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Originally Posted by thommy
i nearly forgot to answer this part:
as you know i have more places as just one.
1. thailand - here i live in a big city where i met in 6 years 1 person what is born there
2. switzerland - as you possibly not know switzerland is one of the biggest immigration countries in the western world.
3. mallorca - lot of (illegal) immigrants here and yes also crime
furthermore i lived in many countries of this planet on nearly every continent.
what i can tell you from this experience is, that crimes are always there where poor and uneducated people are. no matter if they are white, black or green.
this problem can also not be resolved in a few years because we locked them out from everything for too long time.
we stole their land, their natural ressources and paid them with glas perls.
and BECAUSE it is much easier to deal with glas perls with an under educated, we did not want them wiser.
if we want to change that we should stop to lock them out and give the the same chances as we have.
but here we have another problem because in our culture even the rich people can be under educated and they will not understand the complexity of the hard way.
you are same paul - you have easy solutions for complex and very difficult problems.
the only difference is, that your solutions are thousands of years old and they never worked. not in human together and not in economy.
if we would have a second planet i would vote for it that you get one for all of you. that is the solution for OUR problem because you guys would fuck yourself within a year.
but unfortunately we do not have a second planet - and i do not want to give the future of this one we have in hands of people with no mind, no clue, no education and no empathy.
in fact i really believe that it is easier to educate someone who never had a chance to get educated as someone who missed to take this chance.
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Foronce we agree.
"what i can tell you from this experience is, that crimes are always there where poor and uneducated people are. no matter if they are white, black or green." So importing more poor and uneducated people will increase crime.
This is Bullshit.
"this problem can also not be resolved in a few years because we locked them out from everything for too long time.
we stole their land, their natural ressources and paid them with glas perls.
and BECAUSE it is much easier to deal with glas perls with an under educated, we did not want them wiser." We did not steal their land, it's still there and now belongs to them. The problem is the wealthy won't share it with the poor of their own race. Many of the countries the migrants are coming from are their own people murdering each other. Then there's the problem with overpopulation. Rather than taking contracaeptives to limit the number of children born, do the land can sustain the population. They produce too many children.
More bullshit.
"if we want to change that we should stop to lock them out and give the the same chances as we have." How do we do that when the culture destroys what we have fought for? Many of the countries migrants flee from have built up manufacturing, have the natural resources with billions per month but only for the few. Of their own people.
More bullshit.
"you are same paul - you have easy solutions for complex and very difficult problems.
the only difference is, that your solutions are thousands of years old and they never worked. not in human together and not in economy." You are the one with easy solutions, that will never work. The difference is your solutions don't fix the 1,000 years old cultures of the countries the migrants are coming from. How will you stop Shia killing Sunni or Sunni kill Shia or too many babies being born or the chief of the tribe taking all the wealth?
My solution is to stop them coming into the West where they still maintain those customs. You live in a world where you believe they all want to be just like us. It took 1,000 years for us to become who we are today. 1,000 years ago you and UI would be serfs who were owned by the Lord of the Manor who sent us to war, owned our land, owned everything we had, etc. You think these migrants will become littie Europeans just like us. The facts prove you wrong.