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Trump ends DACA program that protected illegal mexicans brought into US as children.

09-03-2017, 06:32 PM

Nice chess move by Trump here. It has a 6 month delay, which is going to put pressure on Democrats to fund the wall if they want to extend DACA.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...igrants-242301

Trump has decided to end DACA, with 6-month delay

Senior White House aides met Sunday afternoon to discuss how to roll out the controversial move affecting hundreds of thousands of Dreamers.

President Donald Trump has decided to end the Obama-era program that grants work permits to undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as children, according to two sources familiar with his thinking. Senior White House aides huddled Sunday afternoon to discuss the rollout of a decision likely to ignite a political firestorm ? and fulfill one of the president?s core campaign promises.
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09-03-2017, 07:05 PM

I thought Mexico was paying for the wall. Why should he have to negotiate with Democrats?
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09-03-2017, 07:27 PM

But but who will pick our strawberries
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09-03-2017, 07:32 PM

its a dumb move by trump..

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09-04-2017, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by Matt 26z

Nice chess move by Trump here. It has a 6 month delay, which is going to put pressure on Democrats to fund the wall if they want to extend DACA.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...igrants-242301

Trump has decided to end DACA, with 6-month delay

Senior White House aides met Sunday afternoon to discuss how to roll out the controversial move affecting hundreds of thousands of Dreamers.

President Donald Trump has decided to end the Obama-era program that grants work permits to undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as children, according to two sources familiar with his thinking. Senior White House aides huddled Sunday afternoon to discuss the rollout of a decision likely to ignite a political firestorm ? and fulfill one of the president?s core campaign promises.

Isn't that nice... the DEMS always have to waste tax payers money on things that will never work like a WALL just to save kids educations

the same happened with Bush.... DEMS try and help the little guy and Republicans fuck it all up
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09-04-2017, 03:56 AM

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09-04-2017, 04:09 AM

america in a nutshell:

we waste half our tax money invading others but the real problem is cheap labor that works for small business

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09-04-2017, 05:19 AM

What is he trying to accomplish with this move other than to throw some political red meat to his mouth breathing base of mongoloids? That's actually what all of his decisions are based on.
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09-04-2017, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by GAMEFINEST

its a dumb move by trump..

its a trump move by Dump..

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

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09-04-2017, 07:00 AM

People are seeing how truly hateful & bitter Trump is, not to mention him breaking his promise of Mexico paying for the wall (now if USA doesn't pay he'll shut down the government) and fixing insurance so it will be more affordable (he's defunding Obamacare so it fails for everyone). He promised to honor DACA now he's going back on that too. Scumbag

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09-04-2017, 12:40 PM

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He promised to honor DACA now he's going back on that too. Scumbag

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09-04-2017, 01:37 PM

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09-04-2017, 01:47 PM

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09-04-2017, 02:33 PM

The free lunch is over. Their dream = our nightmare. bye bye dreamers
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09-04-2017, 02:39 PM

Hateful Trump supporters nothing is gonna make your lives better no matter how miserable you and your king cuck try to make others

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09-04-2017, 02:45 PM

Consequences are a bitch...on the one hand you get higher prices with more expensive labor costs, and in turn, lower competitiveness compared to imports and it hurts exports...on the other hand Mexico, one of America's top trade partners, gets hundreds of thousands of new unemployed...

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09-04-2017, 02:51 PM

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Consequences are a bitch...on the one hand you get higher prices with more expensive labor costs, and in turn, lower competitiveness compared to imports and it hurts exports...on the other hand Mexico, one of America's top trade partners, gets hundreds of thousands of new unemployed...

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DACA has nothing to do with field workers.
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09-04-2017, 03:03 PM

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DACA has nothing to do with field workers.

What I said is still valid even though I did not mention field workers, you did...

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09-04-2017, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by crucifissio

What I said is still valid even though I did not mention field workers, you did...

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09-05-2017, 05:03 AM

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What is he trying to accomplish with this move other than to throw some political red meat to his mouth breathing base of mongoloids? That's actually what all of his decisions are based on.

An American President's first duty is to Americans. Not to the millions of illegal migrants who come to take their jobs and keep down wages.

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09-05-2017, 05:05 AM

They are saying Sessions is going to announce it. Chump is to much of a bitch to do it himself if he allows Sessions to do it

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09-05-2017, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by Bladewire

People are seeing how truly hateful & bitter Trump is, not to mention him breaking his promise of Mexico paying for the wall (now if USA doesn't pay he'll shut down the government) and fixing insurance so it will be more affordable (he's defunding Obamacare so it fails for everyone). He promised to honor DACA now he's going back on that too. Scumbag

How would you solve the situation of millions of illegal migrants in America taking jobs from Americans and forcing down wages? While at the same time creating huge demands on Welfare and forcing millions into low wage jobs and unemployment.

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09-05-2017, 05:34 AM

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How would you solve the situation of millions of illegal migrants in America taking jobs from Americans and forcing down wages? While at the same time creating huge demands on Welfare and forcing millions into low wage jobs and unemployment.

Please come up with an answer.

coming from a guy who refused to hire his own countrymen I find this highly amusing

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09-07-2017, 08:45 PM

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Hateful Trump supporters nothing is gonna make your lives better no matter how miserable you and your king cuck try to make others

Are you aware of how many dems have spoken out against Daca in the past and are now condemning Trump for attempting to end Daca?
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09-08-2017, 04:16 AM

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coming from a guy who refused to hire his own countrymen I find this highly amusing

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09-09-2017, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by crucifissio

coming from a guy who refused to hire his own countrymen I find this highly amusing

This is wrong because legal mexicans hiring illegal mexicans and helping themto become legal ( specially with fake marriage )and this wrong circle keep circling. Trump should enforce the law and make sure they go back to their homes. They are not dreamers they are invaders. END DACA

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09-09-2017, 02:22 AM

LOL @ the white man hand wash in the last 2 replies

ending DACA and all other programs will not make the white man hire the white man...the white man will only move production to the non white man...the white man wants his greedy profits and will throw other white men under the bus without blinking...but will then complain how its the non-white mans fault

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09-09-2017, 02:37 AM

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An American President's first duty is to Americans. Not to the millions of illegal migrants who come to take their jobs and keep down wages.

but that would presuppose to have a clue of global economy.

that you agree with his politics proves that he is not wiser than you are.

for some reason the richest and economically most successful countries in the world with the highest life standard are full with alien workers and doing fine.

show me ONE big economy on this planet what is doing great without them.
and after that tell me WHY you think you are right

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09-09-2017, 02:43 AM

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This is wrong because legal mexicans hiring illegal mexicans and helping themto become legal ( specially with fake marriage )and this wrong circle keep circling. Trump should enforce the law and make sure they go back to their homes. They are not dreamers they are invaders. END DACA

and why the fuck you think this legal mexicans can pay illegal mexicans?
who is buying their services and products and what would be with this people when they have to pay MUCH MORE for it?

what you are explaining here is against all rules of economy and prosperity.
when things would be as you guys want them you would have to work 20 years to buy a new bicycle. you are voting for all products YOU NEED are not produced the cheapest but the most expensive way and you forget that all this additional costs are increasing the prices for those products you want to sell to the world.

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09-09-2017, 04:53 AM

the amusing thing is that none of the anti immigration crew give a single fuck about their countries LOL did you think paul gave a single fuck about the UK when he went to CZ to pay models one dozen euros to pose naked? dude went to make money, he could not care less about his countrymen and the fact that his pension is now abroad and not in the UK...did paul return to the UK to make sure his country is better off and his pension spent in the UK? fuck no!

paul would rather live in a country where he does not even speak the local language just so that his pension goes further LOL...

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09-09-2017, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by crucifissio

the amusing thing is that none of the anti immigration crew give a single fuck about their countries LOL did you think paul gave a single fuck about the UK when he went to CZ to pay models one dozen euros to pose naked? dude went to make money, he could not care less about his countrymen and the fact that his pension is now abroad and not in the UK...did paul return to the UK to make sure his country is better off and his pension spent in the UK? fuck no!

paul would rather live in a country where he does not even speak the local language just so that his pension goes further LOL...

paul is also arguing against the health system in US.
but exactly THERE happens what he wants.
only american workers with high wages what want to be paid from the weakest people in the country.

america have the highest health spendings and the worst health services because they do what paul wants that everybody is doing.

the same medicals produced in india would cost a fraction - and if you bring the indians to the own country they would additionally pay taxes there and spend the most of the money they make in this country.

but maybe we did not understand paul´s philosophy - maybe he is a magic and stop earth gravity just with a snip of his finger.

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Most what Paul M is saying is going on in Europe for years, he isn't saying new things. More and more politicans agree with Paul. Left and right wing parties. Looks to me that Europe hasn't become a thirld world country altough they don't want illegals and refugees.

The discussion about sending out illegals with children is going on in Holland for years. A lot of illegals come in, get pregnant as soon as possible and than get a free lawyer and start proceeding for years (for free). The older the kids get, the more change they could stay. So the lawyers goes on and on and on, costing millions of euros. And than you have the whole cloud of organisations that get more money to support the illegals.

Also the Dutch government (and EU) makes more and more rules so people that come in, can't bring their whole family also. Every year more rules are made to stop them, but lawyers find mazes and keep proceeding (on tax payers cost). Why do you think they make new rules to stop immigration? Would they do that if it brings profit? Or are they making more strict rules because the migrant and refugee problem cost money and bring social problems?

But when Trump says it,some Europeans suddenly see it as bad. If you look at Healthcare in Europe and wellfare, i think Europe is much better than the USA. So why shouldn't they copy it from Europe, including the solution for migration problems.

America is doing what most Europeans countries are doing for many years, protect their people and put EU first. Italy now even hired the maffia to pay the 'refugee' smugglers in Syria so they stop sending more refugees by boat.... We pay Erdogan billions to stop the refugees there so they don't reach Europe. We are making deals now with other african countries to keep the migrants out. Ok, it is not a wall, but it works the same... In Hungary they actualy built a wall to keep people out... You can say thet the Brexit also happened cause of the migration problems. Many countries want less immigration. But it is popular to be against everything that Trump says.

Some people here are realy brainwashed, profit from what the EU gave them, but want to see other countries making the mistakes we try to tackle in Europe. Thinking they are smarter than all the governments in Europe.

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09-09-2017, 09:29 AM

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and why the fuck you think this legal mexicans can pay illegal mexicans?
Who is buying their services and products and what would be with this people when they have to pay much more for it?

What you are explaining here is against all rules of economy and prosperity.
When things would be as you guys want them you would have to work 20 years to buy a new bicycle. You are voting for all products you need are not produced the cheapest but the most expensive way and you forget that all this additional costs are increasing the prices for those products you want to sell to the world.

With other words: Don´t talk about economy if you do not have the brain for it.

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09-10-2017, 01:30 AM

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but that would presuppose to have a clue of global economy.

that you agree with his politics proves that he is not wiser than you are.

for some reason the richest and economically most successful countries in the world with the highest life standard are full with alien workers and doing fine.

show me ONE big economy on this planet what is doing great without them.
and after that tell me WHY you think you are right

It's true economies do great with a cheap work force. They do even better with a slave work force.

Which makes your argument stupid.

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09-10-2017, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by thommy

and why the fuck you think this legal mexicans can pay illegal mexicans?
who is buying their services and products and what would be with this people when they have to pay MUCH MORE for it?

what you are explaining here is against all rules of economy and prosperity.
when things would be as you guys want them you would have to work 20 years to buy a new bicycle. you are voting for all products YOU NEED are not produced the cheapest but the most expensive way and you forget that all this additional costs are increasing the prices for those products you want to sell to the world.

with other words: don´t talk about economy if you do not have the brain for it.

So bring back slavery, that works even better.

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09-10-2017, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by thommy

paul is also arguing against the health system in US.
but exactly THERE happens what he wants.
only american workers with high wages what want to be paid from the weakest people in the country.

america have the highest health spendings and the worst health services because they do what paul wants that everybody is doing.

the same medicals produced in india would cost a fraction - and if you bring the indians to the own country they would additionally pay taxes there and spend the most of the money they make in this country.

but maybe we did not understand paul´s philosophy - maybe he is a magic and stop earth gravity just with a snip of his finger.

And if you bring in foreign workers to do the work. What do the natives do?

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09-10-2017, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Most what Paul M is saying is going on in Europe for years, he isn't saying new things. More and more politicans agree with Paul. Left and right wing parties. Looks to me that Europe hasn't become a thirld world country altough they don't want illegals and refugees.

The discussion about sending out illegals with children is going on in Holland for years. A lot of illegals come in, get pregnant as soon as possible and than get a free lawyer and start proceeding for years (for free). The older the kids get, the more change they could stay. So the lawyers goes on and on and on, costing millions of euros. And than you have the whole cloud of organisations that get more money to support the illegals.

Also the Dutch government (and EU) makes more and more rules so people that come in, can't bring their whole family also. Every year more rules are made to stop them, but lawyers find mazes and keep proceeding (on tax payers cost). Why do you think they make new rules to stop immigration? Would they do that if it brings profit? Or are they making more strict rules because the migrant and refugee problem cost money and bring social problems?

But when Trump says it,some Europeans suddenly see it as bad. If you look at Healthcare in Europe and wellfare, i think Europe is much better than the USA. So why shouldn't they copy it from Europe, including the solution for migration problems.

America is doing what most Europeans countries are doing for many years, protect their people and put EU first. Italy now even hired the maffia to pay the 'refugee' smugglers in Syria so they stop sending more refugees by boat.... We pay Erdogan billions to stop the refugees there so they don't reach Europe. We are making deals now with other african countries to keep the migrants out. Ok, it is not a wall, but it works the same... In Hungary they actualy built a wall to keep people out... You can say thet the Brexit also happened cause of the migration problems. Many countries want less immigration. But it is popular to be against everything that Trump says.

Some people here are realy brainwashed, profit from what the EU gave them, but want to see other countries making the mistakes we try to tackle in Europe. Thinking they are smarter than all the governments in Europe.

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09-10-2017, 08:33 AM

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And if you bring in foreign workers to do the work. What do the natives do?

question. what did the models do what did not want to work for the price you offered them?

and yes indeed the base of economy is to produce whatever on the cheapest possible price.

if that would not be that case you would be never the owner of a camera - because you could nor afford it. and IF your products have to be sold that expensive that nobody can buy them.

you missed even lesson one in economy - you should not try to talk about later lessons before you do not understand the basics.

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09-10-2017, 08:40 AM

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question. what did the models do what did not want to work for the price you offered them?

and yes indeed the base of economy is to produce whatever on the cheapest possible price.

if that would not be that case you would be never the owner of a camera - because you could nor afford it. and IF your products have to be sold that expensive that nobody can buy them.

you missed even lesson one in economy - you should not try to talk about later lessons before you do not understand the basics.

Even all those people, who not only studied economy, but are even some former presidents of the biggest economy in the world, disagree with Thommy. They don't have a clue about economy and social problems as much as Thommy does. They all are stupid and are racist. Thommy the pornmaster knows more than all of them. The people in the video underneath are just plane stupid according to thommy.

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09-10-2017, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Most what Paul M is saying is going on in Europe for years, he isn't saying new things. More and more politicans agree with Paul. Left and right wing parties. Looks to me that Europe hasn't become a thirld world country altough they don't want illegals and refugees.

The discussion about sending out illegals with children is going on in Holland for years. A lot of illegals come in, get pregnant as soon as possible and than get a free lawyer and start proceeding for years (for free). The older the kids get, the more change they could stay. So the lawyers goes on and on and on, costing millions of euros. And than you have the whole cloud of organisations that get more money to support the illegals.

Also the Dutch government (and EU) makes more and more rules so people that come in, can't bring their whole family also. Every year more rules are made to stop them, but lawyers find mazes and keep proceeding (on tax payers cost). Why do you think they make new rules to stop immigration? Would they do that if it brings profit? Or are they making more strict rules because the migrant and refugee problem cost money and bring social problems?

But when Trump says it,some Europeans suddenly see it as bad. If you look at Healthcare in Europe and wellfare, i think Europe is much better than the USA. So why shouldn't they copy it from Europe, including the solution for migration problems.

America is doing what most Europeans countries are doing for many years, protect their people and put EU first. Italy now even hired the maffia to pay the 'refugee' smugglers in Syria so they stop sending more refugees by boat.... We pay Erdogan billions to stop the refugees there so they don't reach Europe. We are making deals now with other african countries to keep the migrants out. Ok, it is not a wall, but it works the same... In Hungary they actualy built a wall to keep people out... You can say thet the Brexit also happened cause of the migration problems. Many countries want less immigration. But it is popular to be against everything that Trump says.

Some people here are realy brainwashed, profit from what the EU gave them, but want to see other countries making the mistakes we try to tackle in Europe. Thinking they are smarter than all the governments in Europe.

i think we always talking about 2 different things.
refugee are NOT immigrants - they are a product of wars for economic interests and in the near future they will be a product of damaged environment - also for economic interests.

you should not mix one with the other. the refugee crisis is made by the west - we can not turn around and close our eyes.

immigrants in britain, holland and france are the late bill for imperialism - don´t have to blame refugees for that. these 3 countries where full of immigrants already 50 years ago.

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09-10-2017, 08:59 AM

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Even all those people, who not only studied economy, but are even some former presidents of the biggest economy in the world, disagree with Thommy. They don't have a clue about economy and social problems as much as Thommy does. They all are stupid and are racist. Thommy the pornmaster knows more than all of them. The people in the video underneath are just plane stupid according to thommy.

i really HOPE that all that will happen in america.
and I really hope i can sit here with my popcorn and watch that desaster.

btw. i am NOT a friend of illegal immigration - if you read that from my words you read something wrong.

i only look further to the roots of the problem and i see the complete facts within the rules of world economy.

and tell me - if trump really wants to get rid of them why are his golf resorts one of the biggest employers for mexicans ?
are THESE mexicans not take a job from a us worker ?

you guys are hypocrites - you bend the truth by day and within the scope of your imagination and no truth at all will be respected from your little brains when it is not one what goes along with right radical ideology.

in the history of mankind there has never been a peaceful together without compromise. there is no america first and no eu first if we want to transfer this planet still to the next generation.

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09-10-2017, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by thommy

i think we always talking about 2 different things.
refugee are NOT immigrants - they are a product of wars for economic interests and in the near future they will be a product of damaged environment - also for economic interests.

you should not mix one with the other. the refugee crisis is made by the west - we can not turn around and close our eyes.

immigrants in britain, holland and france are the late bill for imperialism - don´t have to blame refugees for that. these 3 countries where full of immigrants already 50 years ago.

Again you talk about things you don't know about. Said it many times, Holland has no problems with the former colonies. Holland has problems with the immigration started in the 60's and 70's. And than espacially cause they didn't return, what everyone thought they would do. And Holland wasn't full of immigrants before the 60's - 70's. Yes, there where a few before the work migrants. But that was a whole other type of immigrant than the work-migrant from Turkey and very different than the people that want to come in now. And most immigrants where from Europe also, we where part of spain, remember.

I use refugee and immigrant together cause it is all the same now. There are millions of people that want to go to Europe as refugee or immigrant. They try both ways. And we pay the african countries and Turkey to stop them all.

Ps, when the former colonies in Indonesia felt, some came to Holland. No problems there. That the colonies got independent was cause germany started WW2. Surinams, Antilles, Indonesia, Chinese, no big problem in Holland now. And we could fase the other problems. But we keep trying to solve the problem while we don't stop the new ones first. That is why Holland has strong migration laws so current immigrants don't bring their whole family later.

You realy have no clue about a lot of things. You live with a WW2 quilt complex, but has no problem with modern slavery, the race to the bottom. And than saying that Holland has to blame itself for imperialism. Tou are just plain nuts. You would become the new slave owner imperialist if you had the change. I don't know, maybe you already have some cambodian illegals working for you.

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09-10-2017, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by thommy

i really HOPE that all that will happen in america.
and I really hope i can sit here with my popcorn and watch that desaster.

btw. i am NOT a friend of illegal immigration - if you read that from my words you read something wrong.

i only look further to the roots of the problem and i see the complete facts within the rules of world economy.

and tell me - if trump really wants to get rid of them why are his golf resorts one of the biggest employers for mexicans ?
are THESE mexicans not take a job from a us worker ?

you guys are hypocrites - you bend the truth by day and within the scope of your imagination and no truth at all will be respected from your little brains when it is not one what goes along with right radical ideology.

in the history of mankind there has never been a peaceful together without compromise. there is no america first and no eu first if we want to transfer this planet still to the next generation.

You are against a wall, all (former) presidents disagree with you. They see it is needed if you want to have control on migration/immigration.

I am not a trump supporter, but i don't see why what he is doing is so different from what EU is doing. But it is Trump, so everybody has to attack him. About the climate agreement etcetra, while China is suddenly the hero. Dictator country China that pollutes the most and helps another dictator building h-bombs is suddenly our best friend... you must be kidding. In the meantime Brazil decided to cut down more of the amazon. But hey, at least they signed that piece of paper in Paris! That is how stupid people become when they only fixate on Trump. And let other countries point at Trump to hide their own agenda. Mexico is great in that, a big corrupt president. But when he aims at Trump, he realised he get some applause...

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09-10-2017, 10:32 AM

Trump is the exact reason why there should be more rules for (i)llegal immigration. The race to the bottom. Trump is not crazier than other presidents. They use Trump to get applause cause he might be a little worse than the others. The people changed their minds on many things, now that they stand on the sideline. They look how to get the most applause to try to get in power in the next elections.

legal immigarants, illegal, refugees, all are causing problems at this moment. You know that because of all the immigration rules, it is for a lot of people not possible to have a wife outside Holland and get her to Holland. They didn't make that rules so strict cause of natural born dutchman that want to mary a woman in Thailand, Brazil, Mexico or other country... they made it so strict of other reason you might not talk about cause than you are suddenly racist. But for sure the Dutch government don't want more coming in, and the left and right party's agree on that. But there is a "Belgian route', first live in Belgium for one year and than move to Holland... And so many rules can be avoided by good, but also by bad, people.

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09-10-2017, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by thommy

question. what did the models do what did not want to work for the price you offered them?

and yes indeed the base of economy is to produce whatever on the cheapest possible price.

if that would not be that case you would be never the owner of a camera - because you could nor afford it. and IF your products have to be sold that expensive that nobody can buy them.

you missed even lesson one in economy - you should not try to talk about later lessons before you do not understand the basics.

I paid models £200 to £300 a day in the UK and 10,000 CZK for the day in Czech. So that point is smashed.

Your point on the lowest price to protect the economy is right. So use slave labor or but in from China.

But then that fucks most of the people in favor of the few. China has a great economy, but would you want to be working in a Chinese factory? The South had a great economy while it had slavery. You missed the lessons on humanity.

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09-10-2017, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by thommy

i think we always talking about 2 different things.
refugee are NOT immigrants - they are a product of wars for economic interests and in the near future they will be a product of damaged environment - also for economic interests.

you should not mix one with the other. the refugee crisis is made by the west - we can not turn around and close our eyes.

immigrants in britain, holland and france are the late bill for imperialism - don´t have to blame refugees for that. these 3 countries where full of immigrants already 50 years ago.

Refugees who don't go back after the fighting has finished are migrants.

Migrants in Britain, Holland and France are from Poland, Czech, and other EU countries. The old colonies chose independence to run their own countries, not to come to the UK and permanently leave their country.

You really do talk a load of bollox without checking the facts.

Changes in UK population over the last 50 years - ONS

http://backup.ons.gov.uk/wp-content/...ember-2015.pdf

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09-10-2017, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by thommy

i really HOPE that all that will happen in america.
and I really hope i can sit here with my popcorn and watch that desaster.

btw. i am NOT a friend of illegal immigration - if you read that from my words you read something wrong.

i only look further to the roots of the problem and i see the complete facts within the rules of world economy.

and tell me - if trump really wants to get rid of them why are his golf resorts one of the biggest employers for mexicans ?
are THESE mexicans not take a job from a us worker ?

you guys are hypocrites - you bend the truth by day and within the scope of your imagination and no truth at all will be respected from your little brains when it is not one what goes along with right radical ideology.

in the history of mankind there has never been a peaceful together without compromise. there is no america first and no eu first if we want to transfer this planet still to the next generation.

OK let's assume you're right. What do you do with the people out of work or on poverty wages? The US has a real unemployment level of 10% and it's growing. The United States Leads in Low-Wage Work and the Lowest Wages for Low-Wage Workers | Economic Policy Institute

They are your customers, you sell ad space. So their low wages and unemployment are affecting your income. You can't only sell to the top 20%.

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