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  • Snake Doctor
    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
    • Mar 2001
    • 13449
    #1

    WTF is GM thinking?

    ?G.M. will file what is expected to be the largest restructuring plan of its 100-year history on Tuesday.... and reduce its lineup of brands to just four, from eight, according to executives knowledgeable about its contents. The remaining core brands will be Chevrolet, Cadillac, GMC and Buick.?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/bu...l?ref=business

    GMC, as far as I know, only makes trucks and suv's (I used to work at a dealership that carried GMC) and those trucks and suv's are identical to the ones chevrolet makes, save for the grille.

    So why would they keep that brand along with chevrolet? They could cut back to 3 lines or keep one like Saturn.
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    • DarkJedi
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      • Feb 2001
      • 28301
      #2
      GM is shit.

      They are losing sales to Hyundai LOL

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        • ADL Colin
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Feb 2001
          • 11929
          #3
          Originally posted by Snake Doctor
          http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/bu...l?ref=business

          GMC, as far as I know, only makes trucks and suv's (I used to work at a dealership that carried GMC) and those trucks and suv's are identical to the ones chevrolet makes, save for the grille.

          So why would they keep that brand along with chevrolet? They could cut back to 3 lines or keep one like Saturn.
          Saturn sales peaked in 1994/95. Many analysts think the Saturn line has never made a profit.

          So which lines are being cut with the most sales and what are the closest competitors?


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            • Snake Doctor
              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
              • Mar 2001
              • 13449
              #4
              Originally posted by ADL Colin
              Saturn sales peaked in 1994/95. Many analysts think the Saturn line has never made a profit.

              So which lines are being cut with the most sales and what are the closest competitors?
              Ok well then they could only keep 3 lines. Obviously the buick/oldsmobile/pontiac etc lines can be whittled down to one...since they were all basically the same anyways.

              It makes no sense IMO to keep GMC and Chevy if the point is to slim down. They make identical products.
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                • tranza
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                  • Jun 2003
                  • 57559
                  #5
                  Whatever...
                  I'm just a newbie.

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                    • evildick
                      #6
                      Why the hell would they keep Buick? I thought that one would have been on the chopping block for sure. Even Pontiac has some worthwhile vehicles with the G6 and G8, but Buick is just crap.

                      I can't even think of what cars Buick makes anymore other than that one ugly SUV that Tiger Woods was pimping for a few years.
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                        • GrouchyAdmin
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                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12085
                          #7
                          So long as the Swedes take SAAB back, I don't give a shit.

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                            • LiveDose
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                              • Feb 2002
                              • 25792
                              #8
                              A lot of their decisions up to this point have been poorly thought out. Why would you expect anything different now that they are under even more pressure...

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                                • MaDalton
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                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 39861
                                  #9
                                  right now they are killing their only moneymaker which is Opel in Germany. it's sad to see how amateurish a company of that size is handled
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                                    • acctman
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                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 2840
                                      #10
                                      who buys american? american cars do not last long at all, always breaking down and needing repairs. its sad but true.

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                                        • ADL Colin
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                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 11929
                                          #11
                                          I don't drive American cars myself but 25% of all cars purchased in the US are GM so people obviously do like the brands. They could definitely sell some of those off in order to shrink the company if they could renegotiate the labor contracts.

                                          2007 top 3 GM brands by sales volume (for the record)
                                          Chevrolet. 4.49 million sales
                                          Opel/Vauxhall 1.69 million sales
                                          GMC 619,000


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                                            • ADL Colin
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                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 11929
                                              #12
                                              Lots of good data for US auto sales.
                                              http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/pag...tml#autosalesE


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                                                • acctman
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                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 2840
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                                  I don't drive American cars myself but 25% of all cars purchased in the US are GM so people obviously do like the brands. They could definitely sell some of those off in order to shrink the company if they could renegotiate the labor contracts.

                                                  2007 top 3 GM brands by sales volume (for the record)
                                                  Chevrolet. 4.49 million sales
                                                  Opel/Vauxhall 1.69 million sales
                                                  GMC 619,000
                                                  i would what percentage of the 25% is Gov't cars?

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                                                    • WhiplashDug
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                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 3438
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by acctman
                                                      who buys american? american cars do not last long at all, always breaking down and needing repairs. its sad but true.
                                                      I guess you don't own my American SUV's. I only buy Chevy Tahoe or Suburban. That's it!

                                                      I just sold a 99 Suburban with 275,000 miles on it. I have it from 195,000 to 275,000. It was runnig just as good at 275,000 as when i got it at 195,000. I replaced it with a 2004 Suburban and LOVE IT!

                                                      I also have a 97 Tahoe that I have had since 99. It has 187,000 miles on it. I have replaced the water pump & power steering pump for them just wearing out. I put in a high performance transmission because the original started to slip (at 145,000 miles) - but that's more because i take it off road all the time. I have beat on that Tahoe more than any normal person would and it runs perfectly.

                                                      Until things change... I will always buy GM trucks & SUV's! But i have a house full of kids, so I need SUV's.
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                                                        • MikeSmoke
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                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 3241
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                          GM is shit.

                                                          They are losing sales to Hyundai LOL
                                                          When my wife needed a new car (big enough for a baby seat but not a mini-van), we looked at an Impala (which is what she thought she wanted) and a Hyundai - and we went with the Hyundai, it was an easy choice

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                                                            • MikeSmoke
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                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 3241
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by evildick
                                                              Why the hell would they keep Buick? I thought that one would have been on the chopping block for sure. Even Pontiac has some worthwhile vehicles with the G6 and G8, but Buick is just crap.

                                                              I can't even think of what cars Buick makes anymore other than that one ugly SUV that Tiger Woods was pimping for a few years.
                                                              They've wanted to chop Pontiac for a long time, they tried back in the late 90s, I think it was.

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                                                                • Sly
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                                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                                  • 31379
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Doesn't GMC have some more "heavy duty" vehicles then Chevrolet?
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                                                                    • potter
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                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                      • 6559
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by WhiplashDug
                                                                      I also have a 97 Tahoe that I have had since 99.
                                                                      I know what you're saying. But I had to read it a few times to finally get it.

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                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                          • 68184
                                                                          #19
                                                                          if they are made on the same assembly line, why not keep gmc going? not being a smartass here, just asking. truck buyers are a loyal group, perhaps by keeping the marque, they can keep customers. it doesn't seem like they would save cash by discontinuing gmc

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                                                                            • AlexVoyeur
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                                                                              • Feb 2009
                                                                              • 37
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I like saturn. They bring european models into the us... Buick is not our cup of tea, but it sells good and gives old people something to drive...
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                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  GMC does a lot of heavy truck stuff that the Chevy brand doesn't.. Think dump trucks and so on..
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                                                                                    • DK
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                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                      • 1273
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      The New Camaro will bail them out

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                                                                                        • evildick
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by acctman
                                                                                          who buys american? american cars do not last long at all, always breaking down and needing repairs. its sad but true.
                                                                                          That's a stereotype left over from the 80's and early 90's. there's nothing wrong with the quality of american vehicles today.

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                                                                                            • HorseShit
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                              • 17513
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                              So long as the Swedes take SAAB back, I don't give a shit.

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