

                                              #122
                                              Thanks for the heads up.

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                                              • Blazed
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2006
                                                • 1701

                                                #123
                                                This really is not a big deal, i noticed it ages ago and just removed the link and have done so from plenty of sponsors. If this was some sort of injection or something that is completely hidden to you sure but it is not hidden in anyway whatsoever (only from the SE's), its your job as a webmaster to look at what code you are pasting into your site.

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                                                • nico-t
                                                  emperor of my world
                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 29901

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                  That has nothing to do with the pages PR, just the fact that google sees the page as a linkfarm and shit cans it anyway...
                                                  obviously i exaggerated the numbers for example sake, think smaller numbers

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                                                  • Quagmire
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                    • 6490

                                                    #125
                                                    I'd still promote Webcams.com with the 'PR theft' over them cocksmokers over at Video Secrets any day.

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                                                    • rowan
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                      • 17393

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by Blazed
                                                      This really is not a big deal, i noticed it ages ago and just removed the link and have done so from plenty of sponsors. If this was some sort of injection or something that is completely hidden to you sure but it is not hidden in anyway whatsoever (only from the SE's), its your job as a webmaster to look at what code you are pasting into your site.
                                                      How long before an uncredited backlink/leak quietly slips into the RSS feed?

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                                                      • TeenCat
                                                        Too lazy to set a koala
                                                        • Jan 2007
                                                        • 16131

                                                        #127
                                                        oh guys i am seo lame but i know that 1+1=2, and if you put 1000 outgoing pr0 links at pr5 site, it must do something with your pr5 site! and if you dont think so, go and wash your head in cold water ...

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                                                        • JamesK
                                                          hi
                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                          • 16731

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by wizzart
                                                          PussyCash have rule that you can't change code or they can terminate your account.
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                                                          • Blazed
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                            • 1701

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by rowan
                                                            How long before an uncredited backlink/leak quietly slips into the RSS feed?
                                                            Its totally different they are giving you the option to use the link or remove the link, its in the code and clearly visible. That doesnt mean they are going to start forcing shit on you now. Wordpress done the same thing ages ago they put hidden links in the footer of every wordpress install.

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                                                            • wizzart
                                                              scriptmaster
                                                              • May 2006
                                                              • 5246

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by Quagmire
                                                              I'd still promote Webcams.com with the 'PR theft' over them cocksmokers over at Video Secrets any day.
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                                                              • Walrus
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2005
                                                                • 2150

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by Quagmire
                                                                I'd still promote Webcams.com with the 'PR theft' over them cocksmokers over at Video Secrets any day.
                                                                Ya, what is wrong with Video Secrets? Thought they were supposed to be good? A little birdy did tell me that their models are treated poorly, though. Don't know if anyone knows anything about that or not.

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                                                                • xentech
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                  • 1405

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Anyone who cares about this is just bitchin', they are doing good business - if you understand what they are doing with that iframe trick just remove the code and stop whining.

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                                                                  • sortie
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2007
                                                                    • 7771

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                    It's pretty easy.

                                                                    All incoming links raise your page's Pagerank.

                                                                    All outgoing links decrease your page's Pagerank.
                                                                    So a link list with a link back from every site will always have
                                                                    page rank zero then....right???

                                                                    I mean, same number of links going in and out, right.

                                                                    I've never heard this before.

                                                                    I don't see how this would benefit google.
                                                                    Jos sites linking to resumes and companies would rank last.
                                                                    Doesn't make sense.

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                                                                    • Quagmire
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                      • 6490

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by Walrus
                                                                      Ya, what is wrong with Video Secrets? Thought they were supposed to be good? A little birdy did tell me that their models are treated poorly, though. Don't know if anyone knows anything about that or not.
                                                                      Your little birdy has good ears. Of course their excuse is that the models are through studios which are 'third party' and has nothing to do with them.

                                                                      Bottom line is they are a bunch of arrogant douchebags.

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                                                                      • Iron Fist
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Dec 2006
                                                                        • 23400

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by Walrus
                                                                        Ya, what is wrong with Video Secrets? Thought they were supposed to be good? A little birdy did tell me that their models are treated poorly, though. Don't know if anyone knows anything about that or not.
                                                                        No you missed the drama where someone had "lifetime" revshare, and then VS stopped paying them because they didn't send them any traffic for years, but still getting rebills from their "lifetime" revshare joins. Last I saw, had nothing to do with models, more about getting paid if you don't send traffic.
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                                                                        • Iron Fist
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                                          • 23400

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by sortie
                                                                          So a link list with a link back from every site will always have
                                                                          page rank zero then....right???
                                                                          No, because if a site becomes popular then there is more people linking to it (or bookmarking it) and there's more PR juice assigned to it. It's not entirely based on links either especially if they have analytics enabled on the page as well.
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                                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                            • 28609

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Hate to agree with dj but yes this hurts pr, both of your sites and every link on your page that is devalued because of it.
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                                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                              • 28609

                                                                              #138
                                                                              wish people would use common sense sometimes.. this can kill your serp.

                                                                              example. I have a page about buttons , my competitor also has a page about buttons, we each have 5 links pointing to us from other "button" sites we each have 1 link pointing out to a "button" site, now i add a text link to webcams that has nothing to do with buttons.

                                                                              hmm how do you think google will treat our sites if half my outbound links are to irrelevant pages and my competitions page has 100% of their outbound links pointing to relevant sites
                                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                              • Niktamer
                                                                                Lord of the Leads
                                                                                • May 2005
                                                                                • 3021

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Good point on that

                                                                                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                wish people would use common sense sometimes.. this can kill your serp.

                                                                                example. I have a page about buttons , my competitor also has a page about buttons, we each have 5 links pointing to us from other "button" sites we each have 1 link pointing out to a "button" site, now i add a text link to webcams that has nothing to do with buttons.

                                                                                hmm how do you think google will treat our sites if half my outbound links are to irrelevant pages and my competitions page has 100% of their outbound links pointing to relevant sites

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                                                                                • sortie
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                                  • 7771

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                  example. I have a page about buttons , my competitor also has a page about buttons, we each have 5 links pointing to us from other "button" sites we each have 1 link pointing out to a "button" site, now i add a text link to webcams that has nothing to do with buttons.
                                                                                  But what if the webcams show belly buttons?

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                                                                                  • AaliyahLove
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Apr 2008
                                                                                    • 2722

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by Quagmire
                                                                                    Your little birdy has good ears. Of course their excuse is that the models are through studios which are 'third party' and has nothing to do with them.

                                                                                    Bottom line is they are a bunch of arrogant douchebags.
                                                                                    The model in this situation said more than once how VS stepped up and helped her with that situation and she is happy how it turned out, so why are you still so upset about it?

                                                                                    I worked for a studio for VS for my 1st 3 years in this business, and I am still grateful to everything VS did for me, I got to know plenty of girls that worked for VS, independent and through studios, USA and international, and they were all happy and treated fairly and always paid on time (which is more than I can say for some other webcam sites!)

                                                                                    I only see it from the model perspective, so I can't talk about affiliate programs or stuff like that, but your beef is with the studio owners and model treatment, and you seem to be the ONLY ONE, so whats your real agenda here I wonder?


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                                                                                    • Quagmire
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                      • 6490

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by AaliyahLove
                                                                                      The model in this situation said more than once how VS stepped up and helped her with that situation and she is happy how it turned out, so why are you still so upset about it?

                                                                                      I worked for a studio for VS for my 1st 3 years in this business, and I am still grateful to everything VS did for me, I got to know plenty of girls that worked for VS, independent and through studios, USA and international, and they were all happy and treated fairly and always paid on time (which is more than I can say for some other webcam sites!)

                                                                                      I only see it from the model perspective, so I can't talk about affiliate programs or stuff like that, but your beef is with the studio owners and model treatment, and you seem to be the ONLY ONE, so whats your real agenda here I wonder?
                                                                                      The issue is that they have a douchebag representing them in the Toronto/GTA territory who has posted a model's personal information in a public forum multiple times (Craigslist) while representing them. The links (on separate occasions) were sent to staff members at VS and they did absolutely nothing about it.

                                                                                      Their answers after the fact:
                                                                                      1> They didn't get the complaints from me. Bullshit, it was on ICQ and they responded to me. But no, they did not respond to the emails.
                                                                                      2> The studio is a 3rd party and they can't control what the studio does.

                                                                                      My agenda? Its to make people aware that they are lazy cocksuckers there at VS who did nothing about the problem. Their solution was to let that one specific model switch to another studio out of area.

                                                                                      As a model I would think you might appeciate the severity of a studio handing out a model's personal information in a public forum. Ask Illeana how much fun it is to have a stalker.

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                                                                                      • DarkJedi
                                                                                        No Refunds Issued.
                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 28301

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                        So a link list with a link back from every site will always have
                                                                                        page rank zero then....right???

                                                                                        I mean, same number of links going in and out, right.

                                                                                        I've never heard this before.
                                                                                        Linklist sites always get a link back from free sites the link to. So the PR leak kind of cancels out.

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                                                                                        • AaliyahLove
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Apr 2008
                                                                                          • 2722

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by Quagmire
                                                                                          The issue is that they have a douchebag representing them in the Toronto/GTA territory who has posted a model's personal information in a public forum multiple times (Craigslist) while representing them. The links (on separate occasions) were sent to staff members at VS and they did absolutely nothing about it.

                                                                                          Their answers after the fact:
                                                                                          1> They didn't get the complaints from me. Bullshit, it was on ICQ and they responded to me. But no, they did not respond to the emails.
                                                                                          2> The studio is a 3rd party and they can't control what the studio does.

                                                                                          My agenda? Its to make people aware that they are lazy cocksuckers there at VS who did nothing about the problem. Their solution was to let that one specific model switch to another studio out of area.

                                                                                          As a model I would think you might appeciate the severity of a studio handing out a model's personal information in a public forum. Ask Illeana how much fun it is to have a stalker.
                                                                                          Is the model you are talking about Bella Bellini? Because VS actually DID step up and do something according to her, and she said she was happy the way it turned out. I did in fact have a couple problems with the studio owners I worked for, and when I went straight to VS they took care of it also. One of the reasons I stuck with them for almost 5 years.. GREAT customer support, great model support, I was always treated very well by them.
                                                                                          So if think VS treats their models so poorly, which webcam site in your opinion treats their models better? I've worked for plenty of the "top webcam sites" and I still say VS was one of the top.. 2


                                                                                          www.AaliyahLove.CamModels.Com

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                                                                                          • miss_bellabellini
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2008
                                                                                            • 533

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            That's right Aaliyah, I've mentioned this a few times already but since it is being brought up again I have to say that it was resolved 100% to my satisfaction.

                                                                                            VS responded to me immediately when I spoke with them directly and sorted out the situation much faster than I anticipated. There will be problems in ANY company, what matters is how the company responds and solves the problems.
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                                                                                            • Quagmire
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                              • 6490

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by AaliyahLove
                                                                                              Is the model you are talking about Bella Bellini? Because VS actually DID step up and do something according to her, and she said she was happy the way it turned out. I did in fact have a couple problems with the studio owners I worked for, and when I went straight to VS they took care of it also. One of the reasons I stuck with them for almost 5 years.. GREAT customer support, great model support, I was always treated very well by them.
                                                                                              So if think VS treats their models so poorly, which webcam site in your opinion treats their models better? I've worked for plenty of the "top webcam sites" and I still say VS was one of the top.. 2
                                                                                              If you re-read my post it covers your first question.

                                                                                              If VS had any business ethics they would have kicked the 'studio' in Toronto to the curb. There is absolutely no possible way to excuse the actions of that 'studio' from a professional standpoint. He took advantage of a situation that he had purely because of representing them. Had he not been representing them he would never have had her personal information.

                                                                                              Of course the clueless jerkoffs at VS don't seem to be able to grasp this concept.
                                                                                              Last edited by Quagmire; 03-15-2009, 03:14 PM. Reason: typo

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                                                                                              • Doctor Feelgood
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                                                • 2112

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                google cant follow links that are in iframes stupid

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                                                                                                • Jdoughs
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 5794

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Doctor Feelgood
                                                                                                  google cant follow links that are in iframes stupid
                                                                                                  Can't or doesn't? May want to be more specific and factual if you are going to call someone stupid.
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                                                                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                                    • 28609

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Doctor Feelgood
                                                                                                    google cant follow links that are in iframes stupid
                                                                                                    lol best "i didnt read the thread at all " response

                                                                                                    p.s. the link isn't in the iframe
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                                                                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                      • 28609

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      the html after the <iframe> and before the </iframe> is read as html for browsers that have iframes turned off, so anyone with frames turned off sees a no ref link to webcams and your ad doesnt even showup. so quite possibly cell phones and mini aps would how this as well as anyone in a secure browser.

                                                                                                      at best its a very poor mistake.
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