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  • 530media
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    • Nov 2008
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    #1

    The man behind 4chan, broke and living with his mom

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021601565.html

    Someone will come up with an idea to monetize it
  • Agent 488
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    • Feb 2006
    • 22511

    #2
    shit happens.

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    • Martin
      "Assassins"
      • Dec 2001
      • 17274

      #3
      Yeah, I'm going to read 5 pages on this dork.

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      • Tom_PM
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        • Feb 2005
        • 16443

        #4
        A 5 page article? I'm not up for that, lmao.
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        • Paper_Amar
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          • Jun 2007
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          #5
          interesting read
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          • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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            • Jul 2006
            • 20368

            #6
            moot is a fag

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            • alias
              aliasx
              • Apr 2001
              • 19010

              #7
              What? No money in free?
              https://porncorporation.com

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              • DarkJedi
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                • 28301

                #8
                Originally posted by 530media

                Someone will come up with an idea to monetize it
                4chan.org, PR6

                why, sell hardlinks of course!

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                • Mutt
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 34431

                  #9
                  very interesting article only in that it reveals who is behind 4chan - a very uninteresting quiet 21 year old. the kid needs to find himself a partner who is more entrepeurnially minded than him - there has to be a way to make money off that site. all those 4chan surfers go to movies, play video games, eat fast food, etc - he's got to sell some major corporations on that and sell some adspace.

                  same with facebook - i look at the crappy ads on it - Hollywood movie studios and record companies, beverage makers, etc should be paying millions for prime facebook advertising space. all i see on facebook are some crappy Google type ads on the side - that probably have a microscopic click rate.
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                  • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                    • Jan 2004
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mutt
                    very interesting article only in that it reveals who is behind 4chan - a very uninteresting quiet 21 year old. the kid needs to find himself a partner who is more entrepeurnially minded than him - there has to be a way to make money off that site. all those 4chan surfers go to movies, play video games, eat fast food, etc - he's got to sell some major corporations on that and sell some adspace.

                    same with facebook - i look at the crappy ads on it - Hollywood movie studios and record companies, beverage makers, etc should be paying millions for prime facebook advertising space. all i see on facebook are some crappy Google type ads on the side - that probably have a microscopic click rate.
                    Theres a huge difference between facebook users and 4chan users... 4chan users are internet savvy and don't click ads, facebook actually has people who don't do anything online besides facebook so they see an ad that catches their eyes, they don't know it's not for them specificly.

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                    • seeandsee
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                      • Mar 2006
                      • 50945

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Davey Jones
                      4chan.org, PR6

                      why, sell hardlinks of course!
                      He's currently $20,000 in debt, living with his mom and pouring money and hours into the dark heart of the Internet.
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                      • Reak AGV
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                        • Dec 2004
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                        #12
                        I'm not in the mood to read a 5 page article about this kid.

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                        • grumpy
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                          • Jan 2002
                          • 9870

                          #13
                          4chan.com is for sale
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                          • DarkJedi
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by seeandsee
                            He's currently $20,000 in debt, living with his mom and pouring money and hours into the dark heart of the Internet.
                            He is in debt because of school, etc.

                            1 hardlink on a PR6 site = $200/month

                            20 hardlinks = $4k

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                            • pornguy
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                              • Mar 2003
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                              #15
                              He built the wrong sort of board.
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                              • 530media
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                                • Nov 2008
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                He is in debt because of school, etc.

                                1 hardlink on a PR6 site = $200/month

                                20 hardlinks = $4k
                                according to the article he is charging hosting bills on his credit cards

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                                • qxm
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                                  • Jul 2006
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                                  #17
                                  5 page article about a guy who doesn't know how to monetize a high traffic site...... can't think of a better way to waste time....

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                                  • DarkJedi
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by qxm
                                    5 page article about a guy who doesn't know how to monetize a high traffic site...... can't think of a better way to waste time....
                                    well, duh

                                    porn will never sell there and the mainstream sponsors won't touch it

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                                    • Barefootsies
                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 42635

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Martin
                                      Yeah, I'm going to read 5 pages on this dork.
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                                      • Libertine
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                                        • May 2002
                                        • 17860

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pornguy
                                        He built the wrong sort of board.
                                        Actually, no, he didn't. He's just a complete idiot when it comes to monetizing.

                                        He could make money hand over fist with that site, but since he doesn't like taking advice, it's not going to happen.
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                                        • RRRED
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 6754

                                          #21
                                          Shit, I'd sell ad space for him on the side. Difficult maybe, but not impossible. There's no reason he should be in debt.

                                          If anything he can just come up with a gimicky site like lolcatz and make as much money as the icanhazcheezburger site.

                                          Eh, I dunno, seems like it would be easy, I could be wrong. The guy is a fussy stubborn idiot.

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                                          • CaptainHowdy
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                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 94152

                                            #22
                                            Sounds like something that could easily happen to me...

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                                            • tranza
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                                              • Jun 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Damn, this is bad.
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                                              • TeenCat
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                                                • Jan 2007
                                                • 16131

                                                #24
                                                4chan ... lol ... what an idea ... based on japanese futaba/chan boards, used in private communities for everything whats illegal, he only used known name and used it for legal purposes on own servers ... this guy is lame and dont know what he have, by mistake, in his hands

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                                                • Tanker
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                  Theres a huge difference between facebook users and 4chan users... 4chan users are internet savvy and don't click ads, facebook actually has people who don't do anything online besides facebook so they see an ad that catches their eyes, they don't know it's not for them specificly.


                                                  Any company that does branding would buy those ads they don't expect you to click they expect you to see their product placement on the page and when your at a store you but buy their "Bawls Cola" or you might check out "Friday the 13th" this week when you go to the movies. You saw the ad for it on Myspace 6 times when checking your profile page this afternoon.


                                                  Traditional marketing in print and billboards and such are branding, they don't have a click here to check out more about me links on them there is now I got 1 in 200 ratio off that billboard on hwy 5.


                                                  So with that said there are plenty of people that will buy the impressions they get not the clicks

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                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                    #26
                                                    And he makes hardly any cash?

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                                                    • CIVMatt
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                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 13075

                                                      #27
                                                      It's amazing how few people here can't understand WHY their aff and sleep creep ads arn't paying the bills
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                                                      • PR|Jordan
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                                                        • Oct 2008
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Tanker
                                                        Any company that does branding would buy those ads they don't expect you to click they expect you to see their product placement on the page and when your at a store you but buy their "Bawls Cola" or you might check out "Friday the 13th" this week when you go to the movies. You saw the ad for it on Myspace 6 times when checking your profile page this afternoon.


                                                        Traditional marketing in print and billboards and such are branding, they don't have a click here to check out more about me links on them there is now I got 1 in 200 ratio off that billboard on hwy 5.


                                                        So with that said there are plenty of people that will buy the impressions they get not the clicks
                                                        The problem here, what if I took a screen shot with Bawls ad and under it CP, then under that, talking about rape, then under that something else. They would drop the ads VERY fast because they are "supporting bad things.
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                                                        • WarChild
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                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 17263

                                                          #29
                                                          Hey Davey Jones, I guess you can add another line to your catch phrase, eh?

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                                                          I for one am completely shocked.
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                                                          • Roald
                                                            SecretFriends.com
                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 27910

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Tanker
                                                            Any company that does branding would buy those ads they don't expect you to click they expect you to see their product placement on the page and when your at a store you but buy their "Bawls Cola" or you might check out "Friday the 13th" this week when you go to the movies. You saw the ad for it on Myspace 6 times when checking your profile page this afternoon.


                                                            Traditional marketing in print and billboards and such are branding, they don't have a click here to check out more about me links on them there is now I got 1 in 200 ratio off that billboard on hwy 5.


                                                            So with that said there are plenty of people that will buy the impressions they get not the clicks
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                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 30307

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by CIVMatt
                                                              It's amazing how few people here can't understand WHY their aff and sleep creep ads arn't paying the bills
                                                              Yeah I am gonna pretty much call bullshit. THe guy must be making cash, they got alot of ad's on the site. SOmeone manages the shit.

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                                                              • John-ACWM
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                                                                • Nov 2008
                                                                • 20060

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Martin
                                                                Yeah, I'm going to read 5 pages on this dork.

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                                                                • qxm
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                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                  • 5970

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                  well, duh

                                                                  porn will never sell there and the mainstream sponsors won't touch it
                                                                  well.. if it is a fact that no mainstream sponsor will touch it then there is only one logic course of action don't u think? I mean.. .I wouldn't keep a high traffic tube site if there was no way to monetize it and if it was only burning me traffic!

                                                                  BTW.. I highly doubt no sponsor will touch 4chan m8.. seriously.. think of redtube.com, mininova.org and such... they are worse business models and they all found sponsors... If that was my site I would slap some friend finder ads (who are not the most ethical guys) in there and see what happens....
                                                                  Last edited by qxm; 02-17-2009, 09:51 AM.

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                                                                  • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                    Now choke yourself!
                                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                                    • 12085

                                                                    #34
                                                                    It's nice that he created a place for all of the wapanese pedophiles to hang out. Makes it easier for the FBI, and all.

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                                                                    • DarkJedi
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by qxm
                                                                      BTW.. I highly doubt no sponsor will touch 4chan m8.. seriously.. think of redtube.com, mininova.org and such... they are worse business models and they all found sponsors... If that was my site I would slap some friend finder ads (who are not the most ethical guys) in there and see what happens....
                                                                      redtube.com sells dating and webcams

                                                                      you think /b/ards gonna buy dating memberships?

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                                                                      • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                        • 16502

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Tanker
                                                                        Any company that does branding would buy those ads they don't expect you to click they expect you to see their product placement on the page and when your at a store you but buy their "Bawls Cola" or you might check out "Friday the 13th" this week when you go to the movies. You saw the ad for it on Myspace 6 times when checking your profile page this afternoon.


                                                                        Traditional marketing in print and billboards and such are branding, they don't have a click here to check out more about me links on them there is now I got 1 in 200 ratio off that billboard on hwy 5.


                                                                        So with that said there are plenty of people that will buy the impressions they get not the clicks
                                                                        I know how mainstream advertising works

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                                                                        • wjxxx
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 4448

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I`m shocked. Site with 1M uniques a day and no money ?

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                                                                          • mynameisjim
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                                            • 2985

                                                                            #38
                                                                            But with 4chan it's a little different. The wild uncontrolled nature of the content posted there will keep 99% of advertisers away. McDonalds doesn't want their ad showing up next to scat pictures or barely legal self shot pics. Also, that bunch is so finicky that if they happen to not like your ad for whatever reason, there's a good chance they can start a campaign to turn your product into a big joke. With so many other sites, I don't know if it's worth the risk.
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                                                                            • woj
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                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 47880

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Someone should just buy it off him, offer him 1M, I'm sure he would sell it... since it's such a great site should be able to make that back within 3 months... oh, but wait, I wonder why no one does that, could it be because the traffic is complete shit?

                                                                              If the traffic was any good, I'm sure people would be harassing him all the time begging him to sell 10k/month ad spots on the site... I guess he could just be stubborn, not wanting to sell ads on it, but I doubt he would turn down 10k/month for an adspot..
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                                                                              • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                                • Jan 2005
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                                He is in debt because of school, etc.

                                                                                1 hardlink on a PR6 site = $200/month

                                                                                20 hardlinks = $4k
                                                                                I agree, never understood why he didn't utilize that tactic. For a site of that has a ton of quality backlinks and is a PR6, $200/month might actually be undervaluing the site.

                                                                                I can think of a ton of porn and gambling sites that would easily pay for a link on that site.

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                                                                                • CIVMatt
                                                                                  Amateur Pimpin
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 13075

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                  Yeah I am gonna pretty much call bullshit. THe guy must be making cash, they got alot of ad's on the site. SOmeone manages the shit.
                                                                                  Yeah but did you see what the monthly bandwidth bill is? I can only imagine it's barely covering that
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                                                                                  • Libertine
                                                                                    sex dwarf
                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                    • 17860

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                                    redtube.com sells dating and webcams

                                                                                    you think /b/ards gonna buy dating memberships?

                                                                                    They do buy dating memberships, actually.

                                                                                    4chan is losing money because moot doesn't want to make money. It's that simple. Just try asking about buying ad spots, and see what happens...
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                                                                                    • d-null
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                                                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                                                      • 13724

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                      there has to be a way to make money off that site. all those 4chan surfers go to movies, play video games, eat fast food, etc - he's got to sell some major corporations on that and sell some adspace. .

                                                                                      "all those 4 chan surfers download movies, play ripped video games, eat fast food at restaurants that would never in a million years advertise on a chaotic forum like that, etc....."


                                                                                      regardless of what you guys think, the type of traffic they have and the content that goes through there is very low monetisability, and returning forum users are amongst the worst when it comes to profitability (unless you are in a tight business niche)

                                                                                      you mainstream guys know that there are sites you could have with a ton of traffic getting majorly outperformed by low traffic sites, just having a ton of crappy traffic isn't the be all end all answer


                                                                                      the site wouldn't even be worth purchasing because if you bought it and tried to change things there to make it profitable, your own users would likely attack and destroy it

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                                                                                      • Brujah
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                                                                                        • Jan 2001
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        How much does it cost to advertise?
                                                                                        http://www.4chan.org/advertise/

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                                                                                        • tony299
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                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 57021

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          free is where the money is isnt it?

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                                                                                          • JamesK
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                                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                                            • 16731

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Moot is an idiot if you ask me. He can't make money because of a tough crowd? LOL, give me a break.

                                                                                            He could make plenty of money selling acne removal products, 4chan merchandise, t-shirt hell-like shirts etc
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                                                                                            • riddler
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                                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                                              • 3726

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              i still think hes trolling the media or he really is a backwards idiot

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                                                                                              • Libertine
                                                                                                sex dwarf
                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                • 17860

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                                How much does it cost to advertise?
                                                                                                http://www.4chan.org/advertise/
                                                                                                There's the problem, actually.

                                                                                                The email address on the page you listed simply doesn't yield any responses. [email protected] has a chance of getting you a response, but if you do get one, you'll quickly learn that moot is a twatty emo, more interested in crying about his situation than in changing it. Spend some time talking with him, and you may or may not get a pricelist which may or may not be realistic (why yes, prices do change based on whether he likes you or not - stroke his big throbbing emo ego, and you'll pay ridiculously little. don't, and you'll pay far more than it's worth).

                                                                                                Buying advertising on 4chan is like getting a teenager to clean up his room. The guy is in it for internet fame, and has the business sense of a brick
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                                                                                                • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                                                  There's the problem, actually.

                                                                                                  The email address on the page you listed simply doesn't yield any responses. [email protected] has a chance of getting you a response, but if you do get one, you'll quickly learn that moot is a twatty emo, more interested in crying about his situation than in changing it. Spend some time talking with him, and you may or may not get a pricelist which may or may not be realistic (why yes, prices do change based on whether he likes you or not - stroke his big throbbing emo ego, and you'll pay ridiculously little. don't, and you'll pay far more than it's worth).

                                                                                                  Buying advertising on 4chan is like getting a teenager to clean up his room. The guy is in it for internet fame, and has the business sense of a brick
                                                                                                  you sound really disappointed

                                                                                                  did moot deny you cyebrsex?

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                                                                                                  • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    btw, 4chan is down - it's being hammered by all the noobs from the washingtonpost article

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