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  • tammix
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2006
    • 2164

    #1

    First time I try CCbill and...

    I see what you guys are saying in former threads, they stink in conversions... this program Im pushing just switched to CCBill as processor for some reason and sales went to zero. One week so far and zero. Nada.... lots of join submissions, zero sale conversion... what could be the reason?
  • The Porn Nerd
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    • Jun 2009
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    #2
    Which program and site is this?
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    • RyuLion
      • Mar 2003
      • 32365

      #3
      Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
      Which program and site is this?


      Don't blame it on the processor, what's your site? Is it responsive?

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      • ZENRA
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        • Sep 2016
        • 655

        #4
        It's hard to imagine an IPSP switch is the cause for a huge drop in sales (assuming everything is configured correctly).
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        • Axeman
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          • Feb 2004
          • 5201

          #5
          And what would you get usually in a week from them? Pushing enough consistent volume to get a fairly steady ratio and sales ratio with them before?
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          • wehateporn
            Promoting Debate on GFY
            • Apr 2007
            • 27176

            #6
            To be fair, they've had an insane scrub on the last month, will be better when things get back to normal

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            • bns666
              Confirmed Fetishist
              • Mar 2005
              • 11549

              #7
              Originally posted by RyuLion


              Don't blame it on the processor, what's your site? Is it responsive?
              yeah site being responsive or not could be the reason
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              • Fat Panda
                Porn is Dead. Move along.
                • Aug 2006
                • 13296

                #8
                ccbill has been a complete fucking joke for yrs

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                • celandina
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 11720

                  #9
                  I have a question... ( and do not get mad at me....)

                  "What has ANY processor to do with " submissions and conversions". I thought that they are processing CC payments, not driving traffic to your site...??"

                  WTF Am I missing here

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                  • SpicyM
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 4575

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bns666
                    yeah site being responsive or not could be the reason
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                    • TheDynasty
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                      #11
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                      • rayadp05
                        TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 4175

                        #12
                        My affiliates are doing just fine with conversions. The sales continue to flow in constantly and very steadily throughout the day and evening hours ...and every single and evening day too.
                        I've been with CCBILL for 13 years now, with no issues at all. If you ask me, it's the program and definitely not the billing processor. Otherwise, I have no idea why my affiliates are doing so well.

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                        • magneto664
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                          • Aug 2014
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                          #13
                          fuck ccbills and overpriced fees. never again!
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                          • NatalieK
                            Natalie K
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19828

                            #14
                            I suggest you stop wasting time & put a bit of faith into my site, send some traffic & start making money! My site this month has had much more traffic sent & this has been going on for months, sales going up & conversion rate coming down...

                            today, just checked just now & my sale to traffic ratio´s at 1:100 this month. One review site, I won´t name, unless they don´t mind has sent just over 500 unique hits & has 7 sales & there´s many more from tubes & free sites.

                            Please, don´t think about things, get on & let´s make some decent money!
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                            • ZENRA
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                              • Sep 2016
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by wehateporn
                              To be fair, they've had an insane scrub on the last month, will be better when things get back to normal
                              Declines from CCBill have been lower than normal if anything recently. Although processors probably do adjust their fraud controls regularly, I can't imagine it impacts sales at meaningful levels unless your target base are customers who mainly live in developing countries, have bizarre IP mismatches, use proxies when signing up, etc.
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                              • brassmonkey
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                                • Sep 2005
                                • 77385

                                #16
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                                • JuicyBunny
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jun 2010
                                  • 2145

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by tammix
                                  I see what you guys are saying in former threads, they stink in conversions... this program Im pushing just switched to CCBill as processor for some reason and sales went to zero. One week so far and zero. Nada.... lots of join submissions, zero sale conversion... what could be the reason?
                                  Not surprised.

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                                  • tammix
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2006
                                    • 2164

                                    #18
                                    the program I'm talking is TeenCash, more than a week and zero sales... probably since they changed processor (about 10 days ago) things went very bad
                                    I'm even thinking that there are actually sales processing but we affiliates are not being credited, I mailed titan this weekend hopefully getting an answer soon

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                                    • The Porn Nerd
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                                      #19
                                      How much traffic are you sending them?
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                                      • freecartoonporn
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                                        • Jan 2012
                                        • 7683

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by celandina
                                        I have a question... ( and do not get mad at me....)

                                        "What has ANY processor to do with " submissions and conversions". I thought that they are processing CC payments, not driving traffic to your site...??"

                                        WTF Am I missing here

                                        i can think of few things, like

                                        hard scrubbing .,
                                        means declining/rejecting card way too often , they have their reasons., like previously charge back customer, or so.

                                        ugly and slow join pages which loses surfer's trust .

                                        some other shit.


                                        check other ipsp 's join pages, they are fast, looks uptodate, and gains users trust .,
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                                        • mineistaken
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                                          • Apr 2007
                                          • 29656

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by wehateporn
                                          To be fair, they've had an insane scrub on the last month, will be better when things get back to normal
                                          As if you are "in the know"

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                                          • mineistaken
                                            See signature :)
                                            • Apr 2007
                                            • 29656

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by celandina
                                            I have a question... ( and do not get mad at me....)

                                            "What has ANY processor to do with " submissions and conversions". I thought that they are processing CC payments, not driving traffic to your site...??"

                                            WTF Am I missing here
                                            And he did not complain about not getting traffic to his site...

                                            Processor can not let conversions through (examples of shaving, declining cards or other reasons).

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                                            • mineistaken
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                                              • Apr 2007
                                              • 29656

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                              I suggest you stop wasting time & put a bit of faith into my site, send some traffic & start making money! My site this month has had much more traffic sent & this has been going on for months, sales going up & conversion rate coming down...

                                              today, just checked just now & my sale to traffic ratio´s at 1:100 this month. One review site, I won´t name, unless they don´t mind has sent just over 500 unique hits & has 7 sales & there´s many more from tubes & free sites.

                                              Please, don´t think about things, get on & let´s make some decent money!
                                              So your total ratio (including tubes and free sites) is 1:100, yet you mention 1:71 ratio as some sort of the winner?

                                              ps: I anticipate you won't understand what I mean here, so I will explain: total ratios are usually way worse than best ratios from review sites etc.

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                                              • mineistaken
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                                                • Apr 2007
                                                • 29656

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by tammix
                                                the program I'm talking is TeenCash, more than a week and zero sales... probably since they changed processor (about 10 days ago) things went very bad
                                                I'm even thinking that there are actually sales processing but we affiliates are not being credited, I mailed titan this weekend hopefully getting an answer soon
                                                You were asked and you ignored the question: how many sales did you used to get before that? Was it at least 10/week?

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                                                • NatalieK
                                                  Natalie K
                                                  • Apr 2010
                                                  • 19828

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                  So your total ratio (including tubes and free sites) is 1:100, yet you mention 1:71 ratio as some sort of the winner?

                                                  ps: I anticipate you won't understand what I mean here, so I will explain: total ratios are usually way worse than best ratios from review sites etc.
                                                  yes, our worse ratio is probably a free tgp style site, 1:500 or there about, our average this month was 1:100

                                                  not sure what´s so hard to understand

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                                                  • JuicyBunny
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jun 2010
                                                    • 2145

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by celandina
                                                    I have a question... ( and do not get mad at me....)

                                                    "What has ANY processor to do with " submissions and conversions". I thought that they are processing CC payments, not driving traffic to your site...??"

                                                    WTF Am I missing here
                                                    I think its more about the banks the processors are connected to. For programs I work with who have jumped from ccbill to say, vendo services I have seen a 15-20% jump in conversions. Vendo also offers regional pricing which may help but from my experience the banks being used can be a big issue provided everything else has remained the same.

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                                                    • wehateporn
                                                      Promoting Debate on GFY
                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                      • 27176

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                      As if you are "in the know"
                                                      I put 2 and 2 and 3 together, and made 9

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                                                      • wehateporn
                                                        Promoting Debate on GFY
                                                        • Apr 2007
                                                        • 27176

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by JuicyBunny
                                                        I think its more about the banks the processors are connected to. For programs I work with who have jumped from ccbill to say, vendo services I have seen a 15-20% jump in conversions. Vendo also offers regional pricing which may help but from my experience the banks being used can be a big issue provided everything else has remained the same.
                                                        I believe you're right, it's more to do with the banks themselves

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                                                        • Barry-xlovecam
                                                          It's 42
                                                          • Jun 2010
                                                          • 18083

                                                          #29
                                                          why don't you make some test buys?

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                                                          • SpeedoDave
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                            • 354

                                                            #30
                                                            Sounds like a setup issue - do a test join with your affiliate code and see if it comes through.

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                                                            • Mickey_
                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                              • 4238

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                              ...

                                                              Please, don´t think about things
                                                              ...
                                                              Sounds like a modus operandi.


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                                                              • SpicyM
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                • 4575

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                My site this month has had much more traffic sent & this has been going on for months

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                                                                • mineistaken
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                                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                                  • 29656

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                  yes, our worse ratio is probably a free tgp style site, 1:500 or there about, our average this month was 1:100

                                                                  not sure what´s so hard to understand

                                                                  Instead of nit picking, sign up and make some money, it´s the best thing to do
                                                                  It is hard to understand how come best ratio is so close to average ratio. Usually best ratio is MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better than average ratio.

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                                                                  • mineistaken
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                                                                    • Apr 2007
                                                                    • 29656

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                    I put 2 and 2 and 3 together, and made 9
                                                                    Thanks for at least admitting you were wrong.

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                                                                    • 2MuchMark
                                                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 50921

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by tammix
                                                                      I see what you guys are saying in former threads, they stink in conversions... this program Im pushing just switched to CCBill as processor for some reason and sales went to zero. One week so far and zero. Nada.... lots of join submissions, zero sale conversion... what could be the reason?
                                                                      Hi Tammix,

                                                                      You are making a huge mistake in blaming your payment processor for lack of conversions. I would urge you to look at your site, your sources and type of traffic, and for anything that may have changed recently before blaming the processor.

                                                                      If you're sure its CCBill, there's a very easy way to test them. Did you try signing up yourself? If it works, you know CCbill's working.

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                                                                      • wehateporn
                                                                        Promoting Debate on GFY
                                                                        • Apr 2007
                                                                        • 27176

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                        Thanks for at least admitting you were wrong.
                                                                        Us long-term affiliates have a pretty good idea of when there is some form of barrier getting in the way, we communicate with each other, compare ratios, it helps us to know when something is getting in the way. With investigation you can normally pinpoint the issue

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                                                                        • Google Expert
                                                                          Webmaster
                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                          • 14294

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by RyuLion


                                                                          Don't blame it on the processor, what's your site? Is it responsive?
                                                                          You fucking moron shill

                                                                          CCbill = shit.

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                                                                          • Google Expert
                                                                            Webmaster
                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                            • 14294

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                            today, just checked just now & my sale to traffic ratio´s at 1:100 this month.
                                                                            i'll PayPal you $1000 if you post proof of this.

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                                                                            • tammix
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                                              • 2164

                                                                              #39
                                                                              ok I just got today finally a sale, at least I know now we webmasters are being credited... hope as you guys say "its the banks" (oh I miss those days when they were more flexible!)

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                                                                              • mineistaken
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                                                                                • Apr 2007
                                                                                • 29656

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by tammix
                                                                                ok I just got today finally a sale, at least I know now we webmasters are being credited... hope as you guys say "its the banks" (oh I miss those days when they were more flexible!)
                                                                                For fucks sake, post how many sales did you used to have before ccbill.
                                                                                it is pointless to speculate withouth knowing sample size.
                                                                                If you were getting 3 sales a week and then 0 - it may be normal.
                                                                                If you were getting 30 sales week and then 0 - it is ccbill's fault.
                                                                                etc etc

                                                                                Don't you understand how crucial is this information?

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                                                                                • JSWENSON
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 3153

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by tammix
                                                                                  I see what you guys are saying in former threads, they stink in conversions... this program Im pushing just switched to CCBill as processor for some reason and sales went to zero. One week so far and zero. Nada.... lots of join submissions, zero sale conversion... what could be the reason?
                                                                                  CCBill has been hot garbage for well over a decade. Probably since forever.

                                                                                  Originally posted by RyuLion


                                                                                  Don't blame it on the processor, what's your site? Is it responsive?
                                                                                  Don't blame it on the processor unless it's CCBill. 1,000,000 apologists will not make CCBill not a no converting piece of fuck.

                                                                                  Originally posted by ZENRA
                                                                                  It's hard to imagine an IPSP switch is the cause for a huge drop in sales (assuming everything is configured correctly).
                                                                                  Really? It's hard to imagine that different card acceptance criteria could possibly change conversions? Or switching to the absolute shittiest processor in terms of getting a sale from credit card to affiliate payout?

                                                                                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                  To be fair, they've had an insane scrub on the last month, will be better when things get back to normal
                                                                                  They've had an insane scrub for 10+ years. Putting that 15% to good use, they need another plane.

                                                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                  My affiliates are doing just fine with conversions. The sales continue to flow in constantly and very steadily throughout the day and evening hours ...and every single and evening day too.
                                                                                  I've been with CCBILL for 13 years now, with no issues at all. If you ask me, it's the program and definitely not the billing processor. Otherwise, I have no idea why my affiliates are doing so well.
                                                                                  Nothing to see here folks, this idiots affiliates are doing fine. Please ignore the 10,000 "CCBill doesn't fucking convert" threads, common sense and all rational thought.

                                                                                  Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                                  For fucks sake, post how many sales did you used to have before ccbill.

                                                                                  Don't you understand how crucial is this information?
                                                                                  Doesn't really make a fuck when there is data going back a decade of shit going to fuck on CCBill. Remember that time they "fixed" the "bug" where you could see who was cutting off commissions after 1 month?

                                                                                  LOL

                                                                                  FUCK CCBILL

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                                                                                  • nikki99
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                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                    • 23072

                                                                                    #42
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                                                                                    • tammix
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                                                      • 2164

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by nikki99
                                                                                      hello tammix
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