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  • 2MuchMark
    Mark of 2Much.net
    • Aug 2004
    • 50991
    #1

    Thanks Global Warming deniers

    Thanks Global Warming deniers

    It's 32 celcius / 90 degrees Farenheit (adopt the metric system already!) today here, on September 26h, in Montreal, in freakin' CANADA. And it has been this hot for almost the past 2 weeks.

    You've ruined everything. Goodbye.
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    • SpicyM
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2006
      • 4575
      #2
      no sig, sorry

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        • Barry-xlovecam
          It's 42
          • Jun 2010
          • 18083
          #3
          Five days of a very hot Indian Summer just south of you a bit. Last day of heat today then back to normality. Unusual -- granted.

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            • tfto
              Retired and loving life.
              • Sep 2001
              • 2122
              #4
              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
              Thanks Global Warming deniers

              It's 32 celcius / 90 degrees Farenheit (adopt the metric system already!) today here, on September 26h, in Montreal, in freakin' CANADA. And it has been this hot for almost the past 2 weeks.

              You've ruined everything. Goodbye.
              Look at the upside. A couple more weeks of hot Canadian chicks in shorts and tank tops!...Sounds like you need to drink more beer to stay cool.. Eh?.

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                • CaptainHowdy
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 94744
                  #5
                  Originally posted by tfto
                  Look at the upside. A couple more weeks of hot Canadian chicks in shorts and tank tops!...Sounds like you need to drink more beer to stay cool.. Eh?.
                  Good thinking ...

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                    • Rochard
                      Jägermeister Test Pilot
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 75733
                      #6
                      Have the igloos all melted yet?
                      Herschel Savage
                      Brooklyn, NY

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942
                          #7
                          These are all you need to know.







                          The problem is made worse by population growth.





                          Thommy thinks the solution is education.



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                            • Barry-xlovecam
                              It's 42
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 18083
                              #8
                              Look at all the Canadian visitors I had on my lawn last week.



                              Business as usual flying South for the winter ...

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                                • Fat Panda
                                  Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 13296
                                  #9
                                  montreal roughly same latitude as minneapolis

                                  in winnipeg its 9 degrees c

                                  climate change is a scam

                                  just more #fakenews

                                  thats all

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                                    • Barry-xlovecam
                                      It's 42
                                      • Jun 2010
                                      • 18083
                                      #10
                                      I am not going to deny scientific fact. However, one fluke heatwave is not indicative of long term global treads.

                                      The greatest effect is in the tropics. Any global warming will influence ocean temperatures, evaporation and rainfall -- and storm severity.

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                                        • wehateporn
                                          Promoting Debate on GFY
                                          • Apr 2007
                                          • 27176
                                          #11
                                          Even if climate change was manmade, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing e.g. increased temperatures would bring big benefit to Siberia

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                                            • Busty2
                                              Member since 1999
                                              • Dec 2007
                                              • 7202
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                              Thanks Global Warming deniers

                                              It's 32 celcius / 90 degrees Farenheit (adopt the metric system already!) today here, on September 26h, in Montreal, in freakin' CANADA. And it has been this hot for almost the past 2 weeks.

                                              You've ruined everything. Goodbye.
                                              88F here in Maine or if you must 31.1111111111 celcius !!!!!!

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                                                • EonBlue
                                                  Apocalypse
                                                  • May 2007
                                                  • 3043
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Fat Panda
                                                  montreal roughly same latitude as minneapolis

                                                  in winnipeg its 9 degrees c

                                                  climate change is a scam

                                                  just more #fakenews

                                                  thats all
                                                  Ya but to ********** when it is colder than normal where he lives is just local weather. But when is warmer than normal it is global warming catastrophe.

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                                                    • 2MuchMark
                                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 50991
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by tfto
                                                      Look at the upside. A couple more weeks of hot Canadian chicks in shorts and tank tops!...Sounds like you need to drink more beer to stay cool.. Eh?.
                                                      I will admit, I have been enjoying it. Lots more days lately being pool-side and chillin'.

                                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                      Look at all the Canadian visitors I had on my lawn last week.



                                                      Business as usual flying South for the winter ...
                                                      Me too! Just behind my house there are thousands of geese landing and quacking and pooping and flying and partying and planning a take-over. They're beautiful.

                                                      Originally posted by Fat Panda
                                                      montreal roughly same latitude as minneapolis

                                                      in winnipeg its 9 degrees c

                                                      climate change is a scam

                                                      just more #fakenews

                                                      thats all
                                                      That is all.

                                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                      I am not going to deny scientific fact. However, one fluke heatwave is not indicative of long term global treads.
                                                      But the emails!!!


                                                      .... and you sir, are correct sir.


                                                      The greatest effect is in the tropics. Any global warming will influence ocean temperatures, evaporation and rainfall -- and storm severity.[/QUOTE]

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                                                        • EonBlue
                                                          Apocalypse
                                                          • May 2007
                                                          • 3043
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                          Any global warming will influence ocean temperatures, evaporation and rainfall -- and storm severity.
                                                          The only thing it will reliably increase is the shrieking of the alarmists.

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                                                            • thommy
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 5469
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                              These are all you need to know.







                                                              The problem is made worse by population growth.





                                                              Thommy thinks the solution is education.

                                                              well if you believe and understand the stats you have posted than the only problem we have to resolve are the people who deny (or don´t understnd) it.

                                                              and as far as i can read here the ones who deny that are really fucking undereducated morons.
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                                                                • crockett
                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 76818
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                  I am not going to deny scientific fact. However, one fluke heatwave is not indicative of long term global treads.

                                                                  The greatest effect is in the tropics. Any global warming will influence ocean temperatures, evaporation and rainfall -- and storm severity.
                                                                  Tell that to the GFY gw denial club. Everytime it's cold outside they make a topic..
                                                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                    • 2MuchMark
                                                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 50991
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                      Even if climate change was manmade, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing e.g. increased temperatures would bring big benefit to Siberia
                                                                      Some places might be better off, but everywhere else would be a disaster.

                                                                      Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                      Ya but to ********** when it is colder than normal where he lives is just local weather. But when is warmer than normal it is global warming catastrophe.
                                                                      Warmer Arctic means cold winters elsewhere. Here's how.

                                                                      Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                      The only thing it will reliably increase is the shrieking of the alarmists.
                                                                      So will all owners of the big sea-side homes. Blub blub..

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                                                                        • MediaGuy
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                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                          • 5500
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by tfto
                                                                          Look at the upside. A couple more weeks of hot Canadian chicks in shorts and tank tops!...Sounds like you need to drink more beer to stay cool.. Eh?.

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                                                                            • EonBlue
                                                                              Apocalypse
                                                                              • May 2007
                                                                              • 3043
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                              Warmer Arctic means cold winters elsewhere. Here's how.
                                                                              Sorry - I don't read anything that calls people "climate deniers". It's a completely made up, false and infantile smear wielded by smug morons that think they know what they are talking about.


                                                                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                              So will all owners of the big sea-side homes. Blub blub..
                                                                              Ya, you should go to some of them and ask them how it came to be that their houses are built over top of coral.



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                                                                                • Rochard
                                                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 75733
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Global warming is a fact. There is no denying it. We are coming out of an ice age, and it's going to get warmer. Everything is going to change.
                                                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                    • Helix
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                                                                                      • Feb 2002
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      and in the 1970's they were convinced we were entering into the next ice age.

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                                                                                        • wehateporn
                                                                                          Promoting Debate on GFY
                                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                                          • 27176
                                                                                          #23



                                                                                          World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data | Daily Mail Online

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                                                                                            • wehateporn
                                                                                              Promoting Debate on GFY
                                                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                                                              • 27176
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Helix
                                                                                              and in the 1970's they were convinced we were entering into the next ice age.
                                                                                              There was also the 'acid rain' propaganda

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                                                                                                • Helix
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                  • 6021
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                                  There was also the 'acid rain' propaganda
                                                                                                  That's right, I forgot about that one...and the ozone hole.

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                                                                                                    • BaldBastard
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                      • 16816
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Our last summer, took until fall to start happening, best fall ever

                                                                                                      Winter snapped in hard and cold but was short, now its spring and we are already getting summer temperatures, there's been no rain though, farmers are screwed, wild fire season will be crazy.

                                                                                                      Month ago my Canadian friends were all bitching of a crap summer, and I was telling them.. wait. This years totally different summer comes late and lasts forever.

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                                                                                                        • oppoten
                                                                                                          NAME THE JEW
                                                                                                          • Nov 2007
                                                                                                          • 4793
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          As I always say in these threads...if it's a question of 'belief' or 'denial', then it's closer to religion than science.

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                                                                                                            • oppoten
                                                                                                              NAME THE JEW
                                                                                                              • Nov 2007
                                                                                                              • 4793
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by wehateporn
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                                                                                                              The scientist needs to be Einstein - "the world's only genius" - so he could call the kid an anti-semite for telling the truth.

                                                                                                              Seriously, you don't need to bother doing research. It's a narrative, it's not meant to be true.

                                                                                                              Look at who promotes it, how they promote it, and how quick they are to call people names. 100 per cent Jewish. The goal is to hold whitey back, by tapping into our guilt weakness.

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                                                                                                                • oppoten
                                                                                                                  NAME THE JEW
                                                                                                                  • Nov 2007
                                                                                                                  • 4793
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  ^ I mean, if we (whites) were building colonies on Mars by now, they'd have some "Mars-warming" propoganda going on.

                                                                                                                  Their notion of "goyim" only works if whites are held back. In a way it's a compliment.

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                                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                                                      well if you believe and understand the stats you have posted than the only problem we have to resolve are the people who deny (or don´t understnd) it.

                                                                                                                      and as far as i can read here the ones who deny that are really fucking undereducated morons.
                                                                                                                      You see how hard it is to educate some people. You want to educate the world!!!



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                                                                                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                          Too old to care
                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                          • 52942
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Fat Panda
                                                                                                                          montreal roughly same latitude as minneapolis

                                                                                                                          in winnipeg its 9 degrees c

                                                                                                                          climate change is a scam

                                                                                                                          just more #fakenews

                                                                                                                          thats all
                                                                                                                          Explain the graphs I posted showing trends covering 100,000s of years.



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                                                                                                                            • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                              • 52942
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                                                                              Ya but to ********** when it is colder than normal where he lives is just local weather. But when is warmer than normal it is global warming catastrophe.
                                                                                                                              Explain the graphs I posted showing trends covering 100,000s of years.



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                                                                                                                                • EonBlue
                                                                                                                                  Apocalypse
                                                                                                                                  • May 2007
                                                                                                                                  • 3043
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                  Explain the graphs I posted showing trends covering 100,000s of years.
                                                                                                                                  Why do you post graphs if you don't understand their meaning?

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                                                                                                                                    • thommy
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                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 5469
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by wehateporn



                                                                                                                                      World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data | Daily Mail Online
                                                                                                                                      just for making your post complete with the other facts what you did NOT post here

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                                                                                                                                        • thommy
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                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 5469
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                          Explain the graphs I posted showing trends covering 100,000s of years.
                                                                                                                                          why should i here write a book?

                                                                                                                                          here is a site what explains you quite well why these arguments are wrong.

                                                                                                                                          https://www.skepticalscience.com/cli...termediate.htm

                                                                                                                                          the problem of your stats and conclusions from that is, that the world is in a circle where we should get into an ice age. but the opposite happens.

                                                                                                                                          read a bit through the link i´ve send you and possibly you understand a bit more why this facts are no facts.
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                                                                                                                                            • EonBlue
                                                                                                                                              Apocalypse
                                                                                                                                              • May 2007
                                                                                                                                              • 3043
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                                                                              https://www.skepticalscience.com/cli...termediate.htm
                                                                                                                                              The Skeptical Science site is run by a bunch of activists and there is not a single climate or atmospheric scientist among them.

                                                                                                                                              That link you posted has them trying to debunk a "myth" credited to Richard Lindzen who is a real climate and atmospheric scientist.

                                                                                                                                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lindzen

                                                                                                                                              Richard Siegmund Lindzen (born February 8, 1940) is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books. From 1983[1] until his retirement in 2013, he was Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.[2] He was a lead author of Chapter 7, "Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks," of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's Third Assessment Report on climate change.


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                                                                                                                                                • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                  • 50991
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                  Sorry - I don't read anything that calls people "climate deniers". It's a completely made up, false and infantile smear wielded by smug morons that think they know what they are talking about..
                                                                                                                                                  Knowledge is good.



                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                  Ya, you should go to some of them and ask them how it came to be that their houses are built over top of coral.
                                                                                                                                                  I don't get it.

                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Helix
                                                                                                                                                  and in the 1970's they were convinced we were entering into the next ice age.
                                                                                                                                                  40 years is alot when it comes to technological advancement. Just sayin'.


                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                                                                                  [CENTER]
                                                                                                                                                  The kid isn't paying attention in science class. Weather and Climate are 2 different things.

                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by wehateporn


                                                                                                                                                  Dr. Roy Spencer is an interesting fellow. Alot of what he says is true, but alot of it is misleading. There's a good charge located here https://www.skepticalscience.com/ske...oy_Spencer.htm that compares what he says, to actual science.


                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                                                                                  World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data | Daily Mail Online
                                                                                                                                                  Nope! Read the full story at NOAA Scientists Falsely Accused of Manipulating Climate Change Data

                                                                                                                                                  And again, please always trust reliable sources like National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration | U.S. Department of Commerce and nasa.org for this stuff.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Klen
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                      • 32235
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I remember times when on early october there was snow already, and now it's close to 25 C degrees. One thing is having one year anomaly, but this just keep growing and growing in temperatures, so unless there will be normalization in next 5 years, it's a global warming. End of debate.

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                                                                                                                                                        • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                          Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 50991
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                                                                                          There was also the 'acid rain' propaganda
                                                                                                                                                          It wasn't propaganda. It was a real problem, and it was solved thanks to science and good politics. Whatever happened to acid rain?

                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Helix
                                                                                                                                                          That's right, I forgot about that one...and the ozone hole.
                                                                                                                                                          Dude, seriously?

                                                                                                                                                          Whatever Happened to the Ozone Hole?

                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                          The Skeptical Science site is run by a bunch of activists and
                                                                                                                                                          Wow. Is Nasa and NOAA run by activists too?

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                                                                                                                                                            • EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                              Apocalypse
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2007
                                                                                                                                                              • 3043
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                              Knowledge is good.
                                                                                                                                                              Yes it is. People that call others "climate deniers" should try gaining some.


                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                              I don't get it.
                                                                                                                                                              For example much of Florida is composed of coral and limestone because it used to be under the sea. People that build houses there are on borrowed land because the sea will come to take it back.


                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                              Nope! Read the full story at NOAA Scientists Falsely Accused of Manipulating Climate Change Data
                                                                                                                                                              Snopes is another activist site that can't be trusted with the truth.


                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                              And again, please always trust reliable sources like National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration | U.S. Department of Commerce and nasa.org for this stuff.
                                                                                                                                                              Appeal to authority. They have proven to be unreliable at times when it comes to climate change because of activist direction from above.




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                                                                                                                                                                • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                                  Yes it is. People that call others "climate deniers" should try gaining some.




                                                                                                                                                                  For example much of Florida is composed of coral and limestone because it used to be under the sea. People that build houses there are on borrowed land because the sea will come to take it back.




                                                                                                                                                                  Snopes is another activist site that can't be trusted with the truth.




                                                                                                                                                                  Appeal to authority. They have proven to be unreliable at times when it comes to climate change because of activist direction from above.




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                                                                                                                                                                  So basically unless it aligns with what you think is the truth (or want to believe), its all propaganda?
                                                                                                                                                                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                                                    • EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                                      Apocalypse
                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2007
                                                                                                                                                                      • 3043
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                      So basically unless it aligns with what you think is the truth (or want to believe), its all propaganda?
                                                                                                                                                                      No, not at all. I don't deny climate change.

                                                                                                                                                                      I think you should ask your question to the alarmists who refuse to listen to anything contrary to what they think is the truth (or want to believe).

                                                                                                                                                                      There are legitimate and distinguished scientists out there that question the current dogma and provide ample evidence but they are always shut out of the debate by the hysterics of the alarmists. You know there is a problem when it is socially unacceptable to go against the mob mentality even if you are an expert and can back up what you say.



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                                                                                                                                                                        • GAMEFINEST
                                                                                                                                                                          Make STACK$
                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                                                          • 14478
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          What comes around goes around
                                                                                                                                                                          Compound interest.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • thommy
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 5469
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                                              No, not at all. I don't deny climate change.

                                                                                                                                                                              I think you should ask your question to the alarmists who refuse to listen to anything contrary to what they think is the truth (or want to believe).

                                                                                                                                                                              There are legitimate and distinguished scientists out there that question the current dogma and provide ample evidence but they are always shut out of the debate by the hysterics of the alarmists. You know there is a problem when it is socially unacceptable to go against the mob mentality even if you are an expert and can back up what you say.



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                                                                                                                                                                              i really think that we all here have not enough skills to understand this whole issue - none of us have studied it or even have a deeper knowledge in this science. the only thing what i do is just a simple research to find out who get paid from whom.

                                                                                                                                                                              as only 3% of scientiests of the whole world do not doubt the human made climate change and the most of this 3% are outed as being on the payroll of companies like exon or koch than I use simple logic to decide who i believe.

                                                                                                                                                                              i will not even go so far to say that i can feel it (even when i think that winters in the past have been much colder) because i know that nobody can trust his own brain and memories.

                                                                                                                                                                              but i can see that weather phenomenons are rising since 20-30 years extremely - when i see that the temperature of the oceans are already nearly 1 centigrade higher as in the last 100.000 years - when i see that islands are gone already and at least know enough about physics that I know what happens with the oxygen in salt water when it heats up, than i do not have another chance as to believe them.

                                                                                                                                                                              look what alternatives do we have?

                                                                                                                                                                              1. we can wait if it happens or not - but IF 97% of all scientists are correct there is no way to change that anymore.

                                                                                                                                                                              or

                                                                                                                                                                              2. we do something against it and when it will NOT happen BECAUSE we did something - all the deniers will stand up and say : see? nothing happend ! we told you?

                                                                                                                                                                              i personally prefer number 2 because i better live with idiots as to die because of idiots.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • AndyA
                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  it's disgusting these people are being fooled by the people they vote for

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 50991
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                                                      I think you should ask your question to the alarmists who refuse to listen to anything contrary to what they think is the truth (or want to believe).
                                                                                                                                                                                      For example?

                                                                                                                                                                                      I have an idea. Pick a single item around Climate change, and post it here. Leave out any passion or politics and focus only on the item, and let's discuss it.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I think that one thing that happens all the time is that discussions tend to break out into multiple tangents all the time making points harder to focus on. So if we can, let's stick to a single item or group, and see if we can come to some kind of agreement, or correct the other's misinterpretation. Sound like fun?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • SantaClause
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2016
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 177
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          I don't think it's because of the deniers, it's just global warming this time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                                                              Apocalypse
                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 3043
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                                                              For example?

                                                                                                                                                                                              I have an idea. Pick a single item around Climate change, and post it here. Leave out any passion or politics and focus only on the item, and let's discuss it.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I think that one thing that happens all the time is that discussions tend to break out into multiple tangents all the time making points harder to focus on. So if we can, let's stick to a single item or group, and see if we can come to some kind of agreement, or correct the other's misinterpretation. Sound like fun?
                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't really have time for this right now but I can check in occasionally when I do have time. For now, we could start with thommy's statement above:

                                                                                                                                                                                              as only 3% of scientiests of the whole world do not doubt the human made climate change and the most of this 3% are outed as being on the payroll of companies like exon or koch than I use simple logic to decide who i believe.
                                                                                                                                                                                              How are you supposed to discuss the topic with anybody that seriously believes that? The 97% figure is a bogus claim based off of a bogus study and there is no proof of the supposed other 3% being on oil company payrolls.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Any debate is a non-starter for people like him because he has been force-fed the propaganda and he accepts it without question.



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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's 42
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 18083
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Jesus travels to denile in Egypt riding a dinosaur, Really!



                                                                                                                                                                                                  Just like those fake news charts!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • thommy
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 5469
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't really have time for this right now but I can check in occasionally when I do have time. For now, we could start with thommy's statement above:



                                                                                                                                                                                                      How are you supposed to discuss the topic with anybody that seriously believes that? The 97% figure is a bogus claim based off of a bogus study and there is no proof of the supposed other 3% being on oil company payrolls.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Any debate is a non-starter for people like him because he has been force-fed the propaganda and he accepts it without question.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      so whatever if it is 97 or 96 or 95 or 90% - it is the far bigger majority and if you research a bit for the background of the deniers you will end up in most cases at the oil and coal lobby who finance them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ying-lawmakers
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