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  • webmasterchecks
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2006
    • 1685
    #101
    tough spot for all to be in

    my thoughts are that verotel should engage in talks with their upstream, show them the position they are in (assuming it was the upstream and not a technical issue)

    perhaps they can waive a small portion of their fees and some of that can be passed onto the client to help with the affiliate payment issues
    Last edited by webmasterchecks; 02-16-2009, 02:14 PM.
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      • Nicky
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2003
        • 30071
        #102
        101 sales too much paid

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          • Kinky John
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2005
            • 655
            #103
            Originally posted by SweetT
            Based on what I am reading some of you believe that he should pay the money back to Verotel (and I am OK with that) but based on that theory I also assume it is OK for him to then deduct what he paid to his affiliates back from their payouts for those same transactions since they were overpaid, as well...right?

            I mean whats good for the goose is good for the gander, right?


            --T
            i agree SweetT.. in an ideal world

            think it varies depending on individual attitudes to accounting

            look at the stats/books monthly - we were fucked royally

            but look at them annually - its just Verotel end of year balancing

            when is a payout a payout ? when is the money safe to spend ?

            let's be clear they guarantee it won't happen again.. so here's hoping


            as an aside:

            Verotel rep asked me if there was anything she could do
            to "ease our pain" ( so to speak ) so i asked her to spread
            this debit over future months.. received apologetic "no"

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              • Kimmykim
                bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                • Jun 2001
                • 16015
                #104
                This isn't any different than a check sale in the US -- however, if Verotel did not make sure they were being paid for the amount of sales they were recording, that is a Verotel screwup, and if it took them a full year to figure it out, well that's even more of a screwup.

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                  • MsCheyenne
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 412
                    #105
                    Originally posted by socalkev
                    When most people say "by the balls" they are speaking figuratively. You mean it!
                    Yes, well, I would like very much to have cc merchants by the balls in real time. I'd make them be nicer to all us. ;-)

                    Cheyenne

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                      • pocketkangaroo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 8452
                        #106
                        In this situation, I think it's Verotels problem, not his. The situation sucks for everyone involved but BOSS1 had nothing to do with the error. He built his business around the money he was being told was processed. Verotel should eat it or go after the bank for it. I would not pay a dime back and would seek a new processor immediately.

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                          • BOSS1
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 4331
                            #107
                            Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                            In this situation, I think it's Verotels problem, not his. The situation sucks for everyone involved but BOSS1 had nothing to do with the error. He built his business around the money he was being told was processed. Verotel should eat it or go after the bank for it. I would not pay a dime back and would seek a new processor immediately.
                            The problem is they still have our rebills, like I said we dont do alot of transactions through them anyway but this sucks none the less.

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                              • pocketkangaroo
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 8452
                                #108
                                Originally posted by BOSS1
                                The problem is they still have our rebills, like I said we dont do alot of transactions through them anyway but this sucks none the less.
                                That really sucks then. I guess you're doing the right thing though by going through an attorney. If anything, this should be a nice warning for those who consider using Verotel in the future.

                                Best of luck.

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                                  • spunky99
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 3462
                                    #109
                                    wow that sucks.. gotta wonder how many others are being effected by this

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                                      • baddog
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 107089
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by SweetT
                                        Based on what I am reading some of you believe that he should pay the money back to Verotel (and I am OK with that) but based on that theory I also assume it is OK for him to then deduct what he paid to his affiliates back from their payouts for those same transactions since they were overpaid, as well...right?

                                        I mean whats good for the goose is good for the gander, right?


                                        --T
                                        Absolutely. Of course, it will be a little difficult to take installments as most probably won't hang out after the first month.

                                        Situation sucks to be sure.

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                                          • ExLust
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2008
                                            • 3223
                                            #111
                                            Whew! That totally sucks.

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                                              • BOSS1
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2005
                                                • 4331
                                                #112
                                                So far we are negotiating and it looks good. I can not go into details but they are acting pretty good so far.

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                                                  • Bladewire
                                                    StraightBro
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 56220
                                                    #113
                                                    Bumpity bump bump


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                                                      • Sausage
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 3012
                                                        #114
                                                        Yep same thing happened to me here. Around $10k worth too ... and its been 2 months of 0 payments with no end in sight. Great way to do business.
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                                                          • Shoplifter
                                                            Richest man in Babylon
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 5867
                                                            #115
                                                            Unless you received money in error above your listed payout it's difficult to see how it's your fault after all this time.

                                                            Verotel should be going after their banks or insurance on this. Even mentioning it is just going to destroy confidence with their clients.

                                                            So far I haven't heard anything about this, but if I had to deal with this on top of the other issues like their backend and $1000 Mastercard fee I would absolutely peak. We are working like dogs these days and this is not a welcome event.
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                                                              • PAR
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2005
                                                                • 1835
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                                it seems a lot of you are not reading this correctly so I'll try to paint a picture.
                                                                Player 1: Boss1
                                                                Player 2: Verotel
                                                                Player 3: Bank (from what i can understand a German Bank that handles Direct Debit payments)

                                                                1) Player 1 sends transaction request to Player 2.
                                                                2) Player 2 queries transaction with Player 3.
                                                                3) Player 3 passes transaction and postbacks go through, member is added to Player 1's site access list and all relevant successful join info is posted to stats areas on Player 2's site.

                                                                Fastforward a year and Player 3 goes back to Player 2 and says, "We forgot to post chargebacks and credits to you for the past 12 months.

                                                                At this stage, both Player 1 and Player 2's books and accounting will show that the payments are correct for the number of joins. So how is this Boss1's problem? How exactly do any of you feel he should have known about this? He was not overpaid in the true sense of the word whereby he was meant to get $1000 but got $1500 instead. This is not what happened. What happened was he was meant to get $1000, and DID get $1000. A year later, the bank informs Verotel that credits and chargebacks were not accounted for because they never posted them so instead of being paid $1000, Boss1 should have been paid $500.

                                                                Not Boss1's fault, nor do I believe it is Verotel's fault, I'm just amused that many of you think he (Boss1) could have spotted something like this in his general accounting.
                                                                Exactly how I read it...
                                                                Very Fucked... This is why people have contracts and lawyers.. It's not right that Boss1 should have to take 100% of the hit on this one.. After all he paid for a service and part of this service should be to stop issues like this from happening...

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                                                                  • bobby666
                                                                    boots are my religion
                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                    • 21765
                                                                    #117
                                                                    just got this mail from a verotal site owner:
                                                                    You are receiving this email because you signed up as a reseller for xxxxxxxxxx.com.

                                                                    Due to a very high rate of fraudulent transactions we have decided to discontinue the revenue sharing program. You will continue to receive commissions for recurring current subscriptions but new subscriptions cannot be made using the reseller linkage. You should remove all links and promotional material for the site immediately.

                                                                    We may re-activate the program using a different credit card processor at a later time. If we do we will email you sign up information for the new program.

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                                                                      • Bladewire
                                                                        StraightBro
                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                        • 56220
                                                                        #118
                                                                        So what was the outcome here?


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                                                                          • xxxdesign-net
                                                                            My hips don't lie
                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                            • 10129
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by bobby666
                                                                            just got this mail from a verotal site owner:
                                                                            You are receiving this email because you signed up as a reseller for xxxxxxxxxx.com.

                                                                            Due to a very high rate of fraudulent transactions we have decided to discontinue the revenue sharing program. You will continue to receive commissions for recurring current subscriptions but new subscriptions cannot be made using the reseller linkage. You should remove all links and promotional material for the site immediately.

                                                                            We may re-activate the program using a different credit card processor at a later time. If we do we will email you sign up information for the new program.
                                                                            Could have been a ccbill site owner.... I dont have a problem with fraudulent transactions or chargebacks..

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                                                                              • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                My hips don't lie
                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                • 10129
                                                                                #120
                                                                                People have been predicting that verotel would crash and burn since 2002 (at least) and they are still there sending checks every weeks, never missing one... How many have crashed and burned since 2002? The issue here is that the company handling debit card transaction screwed them... Should we pay for it? I dont think so... But supposedly, Verotel is confident to recover that money owed... we'll see..

                                                                                Debit transaction represent 1 or 2% of my transactions in total.. so i wont have a melt down over it and act like the sky is falling...
                                                                                Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 02-18-2009, 11:33 AM.

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                                                                                  • mike741
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                    • 229
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    hey, please contact me on ICQ 278647925 - the same shit here - but i can tell you my expirence

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                                                                                      • clarkkent
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Feb 2009
                                                                                        • 21
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        I got the same email. I know other webmasters who use them and some got it some didn't. Maybe they are not contacting everybody at once.

                                                                                        In my case they are asking for 100% (!) of Direct Debit EU transactions in 2008 (not a huge amount since Verotel is my secondary processor and DDEU is a small % of the total). I did a report on DDEU transactions in 2008 and the amount matches exactly what Verotel is asking for. So I don't think it's just chargebacks unless every single transaction (178 of them) got charged back. They said they will keep my holdback, and take $100/week out of my rebills until it's paid off ! I told them what I thought about it and they said they will give me a call to negotiate.

                                                                                        Disgraceful way to treat your customers, even if they do offer come concessions once you complain. I guess they might have small print that lets them do it but why would anybody use a company like that. They are gone from my sites that's for sure.

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                                                                                          • Bladewire
                                                                                            StraightBro
                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                            • 56220
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Has anyone gotten an accounting of all the DDEU sales that Verotel wants to be credited for or at minimum the name of the German bank that has caused this problem?


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                                                                                              • clarkkent
                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                • Feb 2009
                                                                                                • 21
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                nope, they said they will send it. they offered to reduce the amount by about 20%. still no explanation how come 100% of DDEU transactions apparently were chargebacks

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                                                                                                  • Dennis69
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                                    • 1685
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    I got the email for this last week... emailed back and just waiting to see how it works out for others! I donb't think it should be our loss for there fuck up!!!
                                                                                                    HaHaHa

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                                                                                                      • Shoplifter
                                                                                                        Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                                        • 5867
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Is CC processing still continuing? Over the past couple of days our Verotel signups plummeted.
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                                                                                                          • BOSS1
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                                                            • 4331
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            They are not accepting responsibility and are acting very pushy. Not really willing to negotiate fairly... They want me to pay 80% for their error.

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                                                                                                              • tony299
                                                                                                                lurker
                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                • 57021
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                its fucked up also based on the number they gave me that means like 90 percent got free use of my site because their direct debit product must have no filtering what so ever. To owe 1089 on 1300 of sales that's ridiculous.They offered me a deal and said they are working on getting the break down to me. it all smells very fishy to me.

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                                                                                                                  • dig420
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                                    • 9240
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                                                    That is why you have accountants on payroll.
                                                                                                                    Sounds to me like the numbers are correct, but Verotel is claiming they didn't get paid on the backend so they're trying to take back the money they correctly paid him on the frontend.

                                                                                                                    Why are you being such a defensive force for Verotel? You like it when webmasters get fucked or something, as long as it's not you?

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                                                                                                                      • dig420
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                                                        • 9240
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        I dropped Verotel several years ago after they fucked me over on some deal or other, don't even remember the details. They suck.

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                                                                                                                          • BOSS1
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                            • 4331
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                                                            Sounds to me like the numbers are correct, but Verotel is claiming they didn't get paid on the backend so they're trying to take back the money they correctly paid him on the frontend.

                                                                                                                            Why are you being such a defensive force for Verotel? You like it when webmasters get fucked or something, as long as it's not you?
                                                                                                                            I tried not to respond to him as much as possible because he does not bother reading or understanding he is just here for sig placement.

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                                                                                                                              • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                • 32451
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Verotel fucked me for about $760 once... I don't push anything Verotel anymore.

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                                                                                                                                  • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 32451
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Ohh.. and Verotel is hackable... and they are fucking idiots... Back when I first learned of the company I tried working with them to turn it into something viable and it looked like they wanted to. Then they suddenly pulled out of the deal and just kept going on in the same lame ass direction they have been going in...

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                                                                                                                                      • clarkkent
                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2009
                                                                                                                                        • 21
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                        their direct debit product must have no filtering what so ever. To owe 1089 on 1300 of sales that's ridiculous.
                                                                                                                                        my case is similar and doesn't make sense. how come 90% (in my case close to 100%) of DD transactions ended up being chargebacks in the first place? with other payment options it's less than 1%.

                                                                                                                                        there is a piece of the story that's missing here
                                                                                                                                        Last edited by clarkkent; 02-19-2009, 01:27 PM.

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                                                                                                                                          • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                            I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                            • 39861
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            i cannot understand how a billing company can pay out money for a year that they claim they never got. chargebacks or cancellations would happen within days or at least weeks, not 12 months later. and i would like to see that accountant that continues to pay out money without noticing that nothing comes in

                                                                                                                                            plus the fact that most of you granted access for those accounts AND paid out your affiliates.

                                                                                                                                            as long it's not 50 bucks i would definitely get a lawyer and insist that they are responsible for the damage. too bad that they sit on the money and the rebills - but it should be a warning sign for everyone who does (or wants to do) business with them
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                                                                                                                                              • Kinky John
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                • 655
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                never got the latest email about reseller prog .. that's very fucked up, just signed a bunch

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                                                                                                                                                  • Kinky John
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                    • 655
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    2 separate issues in this thread now..

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                                                                                                                                                      • The Duck
                                                                                                                                                        Adult Content Provider
                                                                                                                                                        • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                        • 18243
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        I feel that it is Verotel who made a big mistake and it is their problem to deal with it. I cant believe they are asking you to resolve the situation.
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                                                                                                                                                          • clarkkent
                                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2009
                                                                                                                                                            • 21
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            another thing, what happens with verotel fees charged on these transactions (14% or whatever). it doesn't seem like those were deducted since the figure they are asking for is already almost 100% of DDU transactions (before the verotel fee). is it possible that they are actually intending to keep their own fees while reversing the transactions on which those fees were based?

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                                                                                                                                                              • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                                                Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                • 5867
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Kinky John
                                                                                                                                                                never got the latest email about reseller prog .. that's very fucked up, just signed a bunch
                                                                                                                                                                Can you explain more about this? What email about resellers?
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 32189
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Any idea when these issues will be resolved?

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                                                                                                                                                                      • Kinky John
                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                        • 655
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        it has to be said, its not ALL bad things with Verotel

                                                                                                                                                                        shit happens, companies learn, improve their services as a result

                                                                                                                                                                        we won't drop them over this

                                                                                                                                                                        but i do question the clawing back of cash from a previous year

                                                                                                                                                                        on a balance sheet there's no harm done.. but in practice it was different

                                                                                                                                                                        can't help feeling the buck was simply passed back down from the germans..

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Kinky John
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                            • 655
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            bumping off to bed with the official Verotel line @ Cpanel
                                                                                                                                                                            so this is pretty much straight from the horses mouth..

                                                                                                                                                                            Dear Customer,

                                                                                                                                                                            Please note that you may see some additional credits to your account in your invoice. This is due to a complete reconciliation of our DDEU transactions which indicated that a number of transactions which were paid out to you in previous invoices were in fact not collected or reversed by our banks and processing partners. These transactions were subsequently never settled and not paid to Verotel. We have cancelled any users associated with these credits and appreciate your understanding in this reconciliation process.

                                                                                                                                                                            Verotel Management
                                                                                                                                                                            as i say, can't fault Verotel for much else yet apart from this

                                                                                                                                                                            although recently i've wondered about their holdback system..

                                                                                                                                                                            peace

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                                                                                                                                                                              • clarkkent
                                                                                                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                • 21
                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Kinky John

                                                                                                                                                                                on a balance sheet there's no harm done.. but in practice it was different

                                                                                                                                                                                peace
                                                                                                                                                                                not really. a transaction has two sides but only one side is being reversed. we provided content, bandwidth, support etc for those members for free. we also paid verotel's fees for these transaction which they are keeping, and some of us paid affiliates as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Kinky John

                                                                                                                                                                                as i say, can't fault Verotel for much else yet apart from this
                                                                                                                                                                                what more do you need? sure it would be worse if they ripped off their clients every day but once is enough for me. its not about making a mistake, it's about how they handled it.
                                                                                                                                                                                Last edited by clarkkent; 02-19-2009, 04:42 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Indecisive
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 53
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Strange, I did a bunch of DDEU transaction with Verotel in 2008 but haven't received any email from them, nor does my control panel show the notice that Kinky John is getting. The total value of my transactions is only about $1,000, so maybe they decided to go after the bigger fish first.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Nothing surprises me with Verotel anymore. Back in September of '08, Verotel declined 42 of my transactions in a row over a 36 hour period. Eventually they responded with an explanation that their connection to their bank was down for 8 hours which caused some of the declines. The rest of the transactions (35 in all) were declined by the bank, with this message: "It is not possible to book the given amount from the credit account, e.g. limit is exceeded.". 35 separate customers in a row, all declined legitimately? What are the odds of that?

                                                                                                                                                                                    In November of 2008, a "power outage in their system" caused them to refund a number of customer purchases. Supposedly they couldn't add the joins to my password files. I was online at the time and was able to add the customers manually through the Verotel control panel just fine. Bad enough I lost the sales to a power failure (how a large internet billing company doesn't have their systems protected from power failures is beyond me), but to add insult to injury they refused to credit back the processing fees to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Like I said, nothing surprises me with Verotel anymore.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by Indecisive; 02-19-2009, 05:02 PM.
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 51692
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SweetT
                                                                                                                                                                                        Based on what I am reading some of you believe that he should pay the money back to Verotel (and I am OK with that) but based on that theory I also assume it is OK for him to then deduct what he paid to his affiliates back from their payouts for those same transactions since they were overpaid, as well...right?

                                                                                                                                                                                        I mean whats good for the goose is good for the gander, right?


                                                                                                                                                                                        --T
                                                                                                                                                                                        The problem there is that if he takes the same payment methods as them for his big affiliates, they might just leave ship and he'll endup never seeing a dime of what he paid out.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                                                                                                        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Indecisive
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 53
                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Looks like Verotel went after their European customers first:

                                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=868690
                                                                                                                                                                                            ICQ: 334404605

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Kinky John
                                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 655
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by clarkkent
                                                                                                                                                                                                we provided content, bandwidth, support etc for those members for free.
                                                                                                                                                                                                very good point, it was late when i posted, obviously wasn't thinking straight,
                                                                                                                                                                                                the DD members concerned did indeed have full access to all our resources
                                                                                                                                                                                                during that period, so you are correct, that in itself was effectively a loss..

                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by clarkkent
                                                                                                                                                                                                we also paid verotel's fees for these transaction which they are keeping, and some of us paid affiliates as well.
                                                                                                                                                                                                as i said, during this period the vast majority of our sales were in-house generated,
                                                                                                                                                                                                already agreed i would be very pissed off had we paid a chunk out to affiliates..

                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by clarkkent
                                                                                                                                                                                                what more do you need? sure it would be worse if they ripped off their clients every day but once is enough for me. its not about making a mistake, it's about how they handled it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                i'm not denying it stinks a bit.. but i don't wanna make too many waves
                                                                                                                                                                                                until i can get a replacement / secondary processor set-up, dig ? ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 5867
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Kinky John can you hit me on ICQ if you have time? 88-05-05

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Many thanks.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • BOSS1
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 4331
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        still pissed and will be if they make me pay for their fuckups

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