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I initially chose Verotel because they did not charge $750 for Visa.Comment
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Ok, is tis shit related to "unpaid" check that just got back from the anck. Isnt verotel and epoch the same thing?Comment
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Looks like verotel is kaput. Can't imagine anyone staying with them after this, since this is a full years worth of transactions, so even if it's not faul play, they gona lose customers. WTF. Even if it were true, and the debit company fucked them up hard, the members that were not billed still got access to your product. By all common sense, verotel should eat the damages, or sue the debit company. Not look for means to compensate from webmasters. You did your part by giving users product.
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i hereby deem this scamming bullshit "the Verotel bailout plan"Julie Larson
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I would pull all links to verotel as a payment option until I got an accounting sheet....you are an idiot if you don'tboom chicka wah wahComment
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Damn I hate to see them go down like this....I've never processed with Verotel but it was always nice to know that I could use them "Just in Case".....
I know Ricosworld processes with them, plus I and a lot of other people are affiliates so I know he's getting hammered right now....Comment
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sounds fishy to me.Comment
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Is Verotel also sending letters like this out to affiliates who were paid from these transactions, or are the site owners being held responsible for those payments as well?Comment
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damn mate
last year I pay 1480, but in my case we found one webmaster who use stolen credit cards, but question remain, why verotel did not close account of that webmaster in first sign of trouble, so he has enough time to make that bog amount with that cards. Now I am on ccbill
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Verotel... Isn't that the same company that said people using Stats Remote to check their stats were "hammering" their servers and causing them to go offline? Quality company!Comment
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Verotel is the bottom of the list in third party billers.
Tech Support is the worst.
Rates are the worst.
But you can get processing for just about any site.
So they should be treated as the last resort in billing options.
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Tony if I were you I'd tell Verotel to go suck a dick. If they want to come after you for 1K let them have at it....I doubt they'd bother.
I'd remove their ability to write to the htpasswd file and put a note in the members area...or email all members that signed up with verotel and tell them to cancel.
Have them sign up through another processor and give them an extra month free for the hassle.....it's not many members anyways.
If I had alot of rebills with them that were legit and that I was hoping to get paid on later I might bite the bullet, but it looks like almost all of the signups you did through them aren't going to make you any money....so fuck em.sig too bigComment
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I get letters saying they owe me money.... why would you use small companies like verotel anyways? to save a few % is it really worth the 3% in the long run of things?Comment
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you can always piggyback off of friends and there good accounts with epoch and ccbill....
it's very easy to create sub accounts and have payments go directly to the subaccount owner
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They were just a backup they were only doing 10 members a month. That little amount of signups wasn't worth paying another $750 to epoch. Im surprised I expected something back today from them breaking everything down and I got nothing so we will see. I deleted 330 rebills with ibill in one day, so Im not going to lose any sleep canceling the handful here if I have to.Comment
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no doubt.... I just never trust any of these small companies
if I were you id tell verotel to fuck off and take you to court if they want the money....
I joined a site with verotel once and had to call to cancel then when I did I could barley understand the fuck on the phone and he did not cancel me... so I charged the fuck back twice... very shady company from the get go....Comment
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I just see so many people who want to save a few % on the fees and it's really not worth it... stick with big name companies... plus once you pay the 750 your done.. just a yearly fee of like 300 bucks... not to bad... and again trustworthy companies....
one time epoch missed a payment to me I talked with rand it was overnighted to me the next day double what they owed I told em and they said thats for your probs...
thats a real company....Comment
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Are they going to take it as a lump sum (meaning you get no holdback returned until the "debt" is covered) or are they going to stagger the repayments? You might want to clarify this with them.
Can't see how tony404 doing $1300 worth of DD transactions would result in a $1089 error... 85% of the transactions were fraudulent???Comment
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Where is boneprone to call it a shake downComment
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in my case they are taking all of the holdback, and then $100 for 20 weeks out of rebills (which aint gonna happen cause i am canceling all members as we speak)
in my case it's 100% of the DD transactions. i heard from webmasters who are getting more than 100%
asked verotel how that is possible, no reply except that some unspecified date in the future they will send me a list of fraudulent transactions
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I'm curious as to if these transactions were all direct debit.
I've never had any issue with them as far as credit card processing is concerned, and smaller affiliates like them because they are paid directly with no minimum payout.
They've never been late on a payout, and the rate is better than any of the others I get for third party.
But...you get what you pay for in the tech support. I tried their direct debit and their check solutions, both of which ended up with far too large of a credit/return/bounce/chargeback to really take seriously as a billing option.
I've also noticed an unusual number of "credit" transactions, with reasons like "did not expect rebill". THe first year that I was with Verotel I had exactly one, and that was a credit transaction I initiated. I had a total of three chargebacks that year. Now I get that weekly.
hooray for billing cascasdes.Comment
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Verotel doesnt really sucks as many of you said. It is true that their DDEU transactions were fucked up by their German aquiring bank. What in fact happened is that Verotel processed this direct debit transactions on your behalf (as well as mine), issued the invoice, sent you the money but they actually never got the money from the bank. They have been screwed by the bank themselves. After all this happened i personally had well over $10k cut from future invoices because they actually sent me the money for these direct debit transactions but afterwards they have never been settled with the aquiring bank.LivePimpin Webcams Network - Lemme tell you somethin', this pimpin that I got in my blood, it came from a family tree. My granddaddy was a pimp, my great great GREAT granddaddy was a pimp. I'm talkin' bout pimpin' since been pimpin' since been pimpin'!Comment
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Damn, really not a good sign at all.Comment
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Well i think i was a bit wrong so a correction to the above statement is due. Their aquiring banks never got the money from the customers` banks.
As in the note in the Verotel control panel regarding the DDEU transactions says:
So that sounds just like what it is. Verotel processed them on our behalf; their aquiring bank did approved them as well but in the end they have been unable to collect the money from the customers` bank accounts. Well as i said i have been affected as well but i juts have to live with it.Dear Customer,
Please note that you may see some additional credits to your account in your invoice. This is due to a complete reconciliation of our DDEU transactions which indicated that a number of transactions which were paid out to you in previous invoices were in fact not collected or reversed by our banks and processing partners. These transactions were subsequently never settled and not paid to Verotel. We have cancelled any users associated with these credits and appreciate your understanding in this reconciliation process.
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Other than this issue Verotel looks to me personally as one of the most professional company in the 3rf party processing market.
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some problems with the "most professional company":
1. it took them 3 years to notice this. the issue applies to 06, 07 and 08.
2. initial quote for what i owe them included 100% of the transactions BEFORE the verotel fee of around 14%. that means they wanted me to pay back more than what i actually received
3. it is almost 2 months since the initial letter quoted a dollar amount i "owe" them out of thin air and still no list of affected transactions are provided. i am supposed to just believe them
4. the way they notified us is unprofessional imho and shows lack of respect for their clients. that girl sarah that called me, according to herself, is a new employee and doesn't fully understand the issue. she was hired specifically to call the webmasters and to get them to agree to pay the money back without too much fuss
if they were "the most professional company", they would write off the whole issue as their own mistake, fix the problem so it doesn't happen again and move on, instead of passing the entire cost on to the webmasters who didn't do anything wrongComment
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This thing is completely bullshit and anyone that disagree deserves an anal ravaging.
They fucked up they should really be eating it.
In most mainstream businesses if they fuck up they make up for it they don't make the client pay for it.. Verotel.. actually adult in general has balls to fuck with people..Last edited by Ozarkz; 03-25-2009, 02:37 PM.Comment
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