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  • notoldschool
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2007
    • 5687
    #101
    Originally posted by Loryn
    Yeah because it's the rednecks we are worried about. Are you kidding me??? The whole hip hop/rap world sings songs making these guns a status symbol. I think you need to get out more, or grow up some, so you will then see that rednecks in Arkansas (where Hillary and Bill are from) aren't the only people playing around with these things. Gangsta's, black, white, brown, and yellow, in almost any city in the country are playing with them too, and probably more than these rednecks you are talking about.

    Sorry for the interruption on the debate of Obama reaching into our personal lives instead of leaving these things up to the individual states, like the Executive Branch should do with this abortion, gay marriage, and other personal life choices.........continue!!!
    LOL..We are talking about a law and people buying them legally, right? 15 year old gangbangers arent registering for these weapons usually bought stolen from people who are able to buy them legally. Get it? here is a great example of why dumb rednecks dont need to get their hands on a weapon of this type.


    http://www.boston.com/news/local/bre...dentify_6.html
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      • Ethersync
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        • Mar 2008
        • 5289
        #102
        Originally posted by spacedog
        The Truth About "Assault Weapons"
        Interesting video.
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          • crockett
            in a van by the river
            • May 2003
            • 76818
            #103
            I like Chris Rock's idea.. fuck banning the guns.. let people have what ever the fuck they want, but then charge $5k a bullet. You wanna shoot some fucker.. well it's gonna cost you $30k.

            In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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              • notoldschool
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2007
                • 5687
                #104
                Originally posted by crockett
                I like Chris Rock's idea.. fuck banning the guns.. let people have what ever the fuck they want, but then charge $5k a bullet. You wanna shoot some fucker.. well it's gonna cost you $30k.

                One of his best jokes for sure.
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                  • smax
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 341
                    #105
                    Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
                    i don't really see what business the public has owning full on assault rifles, but fuck it i'd shoot one if i had the chance.
                    This bill does not mention full assault rifles, it amounts to making things illegal because they look scary. It has nothing to do with the function or power of these weapons.

                    And just like the last AWB of the 90's will not accomplish its set goals

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                      • Brujah
                        Beer Money Baron
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 22157
                        #106
                        The police officer in the video says "Terms like assault rifle are hard to define. I don't know what an assault rifle is." Before making a video, maybe he should be clear on the terms first. Example:

                        Assault weapon refers to firearms that had been developed from earlier fully-automatic firearms into semi-automatic civilian-legal versions.

                        The ban did not cover "assault rifles" but merely the new category of "assault weapons" which did not include automatic firearms of any type.

                        By former U.S. law the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, H&K G36E, TEC-9, all non-automatic AK-47s, and Uzis)

                        The act did not include ALL semi-automatic weapons. Only those defined by the "assault weapon" category specifically.

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                          • tranza
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                            • Jun 2003
                            • 57559
                            #107
                            I'm just a newbie.

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                              • smax
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 341
                                #108
                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                The police officer in the video says "Terms like assault rifle are hard to define. I don't know what an assault rifle is." Before making a video, maybe he should be clear on the terms first. Example:

                                Assault weapon refers to firearms that had been developed from earlier fully-automatic firearms into semi-automatic civilian-legal versions.
                                Wrong

                                This would be banned, its just a shotgun but it looks scary!



                                This Ruger semi-auto rifle is perhaps the most popular .22 made and all three of my kids got one when they were young:


                                This is the exact same gun with a few add-on modifications that make it look like a military weapon:

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                                Both guns function the same way...they are semi-autos, not machine guns. Under the new "assault" weapons ban proposals, the latter would be banned, and it's not unreasonable to assume the former would be also.

                                They did that in Australia, and the did it in the UK. (and violent crime skyrocketed in both countries).


                                glad to see that Pelosi has come against this bill as has Reid

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                                  • Brujah
                                    Beer Money Baron
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 22157
                                    #109
                                    smax, why did you miss the rest of my post and only quote the part you wanted?

                                    The ban did not cover "assault rifles" but merely the new category of "assault weapons" which did not include automatic firearms of any type.

                                    By former U.S. law the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, H&K G36E, TEC-9, all non-automatic AK-47s, and Uzis)

                                    The act did not include ALL semi-automatic weapons. Only those defined by the "assault weapon" category specifically.

                                    Did you read the act or do you just like to imagine it says what you want to believe it says for drama purposes?

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                                      • smax
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2007
                                        • 341
                                        #110
                                        because the rest of your post is irrelevant to the point I was making, which is this statement is incorrect

                                        Assault weapon refers to firearms that had been developed from earlier fully-automatic firearms into semi-automatic civilian-legal versions.

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                                          • notoldschool
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2007
                                            • 5687
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by smax
                                            Wrong


                                            This Ruger semi-auto rifle is perhaps the most popular .22 made and all three of my kids got one when they were young:
                                            This just proves the whole point of why this law is needed. If people are dumb enough to give young children semi automatic weapons when they cant use a bike correctly..well then you may just be a redneck.
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                                              • Brujah
                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 22157
                                                #112
                                                Who else supported the ban? Former President and Attorney General.

                                                Testifying before the U.S. Senate last week, Alberto Gonzales announced he supports President Bush's position on the semi-auto ban.

                                                "The president has made it clear that he stands ready to sign a reauthorization of the federal assault weapons ban if it is sent to him by Congress," Gonzales said. "I, of course, support the president on this issue."
                                                He didn't need to sign it, because congress didn't send it to him.

                                                Obama is no different on this issue than Bush was, and no different than McCain would have been either, who voted for the Ban in 1994. No different than all those "conservatives" in congress. This isn't an Obama issue. Who are these conservative representatives of yours in congress? Did you vote them in?

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                                                  • smax
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                                                    • Jun 2007
                                                    • 341
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                    This just proves the whole point of why this law is needed. If people are dumb enough to give young children semi automatic weapons when they cant use a bike correctly..well then you may just be a redneck.
                                                    just because you and your children were uncoordinated and could not ride a bike at the age of 8 does not mean the rest of us are the same.

                                                    Even though this pic is close to 20 years old, my 8 year old cousin at the time had no problem killing this 60 pound cougar that came into their back yard, with a .22




                                                    Yes they are rednecks but they enjoy their life and who am I to tell them to move out of the country

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                                                      • Brujah
                                                        Beer Money Baron
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 22157
                                                        #114
                                                        smax, a .22 isn't on the ban list either. A .22 wouldn't be banned. So you can buy all the .22 semi-automatic rifles that you want. Knock yourself out.

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                                                          • notoldschool
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                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                            • 5687
                                                            #115
                                                            Originally posted by smax
                                                            just because you and your children were uncoordinated and could not ride a bike at the age of 8 does not mean the rest of us are the same.

                                                            Even though this pic is close to 20 years old, my 8 year old cousin at the time had no problem killing this 60 pound cougar that came into their back yard, with a .22




                                                            Yes they are rednecks but they enjoy their life and who am I to tell them to move out of the country
                                                            Im thinking the rifle that kid is holding is not on the ban list. I also could care less about idiot parents who put deadly weapons in the hands of kids who dont understand consequences, but these are the kids you hear about taking out kids in school yards and that cannot be denied.

                                                            Why not put a crack pipe in your kids hands why dont ya...its far less dangerous and atleast he will be the only person harmed.
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                                                              • smax
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                                                                • Jun 2007
                                                                • 341
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                smax, a .22 isn't on the ban list either. A .22 wouldn't be banned. So you can buy all the .22 semi-automatic rifles that you want. Knock yourself out.

                                                                Are you sure? In the example I posted above with extended magazine folding stand, it sure could be and that was my point. This ban is not based on functionality of a wepon its based on looks

                                                                The uzis and aks you mentioned earlier are not covered under this proposed ban either, they fall under the NFA tax system.



                                                                Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                                Im thinking the rifle that kid is holding is not on the ban list. I also could care less about idiot parents who put deadly weapons in the hands of kids who dont understand consequences, but these are the kids you hear about taking out kids in school yards and that cannot be denied.
                                                                .
                                                                That is just stupid

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                                                                  • Brujah
                                                                    Beer Money Baron
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 22157
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by smax
                                                                    Are you sure? In the example I posted above with extended magazine folding stand, it sure could be and that was my point. This ban is not based on functionality of a wepon its based on looks

                                                                    The uzis and aks you mentioned earlier are not covered under this proposed ban either, they fall under the NFA tax system.
                                                                    Yes, I'm sure. That's why I said there was a specific list of weapons. This was not an all-inclusive, every semi-automatic weapon ban. It was not based on the way the weapon looks. Don't make these assumptions.

                                                                    Even more important though, is who did you vote for and who is going to represent your views if almost all of the Republicans are voting for the ban too? How do you get past the two party system and get a libertarian elected for example?

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                                                                      • escorpio
                                                                        doesn't fuck around.
                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 23485
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by smax
                                                                        just because you and your children were uncoordinated and could not ride a bike at the age of 8 does not mean the rest of us are the same.

                                                                        Even though this pic is close to 20 years old, my 8 year old cousin at the time had no problem killing this 60 pound cougar that came into their back yard, with a .22




                                                                        Yes they are rednecks but they enjoy their life and who am I to tell them to move out of the country
                                                                        Nice shooting, kid!
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                                                                          • smax
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jun 2007
                                                                            • 341
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                            Yes, I'm sure. That's why I said there was a specific list of weapons. This was not an all-inclusive, every semi-automatic weapon ban. It was not based on the way the weapon looks. Don't make these assumptions.

                                                                            Even more important though, is who did you vote for and who is going to represent your views if almost all of the Republicans are voting for the ban too? How do you get past the two party system and get a libertarian elected for example?
                                                                            Do you have a link to this list of specific weapons?

                                                                            I find it strange that the premise behind this seems to be to appease Mexico, a country where guns are illegal unlike here in the US but THEY are the ones with the gun problem.
                                                                            I can not believe I'm saying this but Pelosi is correct

                                                                            ?On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,?
                                                                            I voted for Obama and this country will not shy away form a 2 party system in our lifetime, you can take that to the bank

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                                                                              • vanillaice
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                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                • 512
                                                                                #120
                                                                                I think we should be allowed to have tanks. I want to get one for my 8 year old daughter too. Fisher Price - My First Tank!

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                                                                                  • buyandsell
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • May 2008
                                                                                    • 692
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    you mean I can't keep an M16 in my car? outrageous!
                                                                                    how will I cope

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                                                                                      • GatorB
                                                                                        The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                        • 18208
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by CIVMatt
                                                                                        Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban
                                                                                        The Ban Expired in 2004 During the Bush Administration.
                                                                                        And you need an assult weapon for? NOTHING that's what. Gun nuts getting a pissy at NOTHING. How come you gun freaks never step up to the plate for my right to possess a fully functioning tank?

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                                                                                          • GatorB
                                                                                            The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                                            • 18208
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by smax
                                                                                            They did that in Australia, and the did it in the UK. (and violent crime skyrocketed in both countries).
                                                                                            I will bet you $1 million that the gun death rate in both countries is SIGNIFICANLY less than the US retard.

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                                                                                              • vanillaice
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                                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                                • 512
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090405/...gh_shooting_19

                                                                                                More cops dead from assault weapons.

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                                                                                                  • onwebcam
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                                                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                                                    • 27689
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Originally posted by vanillaice
                                                                                                    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090405/...gh_shooting_19

                                                                                                    More cops dead from assault weapons.
                                                                                                    It's way too convenient that all of these shootings are going on with all the gun ban bills being presented. There were reports all over the place of multiple shooters in the NY incident even witnesses seeing two people being taken away in cuffs. No mention of them ever again and one lone dead shooter.
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                                                                                                      • STAROTICA
                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                                                        • 1079
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        key word..."Assault"....not handguns to protect property as in your domicile.

                                                                                                        if you like Assault Wepons...join the US Military....and you can be RAMBO!

                                                                                                        no disrespect to our active duty forces.

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                                                                                                          • smack
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                                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                                            • 10652
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                                            And why exactly do you need to have assault weapons?

                                                                                                            And limiting which guns you can have does not go against the constitution. You still have the right to bear arms.
                                                                                                            because this is the united states, and if i want to own an assault weapon, as a law abiding and responsible citizen i should be able to.

                                                                                                            "...the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

                                                                                                            if you ask me, telling people what guns they can and can't own is infringement.
                                                                                                            Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                                                                              • smack
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                                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                • 10652
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                Originally posted by STAROTICA
                                                                                                                key word..."Assault"....not handguns to protect property as in your domicile.

                                                                                                                if you like Assault Wepons...join the US Military....and you can be RAMBO!

                                                                                                                no disrespect to our active duty forces.
                                                                                                                this is one of my favorite quotes:

                                                                                                                ?Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State?

                                                                                                                - Heinrich Himmler

                                                                                                                hmmm what did Heinrich Himmler do again? i forget.
                                                                                                                Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                                                                                  • StuartD
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                                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                    • 29903
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by smack
                                                                                                                    because this is the united states, and if i want to own an assault weapon, as a law abiding and responsible citizen i should be able to.

                                                                                                                    "...the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

                                                                                                                    if you ask me, telling people what guns they can and can't own is infringement.
                                                                                                                    It says "arms"... not guns.
                                                                                                                    So how about rocket launchers? nukes? torpedos? missile launchers?
                                                                                                                    Or are your rights being infringed upon?

                                                                                                                    The "right" to have "arms" doesn't mean you "have" to own anything that can be classified as "arms".

                                                                                                                    You guys cling to this outdated law like it's last bastion of freedom. Like you can't possibly live without the most powerful guns you can find simply because you're allowed to have them.

                                                                                                                    You're allowed to have pez dispensers too. Go collect those. Perhaps you won't cry so much then, unless someone tells you that you're not allowed to have the anthrax dispensing ones.
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                                                                                                                      • DWB
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                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                        • 31779
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        If you want to own a room full of those weapons, you should be allowed to do so. Be it you are a collector or just stocking up for the end of the world. A FREE MAN would be allowed to do that with the weapon of his/her choice.

                                                                                                                        So go on, let them take your assault weapons (while the cops, military and criminals gets to keep theirs) and sooner or later they will come for your handguns and shotguns. Then when the people are totally disarmed, you will have all deserved the fucking you will get from not being able to protect yourself.

                                                                                                                        It's not about this type or that type of gun. It's about your right as an American to have them. It's about them taking weapons from citizens who want them, while police, military and criminals will remain to have them. The end result is, YOU lose.

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                                                                                                                          • DWB
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                                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                            • 31779
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                                                            It says "arms"... not guns.
                                                                                                                            So how about rocket launchers? nukes? torpedos? missile launchers?
                                                                                                                            "Arms" mean armaments. It means weapons. A personal weapon. Torpedos and nukes are not personal weapons.

                                                                                                                            If you can pick it up to shoot it, you should be allowed to own it.

                                                                                                                            Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                                                            You guys cling to this outdated law like it's last bastion of freedom.
                                                                                                                            So lets just burn what's left of The Constitution then and start all over with "modern laws" made be honest and trustworthy politicians. Please let me know when you find these people.

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                                                                                                                              • StuartD
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                                                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                • 29903
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                                                                "Arms" mean armaments. It means weapons. A personal weapon. Torpedos and nukes are not personal weapons.

                                                                                                                                If you can pick it up to shoot it, you should be allowed to own it.
                                                                                                                                That's quite the stretch. How did you get to "personal" in that? If you want to dig into the meaning of armaments, let's not get "personal" and look at the real definition:
                                                                                                                                ar·ma·ment (ärm-mnt)
                                                                                                                                n.
                                                                                                                                1. The weapons and supplies of war with which a military unit is equipped.
                                                                                                                                2. All the military forces and war equipment of a country. Often used in the plural.
                                                                                                                                3. A military force equipped for war.
                                                                                                                                4. The process of arming for war.

                                                                                                                                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                                                                So lets just burn what's left of The Constitution then and start all over with "modern laws" made be honest and trustworthy politicians. Please let me know when you find these people.
                                                                                                                                The Consitution, like many laws, was written at a very different time than the present. When it was written, the worst "armament" you had to fear was a musket. And one person's differing interpretation of one line in the Constitution from another person's interpretation hardly means that the rest of the Constitution should be burned, no matter how dramatic you make it sound.
                                                                                                                                But you get points for sensationalism.
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                                                                                                                                  • abshard
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                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                                                                    If you can pick it up to shoot it, you should be allowed to own it.
                                                                                                                                    Like this for example?

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                                                                                                                                      • vanillaice
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                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                                                                        So go on, let them take your assault weapons (while the cops, military and criminals gets to keep theirs) and sooner or later they will come for your handguns and shotguns. Then when the people are totally disarmed, you will have all deserved the fucking you will get from not being able to protect yourself
                                                                                                                                        Sure, because that's exactly what will happen. Do you wear tin foil on your head too?

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                                                                                                                                          • dgraves
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                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2005
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                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            i'm glad we stocked up!

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                                                                                                                                              • After Shock Media
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                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                • 35299
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                                                                                The Consitution, like many laws, was written at a very different time than the present. When it was written, the worst "armament" you had to fear was a musket.
                                                                                                                                                It was not just musket vs musket. Even if we do not advance to the mid 1800's when the Gatling gun was available, to think warfare was limited to muskets is funny. Will not go into rifling and how that really changed shit. Seems people forget there was artillery in use. People also used delivered explosives. Not to mention anything from armor to warships.

                                                                                                                                                There really has not been a time when humans did not have weapons that were to be feared, just like there really has not been a time when a government did not have much superior arms over its populace. So simply stating that well they just had muskets so it was outdated is over simplifying it. Weapons have always advanced at an alarming rate, our forefathers knew this and yet they still wanted the citizens to have the right to arm themselves.

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                                                                                                                                                  • Ozarkz
                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2009
                                                                                                                                                    • 2377
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Why is Obama trying to take away everything we use to protect ourselves?

                                                                                                                                                    Fucking scary.

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                                                                                                                                                      • Bill8
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                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Ozarkz
                                                                                                                                                        Why is Obama trying to take away everything we use to protect ourselves?

                                                                                                                                                        Fucking scary.
                                                                                                                                                        You better go hide then.

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                                                                                                                                                          • Ozarkz
                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2009
                                                                                                                                                            • 2377
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Bill8
                                                                                                                                                            You better go hide then.
                                                                                                                                                            Why?

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                                                                                                                                                              • vanillaice
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                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                What's comical is how this is mostly a political issue for some of the gun nuts. I'm not going to throw out percentages, but i'd be willing to bet a good portion of those resisting this are conservative, voted for Bush and then McCain, and had no problem with the government heading down this crazy slippery slope with our freedoms, as long as it was under the mask of 'keeping the country safe'.

                                                                                                                                                                "Go ahead, wire tap me illegally, infringe on the freedom, and basically shit on the Constitution our forefathers fought to protect"

                                                                                                                                                                then months later...

                                                                                                                                                                "Wait, a black man wants to take my m16? Our forefathers fought for this freedom!" (even though he's not even thinking of taking away handguns, shotguns, rifles, etc)

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                                                                                                                                                                  • andykay
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Good for him! i'm Canadian and not a US basher, but when it comes to guns i am. Americans are obsessed with guns. Here in Canada we have big cities, the same basic tv/culture, yet we don't have a fraction of the gun related crimes that they have in the states, and it's because we have gun laws and people here aren't gun crazy. It's plain and simple, less guns = less crimes. If it were up to me ALL guns would be abolished, there should be nobody in the general public allowed to own weapons, that includes hunters. People don't need to hunt for food anymore, that's the oldest and lamest excuse in the book.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • scottybuzz
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                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                        • 14799
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by pr0
                                                                                                                                                                        Yea there are 2 places in America that take away all sharp objects.....heck they even search you for contraband daily, to make sure you don't have a weapon (EVEN YOUR BUTTHOLE!)

                                                                                                                                                                        It's called prison (and the insane asylum)....& no one has a weapon.....yet its the most dangerous place on earth hands down
                                                                                                                                                                        what about airports? They're one of the safest places in the world?

                                                                                                                                                                        + noone has a weapon in prison? What?!!
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                                                                                                                                                                          • lacuna
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                                                            • 1950
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Quagmire
                                                                                                                                                                            I think the problem lies with the assault rifles that are easily converted to full auto. Nobody can tell me there is any logical reason to own that beyond being paranoid about the government.
                                                                                                                                                                            Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

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