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  • Machete_
    WINNING!
    • Oct 2002
    • 14579

    #51
    50 .... look at MEEEEe

    Last edited by Machete_; 02-19-2009, 10:58 AM.

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    • wjxxx
      So Fucking Banned
      • Feb 2005
      • 4448

      #52
      I think it`s time for FBI. These carding crooks need to be jailed and assfucked by nignogs

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      • shunga
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2001
        • 994

        #53
        Originally posted by KevinConverts
        I'm not going to address the wild conspiracy theories that seem to never end on this board. All I will say is we have nothing to do with ArchiveCash, IncredibleDollars or any adult company for that matter.
        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=34
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        • fatfoo
          ICQ:649699063
          • Mar 2003
          • 27763

          #54
          Originally posted by PR_Tom
          Send me an email: [email protected]

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          • fusionx
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2003
            • 4618

            #55
            I'd love to see Kevin respond and explain this.

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            • shunga
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2001
              • 994

              #56
              Originally posted by fusionx
              I'd love to see Kevin respond and explain this.
              It's the "rouge owner" defence. These companies have quite a high management turnover.
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              • AnniKN
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2008
                • 1682

                #57
                Originally posted by PR_Dave
                Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

                Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

                Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

                That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.
                What I am going to say will sound absolutely horrible but... did you by any chance sign up to one of your own sites and took the xsales?

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                • john_63
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 517

                  #58
                  bad roboform. very bad

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                  • john_63
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 517

                    #59

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                    • NicelyWritten
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 161

                      #60
                      This is complete bullshit. I hope you get reimbursed like you were promised. Do you think anyone affected by something like this will ever signup on a paysite again?
                      Nicely Written
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                      • PR_Dave
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 2792

                        #61
                        Originally posted by AnniKN
                        did you by any chance sign up to one of your own sites and took the xsales?
                        There is only 1 x-sell and it goes to our own product.

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                        • fusionx
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 4618

                          #62
                          Originally posted by shunga
                          It's the "rouge owner" defence. These companies have quite a high management turnover.
                          I've got a feeling there will be more turnover coming soon.

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                          • V_RocKs
                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 32451

                            #63
                            Dave, come on man! You need to quit getting so drunk that you don't remember pulling out your card in the middle of the night.

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                            • AnniKN
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1682

                              #64
                              Originally posted by PR_Dave
                              There is only 1 x-sell and it goes to our own product.
                              Ok, just checking - because I got screwed over once after signing up to one of your sites (AdultElite actually, PunkRockGirlfriend). I had about 5 xsales all of which I cancelled, yet I got to a fake cancellation page for Brazzers with no confirmation, and another cancellation page WITH confirmation, that was still open as "open gateway for delayed settlement", 5 months later.

                              Also, there was a charge for 39.95 to eelimite.com around 4 months after said sign up - on the day before said domain was even registered (a domain harvester registered the domain after a lot of people were googling for that term because they had been scammed too). And the only other places where I had used that card had been domain registrars, and content stores that have been years in the business.

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                              • dial
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2006
                                • 1225

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                Why would he do that? Are you accusing him of some sort of reverse psychology spam? Like a "Other sites are crooked but not us" type spam? I don't think he'd do that.

                                But I am confused as to why he hasn't gotten a new card. I lost my American Express Platinum card at AVN. I called them. They immediately cancelled that card number, and then overnighted me a new card with a new number. I also don't understand why he doesn't just hit the chargeback on them. That's the best way to fuck someone that tried to take your money on your card without your authorization.

                                Go get 'em PR Dave! Charge back on those motherfuckers and get you a new card bro. Problem solved.
                                my point was he purposely signed up for one paysite to see how many times his card got charged, and he has been reporting it on the boards for quite some time now

                                so, yes, he purposely signed up to create board drama against the companies that are trying to scam him
                                boom chicka wah wah

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                                • DarkJedi
                                  No Refunds Issued.
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 28301

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                  Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

                                  Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

                                  Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

                                  That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.
                                  That's ArchiveCash

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                                  • pamon
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2007
                                    • 3113

                                    #67
                                    exiting archivecash... stage right snagglepuss
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                                    • angelsofporn
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 3218

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by dial
                                      my point was he purposely signed up for one paysite to see how many times his card got charged, and he has been reporting it on the boards for quite some time now

                                      so, yes, he purposely signed up to create board drama against the companies that are trying to scam him
                                      In addition to this, Dave knows the real story here, but is milking it for everything it's worth because he believes any bad publicity for other programs is good publicity for his own. Maybe one day Dave can come clean on this whole thing.

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                                      • PR_Dave
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 2792

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by angelsofporn
                                        In addition to this, Dave knows the real story here.
                                        And that is?

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                                        • PR_Dave
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 2792

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by AnniKN
                                          Ok, just checking - because I got screwed over once after signing up to one of your sites (AdultElite actually, PunkRockGirlfriend).
                                          There was a small period of time we sent our x-sells to Brazzers. I can't speak for how they conduct their business.

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                                          • dial
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2006
                                            • 1225

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by angelsofporn
                                            In addition to this, Dave knows the real story here, but is milking it for everything it's worth because he believes any bad publicity for other programs is good publicity for his own. Maybe one day Dave can come clean on this whole thing.
                                            obviously there is no "real story" or you would have explained that further
                                            boom chicka wah wah

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                                            • angelsofporn
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 3218

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                              And that is?
                                              That's your job not mine. No such thing as bad publicity... is there Dave?

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                                              • AnniKN
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2008
                                                • 1682

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                There was a small period of time we sent our x-sells to Brazzers. I can't speak for how they conduct their business.
                                                I'm not saying it was Brazzers who screwed me over nor that you are in on it in any way... although you must admit that xselling to companies that "you don't know how they conduct their business" is irresponsible...

                                                What I am saying is that there was a big number of crosssales on that sign up, including cancel form xsales and xsales at entry to the member's area, and that at least one of them must have been responsible for the bogus charge and the open settlement thing down the line. I cancelled that card so I am unable to verify whether there were more charges. My whole point was just that if you accepted a xsale at that sign up you made in August, you could be still getting banged by xsales of xsales of that program.
                                                Last edited by AnniKN; 02-19-2009, 12:46 PM.

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                                                • PR_Dave
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 2792

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by AnniKN
                                                  Ialthough you must admit that xselling to companies that "you don't know how they conduct their business" is irresponsible...
                                                  That is why we are 100% internal. Trust in b2b is not there anymore.

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                                                  • Mutt
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 34431

                                                    #75
                                                    LOL @ the people who think Dave is joining porn sites to get his rocks off, he owns a hundred or so sites with great content he can rub one out to if he wants to. he no doubt like other webmasters has done an experiment with a card of his own to see just how nasty and criminal some programs have become.

                                                    this shit isn't just shady - it's fucking criminal - somebody's going to jail eventually.

                                                    ol' Diamond Jim is doing how many months/years in a federal prison? he played the game and lost - one or two of these current clowns will do serious jail time down the road as well but most will walk away free and easy with millions in the bank.
                                                    I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                    • mpahlca
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 1821

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by potter
                                                      Dave,

                                                      Please. Find out all the information you can. Bundle it up into a very nice package. And send it to the FBI.

                                                      I'm not kidding. This shit will never get solved on the boards. These people need to be investigated through a federal agency with international reach.

                                                      http://www.fbi.gov/contactus.htm - they're available for you 24/7

                                                      No offense intended but how does a Canadian benefit from the FBI?
                                                      I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                      • Dirty F
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 59204

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Robbie
                                                        Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over? You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

                                                        Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

                                                        Simple steps, save you time and board drama
                                                        Wow, first time in a thread like this where you aren't defending the scammers. Amazing.

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                                                        • Dirty F
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 59204

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                          Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over? You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

                                                          Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

                                                          Simple steps, save you time and board drama
                                                          Actually i read that wrong. You ARE defending the scammers...as usual.

                                                          So no suprise here.

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                                                          • Dirty F
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 59204

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by ebus_dk
                                                            if you want to see something funny, you should google some of the lines of text on the site, and see how many sites use the same text... like http://www.livemembersupport.com (wow - http://www.nichepay.com - what a surprice) and many more

                                                            If you then track emails and phonecalls, you will start to see a pattern
                                                            Nichepay is Archivecash right?

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                                                            • Dirty F
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 59204

                                                              #80
                                                              I really fucking wonder why Robbie is attracted to these threads like flies to shit so he can defend the scammers and scum. He almost does it blindly. Like it doesn't even matter who the scammers are and what they did, he will be in that thread asap to defend them. It's really REALLY weird behaviour and i really wonder why he does that. I can only think of one explanation and that is that he might be involved in this shit himself. What possible other reason could there be for his behaviour?

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                                                              • Due
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                • 3620

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Robbie

                                                                Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.
                                                                I would consider it a potential problem working in an industry that I don't trust well enough to buy something from
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                                                                • potter
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 6559

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by mpahlca
                                                                  No offense intended but how does a Canadian benefit from the FBI?
                                                                  Benefit? Well I don't think there is a reward or anything.... So maybe the satisfaction of knowing they'll get caught?

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                                                                  • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                    North Coast Pimp
                                                                    • Dec 2005
                                                                    • 9395

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                    Dave, come on man! You need to quit getting so drunk that you don't remember pulling out your card in the middle of the night.
                                                                    Sorry but,

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                                                                    • pocketkangaroo
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                      • 8452

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                      Nichepay is Archivecash right?
                                                                      Nothing is connected man, it's all Roboforms fault.

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                                                                      • AdultEUhost
                                                                        ORLY?
                                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                                        • 2579

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Ross
                                                                        Are you really that dumb? Everyone on GFY knows you only have to sign up to the wrong site and your CC will be hammered multiple times. This seems to be another case of this.

                                                                        I see you still try to make excuses for these type of companies tho Robbie.
                                                                        yo ross, when are you coming over again? that waitress is still waiting for your call, that stripper also btw
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                                                                        • Dirty F
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 59204

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by angelsofporn
                                                                          This has nothing to do with Archivecash etc. We do not own this domain or have anything to do with it at all. For the record.


                                                                          Everytime time there's a thread about these punks at least 1 of them comes to the boards to....lie

                                                                          Because that makes things better

                                                                          The problem is the clusterfuck is so big they don't know anymore what to lie about and what not.

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                                                                          • Ross
                                                                            Ik ben een aap
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 18874

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by AdultEUhost
                                                                            yo ross, when are you coming over again? that waitress is still waiting for your call, that stripper also btw
                                                                            LOL

                                                                            I'll try get back down to NYC soon. Hopefully April time

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                                                                            • Huggles
                                                                              GFY'S #1 retard
                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 12560

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                              I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.


                                                                              The big money is in cross sales. Haven't you learned anything? ;)
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                                                                              • VIPimp
                                                                                Marina WILL have my babies!
                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 9234

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by angelsofporn
                                                                                In addition to this, Dave knows the real story here, but is milking it for everything it's worth because he believes any bad publicity for other programs is good publicity for his own. Maybe one day Dave can come clean on this whole thing.
                                                                                You might want to check your join page, might be a error... seems both your prechecked xsells are for the same site but just different domain names... on the same join form.
                                                                                Last edited by VIPimp; 02-19-2009, 06:36 PM.

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                                                                                • DWB
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 31779

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Huggles
                                                                                  The big money is in cross sales. Haven't you learned anything? ;)
                                                                                  Guess you haven't been around long. Dave used to x-sale with others just the same. I guess he too got burned enough to take them all internal. Wise move.

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                                                                                  • Sausage
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                    • 3012

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Oh its the guys behind trannypay ? That explains everything. Biggest crooks on the net.
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                                                                                    • Dirty F
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 59204

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by VIPimp
                                                                                      You might want to check your join page, might be a error... seems both your prechecked xsells are for the same site but just different domain names... on the same join form.
                                                                                      Everything that looks different with their sites is usually to fuck over the surfer more easily so i guess this is no error.

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                                                                                      • Dirty F
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                        • 59204

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        All we need now to get this thread complete is DJ the kid in here fucking things up even worse. Can't wait for that moron to cause another trainwreck.

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                                                                                        • Dirty F
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 59204

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          edit.....

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                                                                                          • Dirty F
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 59204

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Roald
                                                                                            Hey Kevin, I know you must be extremely busy but I am still waiting for that affiliate info you were going to send me. Remember, the one you canned from your program for fraudulent CC charges!!

                                                                                            In case you forgot (what else could it be) please send it to roald @t freeones dot com

                                                                                            Thnx
                                                                                            I just heard that this Kevin guy doesn't even exist so that would certainly explain things

                                                                                            I can't confirm this but it certainly wouldn't surprise me.

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                                                                                            • Huggles
                                                                                              GFY'S #1 retard
                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 12560

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              The affiliates, performers, and customers... everyone gets fucked in adult.
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                                                                                              • PR_Dave
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                • 2792

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                4 charges on my CC from outsidebills.com

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                                                                                                • Dirty F
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 59204

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                                                  4 charges on my CC from outsidebills.com


                                                                                                  This shit is crazy. It just goes on and on.

                                                                                                  Give it a hour or so and one of their fake nicks or maybe a real rep will be here to tell you they have nothing to do with it...it's just their site but not really their site because someone else regged it and he doesn't work there anymore they just keep using that name because someone else has a site that is related to it but not really because roboform accidentally bought it and the sales rep who doesn't really exist is fired but also hired again at the sister company that is not their sister company and nobody knows eachother there and nobody works together and no sites are connected whatsoever...or something like that.

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                                                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                    • 59204

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    I just realized i'm not allowed to talk about this anymore so i goodbye maybe...

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                                                                                                    • BradM
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                      • 3397

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                                                      4 charges on my CC from outsidebills.com
                                                                                                      You're CBing every single one, correct?

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