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Yahoo Searches gone?

10-08-2002, 06:26 PM

Can someone go to http://www.yahoo.com and do some searches they know will trigger the Yahoo! index

Because all I see right now are results from google (or is it?) Although, more mention about google anywhere.

google.yahoo.com does not exist anymore

I need someone else to confirm that the searches within the Yahoo! directory is over..
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10-08-2002, 06:31 PM

Damn, will you not give me a stroke over her.. I just did a search under one of our websites and were still there under Yahoo Search and not Google

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10-08-2002, 06:35 PM

wtf
yahoo has gone google

I just did a search on a term i know has my domain on google in the first 10 and now its on yahoo too

haha fuck yeah and i never paid those 600 $

yeeeehaaaa
long live google and now yahoo
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10-08-2002, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by steffie
Damn, will you not give me a stroke over her.. I just did a search under one of our websites and were still there under Yahoo Search and not Google

Take a look at this thread :

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum35/957.htm

I am not seeing anymore Yahoo! search results..

I see directory matches, sponsor matches and then web matches.. Those web matches are not from the Yahoo! directory,
it's a google index..

yahoo searches = google from now on.. Yikes!

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10-08-2002, 06:38 PM

Rank Search Server(s) Accesses %
1 Google 563 55.63
2 Yahoo 246 24.31
3 AOL NetFind 136 13.44
4 MSN 39 3.85
5 Altavista 10 0.99
6 Virgilio (IT) 7 0.69
7 InfoSeek 6 0.59
8 Dogpile 2 0.20
9 Clix (ES) 1 0.10
10 iWon 1 0.10

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10-08-2002, 06:39 PM

You're right. Google matches...not the Yahoo directory like before. Shitty for me
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10-08-2002, 06:40 PM

Everything is normal from here.
This happened a couple of weeks ago as well, but only for some.
My traffic with Yahoo is normal as well, so...
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10-08-2002, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by KingK7
Everything is normal from here.
This happened a couple of weeks ago as well, but only for some.
My traffic with Yahoo is normal as well, so...

You are right, last time it lasted for a couple of hours and it was not from all the data centers and it had something to do with cookies, now even if I delete them, I still get only google results. The changes occured 2 hours ago. So it's obvious you won't see it unless you get thousands of hits per hour..
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10-08-2002, 06:44 PM

Hmm, now I am seeing Google results too.
I am pretty sure it's just a hiccup though, they might be rearranging something.
Sponsored Listings disappeared for a couple hours yesterday.
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10-08-2002, 06:46 PM

Looks like traffic plunged too...
Crap...
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10-08-2002, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by KingK7
Hmm, now I am seeing Google results too.
I am pretty sure it's just a hiccup though, they might be rearranging something.
Sponsored Listings disappeared for a couple hours yesterday.

If it's only a hiccup, then explain me this:

Look at the top right of the screen when you do a search..

Search in: The Web | Directory | News

Look closely, you will see that by default "The Web" is selected..

If you click on the second one, "Directory" you will get the normal yahoo searches we had before.

They changed the HTML. I don't think it's a hiccup.
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10-08-2002, 06:49 PM

i hope it stays this way
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10-08-2002, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by NoCarrier

If it's only a hiccup, then explain me this:

Look at the top right of the screen when you do a search..
Search in: The Web | Directory | News
Look closely, you will see that by default "The Web" is selected..
If you click on the second one, "Directory" you will get the normal yahoo searches we had before.
They changed the HTML. I don't think it's a hiccup.

Hmm, well, I did a search for "porn pics"
http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=porno+pics

It shows the directory results, but "The Web" is selected by default on that one too.
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10-08-2002, 06:56 PM

Now I am seeing mixed results, first 10 listings in a search are Yahoo then the rest is Google.
They are definitely testing something...
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10-08-2002, 06:57 PM

You will get your answer here :

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/ysearch-03.html

They have changed everything.

No more Yahoo! searches (directory searches) by default.
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10-08-2002, 07:00 PM

Oh man, this is NOT good..
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10-08-2002, 07:06 PM

This should shed some light

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,55597,00.html

geeezz

Yahoo also indexed all the pages today

A new start

God help us, I am afraid to look where my sites are

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10-08-2002, 07:08 PM

It depends on the search phrase you use, for example:

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=computers

Gives you the directory results, wheras:

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=sex

Gives you Web results,

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10-08-2002, 07:13 PM

weird... I can't see ANY results from Google... it's all different for me.

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10-08-2002, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Lexxx
weird... I can't see ANY results from Google... it's all different for me.

I am getting all Yahoo now as well.
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10-08-2002, 08:08 PM

This always happens when Yahoo is doing updates. For example, about 20 minutes per day between 4-6am EST their database goes offline to do their daily additions/removals. During this time you get Google only. Whenever something is wrong or being done to their master database, Yahoo just removes their search results and let's google go in place (their secondary provider). Nothing special there. Yahoo would be stupid to remove their primary listings, that's what made them so big to start with and so many webmasters pay big bucks for inclusion.

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10-08-2002, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
This always happens when Yahoo is doing updates. For example, about 20 minutes per day between 4-6am EST their database goes offline to do their daily additions/removals. During this time you get Google only. Whenever something is wrong or being done to their master database, Yahoo just removes their search results and let's google go in place (their secondary provider). Nothing special there. Yahoo would be stupid to remove their primary listings, that's what made them so big to start with and so many webmasters pay big bucks for inclusion.

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Amen, well said!
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10-08-2002, 11:21 PM

They have definitely made quite a few changes.
About 20 mins ago. The submission form is quite different, as well as a few other things. Mostly cosmetic changes as far as I can see.
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10-09-2002, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by KingK7

Amen, well said!

Thanks man!
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10-09-2002, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Thanks man!
Any ideas why I haven't gotten my CyberThrill check btw? It's been about 3 years
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I am pretty sure it's "in the mail".
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10-09-2002, 04:50 AM

that´s very good news
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10-09-2002, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by markusborger
that´s very good news

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10-09-2002, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
This always happens when Yahoo is doing updates. For example, about 20 minutes per day between 4-6am EST their database goes offline to do their daily additions/removals. During this time you get Google only. Whenever something is wrong or being done to their master database, Yahoo just removes their search results and let's google go in place (their secondary provider). Nothing special there. Yahoo would be stupid to remove their primary listings, that's what made them so big to start with and so many webmasters pay big bucks for inclusion.

WG

Does what? Changes their "What are the different sections of the search results page?" help text? And replaces Google's snippets with Y descriptions? And changes their "Summary ¦ Categories ¦ Web Sites ¦ Web Pages ¦ News" headings for this new format "Search in: The Web ¦ Directory ¦ News"

I think not. They are up to something, a lot of people saw those changes. We better be prepared.
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10-09-2002, 06:40 AM

Yeah...I've noticed a couple changes. Not just Google but it doesn't look like they are using the Overture database for sponsored links on the top and bottom headers anymore.

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10-09-2002, 02:06 PM

They did it..

It's changed..

It's a mix of google and Yahoo! directory..

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/ysearch-22.html

"What's changed with Yahoo! Search?
You may have noticed that the Yahoo! Search results look a little different.
As part of our ongoing efforts to offer you the easiest and most rewarding search experience, by default we now list results ranked by relevancy that combine web page matches from both third parties and the Yahoo! Directory.

Previously, by default we listed search results from the Yahoo! Directory and third-party search engine providers separately. Directory listings can still be viewed separately by clicking on the "Directory Site Matches" option in the navigation bar located below the search box.

Yahoo! Search returns comprehensive results that match the words you entered. The results are divided into four main sections:

Inside Yahoo!: Relevant products and services from within the Yahoo! network
Directory Category Matches: Relevant categories in the Yahoo! Directory
Sponsor Matches: Paid listings for commercial or product-related searches
Web Matches: Search results from third-party search engine providers, combined with listings from the Yahoo! Directory
Learn more about these sections...
We are committed to offering consumers and businesses the best possible search service on the Web. From time to time, we enhance Yahoo! Search and the Yahoo! Directory to help achieve our goal."

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10-09-2002, 04:33 PM

BOOO!

Bad for paid listings on Yahoo, if your listed good with Google then no worries.

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10-09-2002, 04:43 PM

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10-09-2002, 04:43 PM

Well, the changes aren't too bad. Basically they combined Google and Yahoo results into one group now instead of putting Yahoo first then Google. In a way, this does improve relevancy, this is what Google did when they indexed DMOZ websites into their index. Now Google is indexing the Yahoo index as well. On the good side, it seems all my sites have gone up in PR by this effect, most averaging between 4-6 where I used to have 2-3 before.

On the bad side, it's no longer so easy to get good rankings on Yahoo. We'll have to wait and see how the market plays this out, no doubt Yahoo is screwing themselves on the $600/submission but probably banking more on per click charges from Overture.

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