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  • stile
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2001
    • 600

    #1

    having trouble with clickcash/ifriends?

    why not give my CamWhores program a try? if you don't know who i am, i run http://www.stileproject.com and have been a slave to the web for years. camwhores is my baby and has been around for a year, and two years before that under the stileproject name.

    http://www.camwhores.com is the free teaser site -- take a look.

    we have 205 cams, and the users control the site. you vote for or against the cams which moves them in and out of our 'wannabe' cam pool. image archiving, chat, members only shows, user bios, complete site customization to your preference... a totally fresh concept that converts.

    it's more of a community than porn site... 70,000 people watching a day can't be wrong, and our average conversion rate for people sending teen traffic is 1:120, even higher on cam traffic.

    check out the tour: http://www.camwhores.com/tour.html -- i GUARENTEE you that it'll convert just as good if not better than ifriends using the same type of ads. no large sites are using our program so it isn't overexposed -- and we bill with globill.

    http://www.camwhores.com/partner.html if you want to try us out.

    if you have any questions or comments hit me up on ICQ 25115016 and i'll give you a pass to check out the members area...

    the only reason i'm posting this is because i see you guys getting frustrated with clickcash and wanted to offer a fresh alternative -- this will be the first and last topic I ever start here.
    Last edited by stile; 10-08-2002, 04:15 PM.
  • Joe Sixpack
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2002
    • 3793

    #2
    You should pay your webmasters 50% of all the rebills and not just 50% of the initial sign-up cost.

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    • stile
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2001
      • 600

      #3
      I'll tell you what... if you sign up from reading my post, I'll give you 50% of the rebills.

      Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
      You should pay your webmasters 50% of all the rebills and not just 50% of the initial sign-up cost.

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      • Bobo
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2002
        • 2253

        #4
        Can you send me mutilated torsos instead of checks if I sign up?

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        • stile
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2001
          • 600

          #5
          also, is it considered bad form to link to your partner program in a post on this board? if so, i apologize.

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          • stile
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2001
            • 600

            #6
            Absolutely. Got any brothers or sisters? ;)

            Originally posted by Bobo
            Can you send me mutilated torsos instead of checks if I sign up?

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            • Joe Sixpack
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 3793

              #7
              I've already signed up and sent you a few signups but I'm not happy with the return I'm getting on my traffic. Of course, I might send more traffic if you give me 50% on the rebills.

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              • stile
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2001
                • 600

                #8
                What site do you run?

                Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
                I've already signed up and sent you a few signups but I'm not happy with the return I'm getting on my traffic. Of course, I might send more traffic if you give me 50% on the rebills.

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                • Joe Sixpack
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 3793

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stile
                  What site do you run?

                  Nothing big. Just have a few of your banners up on my live cam feeder sites, but I have moved them from the top to the bottom of the page because I was doing better with Tricams and Sweetapples. My partner code is 5976r. According to my stats, I've sent you 10 "signups" but 7 of them were rebills so I only got paid for 3.
                  Last edited by Joe Sixpack; 10-08-2002, 04:28 PM.

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                  • stile
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 600

                    #10
                    I'm not surprised that you don't do well.

                    1) I went to your site http://www.filthywebcams.com and was prompted not once, but TEN TIMES that you have malicious code/virii on your site.

                    2) your page is a mess man. usually you have to send more than three hits to get a signup ;-)

                    3) your page is a fucking mess. how the hell are you supposed to find anything on there? no offence but it looks like you had a seizure on your keyboard then uploaded it.

                    4) please take this as constructive criticism. i'm not trying to hurt your feelings.

                    5) anyone who uses "comic sans" or whatever that fucking font is needs to be shot. then shot again.

                    6) the quality of your traffic is a big variable when sending traffic to sponsors ;-)

                    I bet if you were to condense your site and remove 75% of the shit on the front page you'd make twice as much money. seriously. too many links scares surfers away.

                    Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


                    Nothing big. Just have a few of your banners up on my live cam feeder sites, but I have moved them from the top to the bottom of the page because I was doing better with Tricams and Sweetapples. My partner code is 5976r. According to my stats, I've sent you 10 "signups" but 7 of them were rebills so I only got paid for 3.

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                    • Joe Sixpack
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3793

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stile
                      I'm not surprised that you don't do well.

                      1) I went to your site http://www.filthywebcams.com and was prompted not once, but TEN TIMES that you have malicious code/virii on your site.

                      2) your page is a mess man. usually you have to send more than three hits to get a signup ;-)

                      3) your page is a fucking mess. how the hell are you supposed to find anything on there? no offence but it looks like you had a seizure on your keyboard then uploaded it.

                      4) please take this as constructive criticism. i'm not trying to hurt your feelings.

                      5) anyone who uses "comic sans" or whatever that fucking font is needs to be shot. then shot again.

                      6) the quality of your traffic is a big variable when sending traffic to sponsors ;-)

                      I bet if you were to condense your site and remove 75% of the shit on the front page you'd make twice as much money. seriously. too many links scares surfers away.

                      I know that site is a pile of shit but it was my first site and I don't send too much traffic there any more. I was meaning to work on it but I started on other projects. Oh, and I like Comic Sans!

                      Thanks for your suggestions though
                      Last edited by Joe Sixpack; 10-08-2002, 04:37 PM.

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                      • stile
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 600

                        #12
                        think small... think simple...

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                        • Brujah
                          Beer Money Baron
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 22157

                          #13
                          Do Tricams and SweetApples convert better than ifriends ?
                          Anyone else promoting camwhores finding that the conversions are better than ifriends ?

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                          • pr0
                            rockin tha trailerpark
                            • May 2001
                            • 23088

                            #14
                            Stile can you please post more bukkake & shit pics, you seem to be slacking off lately...thanx
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                            • Spoonie Luv
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1003

                              #15
                              Hey stile, what do you think of my site? Do you think it would convert your web cam site?

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                              • stile
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 600

                                #16
                                Sweetapples converted great for me, never tried tricams. it all depends on how you market it and what kind of traffic you have.

                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                Do Tricams and SweetApples convert better than ifriends ?
                                Anyone else promoting camwhores finding that the conversions are better than ifriends ?

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                                • pr0
                                  rockin tha trailerpark
                                  • May 2001
                                  • 23088

                                  #17
                                  Tricams is the shit

                                  But stile has some freaky bitch's on his site which always sells im sure.
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                                  • stile
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2001
                                    • 600

                                    #18
                                    i don't know... doubt it. black on white is too high contrast, and you could use some images to make things prettier...

                                    Originally posted by Spoonie Luv
                                    Hey stile, what do you think of my site? Do you think it would convert your web cam site?

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                                    • Brujah
                                      Beer Money Baron
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 22157

                                      #19
                                      I sent you an ICQ.. the rebill offer is pretty attractive.

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                                      • stile
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2001
                                        • 600

                                        #20
                                        just look at the tour http://www.camwhores.com/tour.html

                                        it's unique and innovative and converts. and sometimes i get chicks to fist themselves live.

                                        Originally posted by pr0
                                        Tricams is the shit

                                        But stile has some freaky bitch's on his site which always sells im sure.

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                                        • pr0
                                          rockin tha trailerpark
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 23088

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by stile
                                          and sometimes i get chicks to fist themselves live.
                                          Oh i'm quite aware of what you have ho's do...i've been checking out your place since 2000
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                                          • chupacabra
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 3626

                                            #22
                                            i get chicks to fist themselves live.
                                            you fuckin' rock stile, true kansei hentai gawd..! still hangin' on irc.stileproject.com? i catch up w/ you soon, kitten-master..!
                                            ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                            • ^R3K^
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2001
                                              • 2815

                                              #23
                                              Hrm... damn I have never seen a sponsor tear into someone sending traffic before like that.

                                              no business like ho business

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                                              No Hype, Just Results

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                                              • pr0
                                                rockin tha trailerpark
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 23088

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ^R3K^
                                                Hrm... damn I have never seen a sponsor tear into someone sending traffic before like that.

                                                I used to make curse & spit at all my affiliates, & force them to send semi-nude pictures of their girlfriends & sisters. Thats nothing!
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                                                • Pipecrew
                                                  Master of Gfy.com
                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                  • 14888

                                                  #25
                                                  http://www.camwhores.com/join.html

                                                  very very cluttered i bet it scares the surfer..

                                                  also when they close the join page, why exit to your own site again? you should just open the join page as a new page and not then have the ability to exit to another camsite or sponsor........ I use tricams successfully and soon to use camatopia

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                                                  • stile
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                    • 600

                                                    #26
                                                    when you are running our program and sending traffic using our affiliate code, the exit-pop on the join page has your code in it... so if they close, they get the teaser free site and it sets a cookie so if they join in the future, you get credit.

                                                    camatopia is a joke who ripped our concept off, and did a half ass job at it.

                                                    Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                    http://www.camwhores.com/join.html

                                                    very very cluttered i bet it scares the surfer..

                                                    also when they close the join page, why exit to your own site again? you should just open the join page as a new page and not then have the ability to exit to another camsite or sponsor........ I use tricams successfully and soon to use camatopia

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                                                    • stile
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                      • 600

                                                      #27
                                                      sorry, i don't bullshit people and lie to them. if their site fucking sucks and looks like it wouldn't convert, i'll tell them so they can work on it.

                                                      Originally posted by ^R3K^
                                                      Hrm... damn I have never seen a sponsor tear into someone sending traffic before like that.

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                                                      • Spoonie Luv
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 1003

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stile
                                                        i don't know... doubt it. black on white is too high contrast, and you could use some images to make things prettier...

                                                        What about this format (color scheme)?

                                                        http://www.qcsex.com/gotgoodwood/

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                                                        • X37375787

                                                          #29




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                                                          • Plat
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 2680

                                                            #30
                                                            sup stile nice to meet you :c)
                                                            Im fuckin retired

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                                                            • stile
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                              • 600

                                                              #31
                                                              that's actually pretty nice ;)
                                                              Originally posted by Spoonie Luv


                                                              What about this format (color scheme)?

                                                              http://www.qcsex.com/gotgoodwood/

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                                                              • DamnFineOnline
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                • 348

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by stile

                                                                camatopia is a joke who ripped our concept off, and did a half ass job at it.


                                                                The site isn't really live yet. We've got a couple weeks before the real release of it.


                                                                thanks for your input though...

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                                                                • stile
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                  • 600

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Fuck you. Why don't you try getting an original idea. I just found out about your site and can't believe you're charging 20 bucks a month for 70 cams.

                                                                  we have 205, a zillion more features and content... do any of the chicks on your site even know they're on it?

                                                                  PS: blow me

                                                                  Originally posted by DamnFineOnline



                                                                  The site isn't really live yet. We've got a couple weeks before the real release of it.


                                                                  thanks for your input though...

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                                                                  • DamnFineOnline
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                    • 348

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by stile
                                                                    Fuck you. Why don't you try getting an original idea. I just found out about your site and can't believe you're charging 20 bucks a month for 70 cams.

                                                                    we have 205, a zillion more features and content... do any of the chicks on your site even know they're on it?

                                                                    PS: blow me


                                                                    you might have had the original idea, I don't know. But I had never even heard of your site before making this one. I saw camrecord and thought it was a good concept, but not being used to its full potential.

                                                                    I'm not doubting your sites bigger, it's been around for awhile so you have a shit load more content. I'm not hating on your site, it's nice and from what I've seen you have a big ass following of people who like it too.

                                                                    But like I said before Camatopia isn't even live yet, so the 70 girls are just a start and the members area is going to have alot for the members to do.

                                                                    oh and yeah, all the girls have signed up to be on the site.
                                                                    Last edited by DamnFineOnline; 10-08-2002, 09:12 PM.

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                                                                    • pornJester
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                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                      • 6138

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by stile
                                                                      Fuck you. Why don't you try getting an original idea. I just found out about your site and can't believe you're charging 20 bucks a month for 70 cams.

                                                                      we have 205, a zillion more features and content... do any of the chicks on your site even know they're on it?

                                                                      PS: blow me

                                                                      Do you need some ice for that hater-ade?


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                                                                      • Brujah
                                                                        Beer Money Baron
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 22157

                                                                        #36
                                                                        oh yeah.. camrecord has been always been awesome.

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                                                                        • Fletch XXX
                                                                          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                          • 60840

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Funny.

                                                                          hahahaha

                                                                          Original? Blah.



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                                                                          • findadultpix.us
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                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 9

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Damn! And I thought webmasters, especially, adult ones, were supposed to help each other??
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                                                                            • pornJester
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                              • 6138

                                                                              #39
                                                                              First Stile, you talk about bad site design, let me know if you need some help redesigning yours, I don't do freelance but I can give you some pointers.

                                                                              Second, why should anyone promote your site for 50% of the initial signup and no recurring income.. There are plenty of other cam sponsors that appreciate the traffic more and show it in dollar amounts.

                                                                              Third, if you want affiliates why don't you try advertising like everyone else. Or follow the rules of this board. I don't think you're doing anyone a favor with your spam.

                                                                              Fourth, you may want to learn some business sense. From what I see camatopia.com looks like a pretty nice site and maybe you guys could send each other traffic in the future.. you may not want to burn your bridges.


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                                                                              • Fletch XXX
                                                                                GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                • 60840

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by pornJester
                                                                                First Stile, you talk about bad site design, let me know if you need some help redesigning yours, I don't do freelance but I can give you some pointers.

                                                                                Fourth, you may want to learn some business sense. From what I see camatopia.com looks like a pretty nice site and maybe you guys could send each other traffic in the future.. you may not want to burn your bridges.
                                                                                Yup.

                                                                                Camtopia is way more user friendly, and looks more professional.

                                                                                The CamWhores is nothing but clutter and the colors are harsh on your eyes.


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                                                                                • Alky
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                  • 5651

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Well I just got home from AC with localg and having a good time and all. thanks stile for your unique critisim on my site, i appreciate it. when you get past your 3rd grade HTML skills, and paying Kevin to do all your coding let me know.


                                                                                  Oh and original idea? You have got to be kidding me. Keep making your life based on per raw to your sites. Have a good one.


                                                                                  Mike - Very intoxicated
                                                                                  Camatopia.com

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                                                                                  • BJ
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                    • 5590

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    alky, I shit bigger than you and can prove... up for the challenge?

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                                                                                    • stile
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                                      • 600

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Camwhores: 65,000+ visitors per day.

                                                                                      You obviously saw how popular and successful we are and just wanted to get a piece of the pie.

                                                                                      As for our HTML, we strive to make it as low-fi and simple as possible. It's just our style.

                                                                                      As for concept, besides the archiving, you have stolen every single unique and original feature that we came up with months ago, and you're just riding on our coat tails.

                                                                                      Well now that the gloves are off, prepare to take a beating. I'm going to fuck you so hard your moms ass is gunna hurt.

                                                                                      Originally posted by Alky
                                                                                      Well I just got home from AC with localg and having a good time and all. thanks stile for your unique critisim on my site, i appreciate it. when you get past your 3rd grade HTML skills, and paying Kevin to do all your coding let me know.


                                                                                      Oh and original idea? You have got to be kidding me. Keep making your life based on per raw to your sites. Have a good one.


                                                                                      Mike - Very intoxicated
                                                                                      Camatopia.com

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                                                                                      • DamnFineOnline
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                        • 348

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by stile
                                                                                        Camwhores: 65,000+ visitors per day.

                                                                                        You obviously saw how popular and successful we are and just wanted to get a piece of the pie.

                                                                                        As for our HTML, we strive to make it as low-fi and simple as possible. It's just our style.

                                                                                        As for concept, besides the archiving, you have stolen every single unique and original feature that we came up with months ago, and you're just riding on our coat tails.

                                                                                        Well now that the gloves are off, prepare to take a beating. I'm going to fuck you so hard your moms ass is gunna hurt.

                                                                                        Nice attitude... So much for webmasters helping each other out.

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                                                                                        • stile
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                                          • 600

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I'm just busting your balls ;) I just like playing Clint Eastwood.

                                                                                          How do you think we could help each other out?

                                                                                          Originally posted by DamnFineOnline


                                                                                          Nice attitude... So much for webmasters helping each other out.

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                                                                                          • Pipecrew
                                                                                            Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                            • 14888

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I think the 70 girls camatopia has now will be doubled or tripled shortly......... look at the name difference........ I think people would rather be promoted on a site called camatopia instead of
                                                                                            camWHORES ?

                                                                                            Either way its a good concept and I know some bigger companies are coming out with these exact ideas and have the traffic to blow everything else (competition wise) out of the water

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                                                                                            • pr0
                                                                                              rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                              • 23088

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by stile
                                                                                              You obviously saw how popular and successful we are and just wanted to get a piece of the pie.
                                                                                              I suppose you could say the same thing about everyone that got into porn.
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                                                                                              • stile
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Sep 2001
                                                                                                • 600

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                We've been around for 3 years... It takes a long time to build up a site and gain a reputation. We're the largest portal on the 'net, and as for names, I think CamWhores is a fucking awesome name. It was a term used to describe cam people before the site was even around.

                                                                                                As for the bigger companies, you're right, but we keep innovating and creating original ideas that set the standards which other people rip off and follow. Besides the cam archiving feature on Camatopia, everything else was an original feature that we were using first that they just blatantly copied. That's a fact.

                                                                                                Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                                                I think the 70 girls camatopia has now will be doubled or tripled shortly......... look at the name difference........ I think people would rather be promoted on a site called camatopia instead of
                                                                                                camWHORES ?

                                                                                                Either way its a good concept and I know some bigger companies are coming out with these exact ideas and have the traffic to blow everything else (competition wise) out of the water

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                                                                                                • stile
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                                                  • 600

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  You're making a generalization; I was being extremely specific.

                                                                                                  Originally posted by pr0


                                                                                                  I suppose you could say the same thing about everyone that got into porn.

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                                                                                                  • pornJester
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                                                    • 6138

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by stile
                                                                                                    You're making a generalization; I was being extremely specific.

                                                                                                    the best ideas are stolen, the key is to modify them and make them better.. it's called progress...


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