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  • BusterBunny
    perverted justice decoy
    • Aug 2005
    • 19291
    #151
    Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
    Really? What'd you get? I like their toasted subs. Stopped eating them for awhile because of those roadkill-with-mouths commercials.
    just the standard issue turkey and cheddar toasted spiel with mustard, mayo, onions and lettuce...the i went for their $5 size but was only 99cents for twice as much so i went with that

    edit........woa i hit 150 lol wasnt trying that time
    my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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      • DarkJedi
        No Refunds Issued.
        • Feb 2001
        • 28301
        #152
        Originally posted by john_63
        shut the fuck up and down. roboform did this to us.
        did roboform also put these two sites on the same IP?

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          • Dirty F
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 59204
            #153
            I know if someone fucked me over like this the first thing i would do is clear my name by showing proof i was not involved whatsoever.

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              • D Ghost
                null
                • May 2006
                • 9819
                #154
                Originally posted by Dirty F
                Why don't you out these people and clear your name? Show us all proof of what they did and make sure noone works with them again.

                Why don't you? What's stopping you? Unless you do this all the bad shit will point your way.
                Use the part of your brain that enables you to think logically and you will be fine...

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                  • GrouchyAdmin
                    Now choke yourself!
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 12085
                    #155
                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                    Why don't you out these people and clear your name? Show us all proof of what they did and make sure noone works with them again.

                    Why don't you? What's stopping you? Unless you do this all the bad shit will point your way.
                    He has nothing to prove, you jackass. Someone signed up with someone else's credit card. That never, ever, ever happens in this industry.. and holy shit, they defrauded a well known program to do it.. and that program not only gets the chargeback, but shit on. I love this fucking industry.

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                      • DarkJedi
                        No Refunds Issued.
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 28301
                        #156
                        Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                        If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

                        The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.
                        So what are you saying? That PR_Daves card got stolen and used to buy a membership at your program?

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                          • D Ghost
                            null
                            • May 2006
                            • 9819
                            #157
                            Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                            He has nothing to prove, you jackass. Someone signed up with someone else's credit card. That never, ever, ever happens in this industry.. and holy shit, they defrauded a well known program to do it.. and that program not only gets the chargeback, but shit on. I love this fucking industry.
                            Hey someone uses logic!

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                              • GrouchyAdmin
                                Now choke yourself!
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 12085
                                #158
                                Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                did roboform also put these two sites on the same IP?

                                Post proof, or I will request your ban.

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                                  • GrouchyAdmin
                                    Now choke yourself!
                                    • Apr 2006
                                    • 12085
                                    #159
                                    ...or will I request an apology and a toasted sandwhich?

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                                      • DarkJedi
                                        No Refunds Issued.
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 28301
                                        #160
                                        Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                        Post proof, or I will request your ban.
                                        Proof of what? That these two sites are on the same server?

                                        LOL

                                        here: http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-i...ourtech101.com

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                                          • D Ghost
                                            null
                                            • May 2006
                                            • 9819
                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                            ...or will I request an apology and a toasted sandwhich?

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                                              • Dirty F
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 59204
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                Hey someone uses logic!
                                                If you did nothing wrong why did you say multiple times "we made mistakes and we cleaned things up".

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                                                  • D Ghost
                                                    null
                                                    • May 2006
                                                    • 9819
                                                    #163
                                                    Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                    Proof of what? That these two sites are on the same server?

                                                    LOL

                                                    here: http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-i...ourtech101.com

                                                    thats not the point man, you obviously still dont understand... try reading the last 25 posts or so....

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                                                      • GrouchyAdmin
                                                        Now choke yourself!
                                                        • Apr 2006
                                                        • 12085
                                                        #164
                                                        Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                        If you did nothing wrong why did you say multiple times "we made mistakes and we cleaned things up".
                                                        Odd, your mother's been making that apology for years now, and nobody questions her.

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                                                          • BusterBunny
                                                            perverted justice decoy
                                                            • Aug 2005
                                                            • 19291
                                                            #165
                                                            Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                            ...or will I request an apology and a toasted sandwhich?
                                                            fuck i ate the sandwich so i have no proof of it's existence...unless you wanna check my poo
                                                            my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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                                                              • D Ghost
                                                                null
                                                                • May 2006
                                                                • 9819
                                                                #166
                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                If you did nothing wrong why did you say multiple times "we made mistakes and we cleaned things up".
                                                                I was referring to our join forms....

                                                                stated that earlier in thread...
                                                                Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                I've already explained to you what we cleaned up on our join pages...
                                                                Last edited by D Ghost; 02-10-2009, 05:25 PM.

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                                                                  • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                    Now choke yourself!
                                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                                    • 12085
                                                                    #167
                                                                    Originally posted by BusterBunny
                                                                    fuck i ate the sandwich so i have no proof of it's existence...unless you wanna check my poo
                                                                    I'd probably start in more obvious places, like checking the trash for the wrapper. The only person I see who'd gladly crawl up your ass with no shred of proof is our resident nutbag here.

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                                                                      • stickyfingerz
                                                                        Doin fine
                                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                                        • 24984
                                                                        #168
                                                                        Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                        I hear DJ once apologized for ordering a sandwhich. He's part of the pizza cartel. Confirm/Deny?
                                                                        I want one of those big burgers we had that time with the dopey Asian guy. What was that place called?

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                                                                          • Dirty F
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 59204
                                                                            #169
                                                                            Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                            Proof of what? That these two site on the same server?

                                                                            LOL

                                                                            here: http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-i...ourtech101.com

                                                                            It's useless. They lie, bullshit, bend the truth, refuse to tell certain things etc.

                                                                            Everyone by now can see it's a huge clusterfuck with many people and many companies involved and it's clear noone is gonna spill the beans.

                                                                            I'm happy with the way this thread went. It did exactly what i hoped for. Archivecash telling lies and bullshit and basically showing everyone what a crap is going on there.

                                                                            In 1 post they admit making mistakes, the other they did they didn't. 1 post they are not involved with other companies, the other they are. Everyone is telling a different story, theyre mentioning names of people that are from movies, a rogue employee or 2, roboform and the list goes on and on and on...I think nobody can deny anymore (besides the people involved directly in this shit as they are full of shit) that this is as shady as it can get. All the proof is in this thread.

                                                                            I'm done for now.

                                                                            I'll bump it a few times later if i don't get banned.
                                                                            Last edited by Dirty F; 02-10-2009, 05:28 PM.

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                                                                              • DarkJedi
                                                                                No Refunds Issued.
                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 28301
                                                                                #170
                                                                                Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                                thats not the point man, you obviously still dont understand... try reading the last 25 posts or so....
                                                                                Please sir, help me understand.

                                                                                Here are the facts:

                                                                                - PR_Dave's credit card got banged by www.yourtech101.com
                                                                                - yourtech101.com belongs to www.archivecash.com


                                                                                Seems pretty much straightforward.

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                                                                                  • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                    Now choke yourself!
                                                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                                                    • 12085
                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                    I want one of those big burgers we had that time with the dopey Asian guy. What was that place called?
                                                                                    Ah shit, I don't remember. Those were awesome. It was the second casado place across from the US Embassy. The chicken place around the corner was a lot tastier, though.

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                                                                                      • Agent 488
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                                        • 22511
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        so another company was using stolen cards to card archive cash?

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                                                                                          • Dirty F
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 59204
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                                            I was referring to our join forms....

                                                                                            stated that earlier in thread...
                                                                                            Uhm no you said in response to Dave thread where his card got band that "we made mistakes". His card got banged by the rogue signup page now?

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                                                                                              • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                Now choke yourself!
                                                                                                • Apr 2006
                                                                                                • 12085
                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                It's useless. They lie, bullshit, bend the truth, refuse to tell certain things etc.

                                                                                                Everyone by now can see it's a huge clusterfuck with many people and many companies involved and it's clear noone is gonna spill the beans.

                                                                                                I'm happy with the way this thread went. It did exactly what i hoped for. Archivecash telling lies and bullshit and basically showing everyone what a crap is going on there.

                                                                                                In 1 post they admit making mistakes, the other they did they didn't. 1 post they are not involved with other companies, the other they are. Everyone is telling a different story, theyre mentioning names of people that are from movies, a rogue employee or 2, roboform and the list goes on and on and] on...I think nobody can deny anymore (besides the people involved directly in this shit as they are full of shit) that this is as shady as it can get. All the proof is in this thread.

                                                                                                I'm done for now.

                                                                                                I'll bump it a few times later if i don't get banned.
                                                                                                No, I think I'll request your ban now. Thanks for playing.

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                                                                                                  • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                    Doin fine
                                                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                                                    • 24984
                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                    Ah shit, I don't remember. Those were awesome. It was the second casado place across from the US Embassy. The chicken place around the corner was a lot tastier, though.
                                                                                                    Well shit, was the chicken place closed when we went? How are ye take me to a sub standard food place.. lol The Asian guy ate at least 2 of them big fuckers. lol

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                                                                                                      • Agent 488
                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                                                        • 22511
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        or pr dave signed up for an archive cash site and kept getting banged by archive cash?

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                                                                                                          • D Ghost
                                                                                                            null
                                                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                                                            • 9819
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                            It's useless. They lie, bullshit, bend the truth, refuse to tell certain things etc.

                                                                                                            Everyone by now can see it's a huge clusterfuck with many people and many companies involved and it's clear noone is gonna spill the beans.

                                                                                                            I'm happy with the way this thread went. It did exactly what i hoped for. Archivecash telling lies and bullshit and basically showing everyone what a crap is going on there.

                                                                                                            In 1 post they admit making mistakes, the other they did they didn't. 1 post they are not involved with other companies, the other they are. Everyone is telling a different story, theyre mentioning names of people that are from movies, a rogue employee or 2, roboform and the list goes on and on and on...I think nobody can deny anymore (besides the people involved directly in this shit as they are full of shit) that this is as shady as it can get. All the proof is in this thread.

                                                                                                            I'm done for now.

                                                                                                            I'll bump it a few times later if i don't get banned.

                                                                                                            We haven't lied about a single thing....

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                                                                                                              • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                Now choke yourself!
                                                                                                                • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                • 12085
                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                Well shit, was the chicken place closed when we went? How are ye take me to a sub standard food place.. lol The Asian guy ate at least 2 of them big fuckers. lol
                                                                                                                Yeah, they closed early for some reason. She was still open. That asian guy was funny as shit. I thought to myself "Sticky went a long way to get a new pet." You never did tell me how horrific the hotel room was.

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                                                                                                                  • john_63
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                    • 517
                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                                                                                    or pr dave signed up for an archive cash site and kept getting banged by archive cash?
                                                                                                                    dense? roboform banged daves card.

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                                                                                                                      • DarkJedi
                                                                                                                        No Refunds Issued.
                                                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                        • 28301
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                        No, I think I'll request your ban now. Thanks for playing.
                                                                                                                        Ban for what? Everything he said seems to be true.

                                                                                                                        ArchiveCash are so caught up in their bullshit, they can't figure out what story they should stick to

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                                                                                                                          • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                            Now choke yourself!
                                                                                                                            • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                            • 12085
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                                                                            Ban for what? Everything he said seems to be true.

                                                                                                                            ArchiveCash are so caught up in their bullshit, they can't figure out what story they should stick to
                                                                                                                            Banned for accusations without proof. Now, what were you trying to prove with your screenshot? Can we get a 2 for 1?

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                                                                                                                              • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                                Now choke yourself!
                                                                                                                                • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                • 12085
                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                Banburgers are the most delicious bugers of them all.

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                                                                                                                                  • Agent 488
                                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                    • 22511
                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by john_63
                                                                                                                                    dense? roboform banged daves card.
                                                                                                                                    roboform should be banned then.

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                                                                                                                                      • D Ghost
                                                                                                                                        null
                                                                                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                                                                                        • 9819
                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                                        He has nothing to prove, you jackass. Someone signed up with someone else's credit card. That never, ever, ever happens in this industry.. and holy shit, they defrauded a well known program to do it.. and that program not only gets the chargeback, but shit on. I love this fucking industry.
                                                                                                                                        what he said....

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                                                                                                                                          • DarkJedi
                                                                                                                                            No Refunds Issued.
                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 28301
                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                                            Now, what were you trying to prove with your screenshot? Can we get a 2 for 1?
                                                                                                                                            Why don't you scroll up and read, idiot.

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                                                                                                                                              • mrkris
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                • 2737
                                                                                                                                                #186
                                                                                                                                                I don't know about any relationship with these companies but I can, from reading and basic understanding, come up with these few points.

                                                                                                                                                1. There was a xsell setup between I$ and ArchiveCash
                                                                                                                                                2. A (possible?) fraudulent charge was made to ArchiveCash by I$
                                                                                                                                                3. Since there is no system to validate whether a sale from a xsell is legit or not, it went through.
                                                                                                                                                4. PRDave posts that he got nailed by ArchiveCash (of course, the xsell ...)

                                                                                                                                                Now, as far as DJ saying that ArchiveCash made mistakes and are cleaning up, I can only assume by the points I came up with that:

                                                                                                                                                1. ArchiveCash realized the shady relationship
                                                                                                                                                2. ArchiveCash is not allowing the xsells, hence, the "cleaning up".

                                                                                                                                                I could be wrong. I could be right, but Frank, you should consider providing proof that they banged PRDaves card outside of the xsell, rather than requesting they prove they did not.
                                                                                                                                                Last edited by mrkris; 02-10-2009, 05:41 PM. Reason: typo

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                                                                                                                                                  • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                                                    Now choke yourself!
                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                    • 12085
                                                                                                                                                    #187
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                                                                                                    Why don't you scroll up and read, idiot.
                                                                                                                                                    Holy fuck? Several domains on a single IP! Someone call the feds.

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                                                                                                                                                      • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                                                        Now choke yourself!
                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                        • 12085
                                                                                                                                                        #188
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by mrkris
                                                                                                                                                        I could be wrong. I could be write, but Frank, you should consider providing proof that they banged PRDaves card outside of the xsell, rather than requesting them prove they did not.
                                                                                                                                                        'sup kris? How's your burger?

                                                                                                                                                        Edit: You edited your post. How do I know I can trust you?

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                                                                                                                                                          • DarkJedi
                                                                                                                                                            No Refunds Issued.
                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 28301
                                                                                                                                                            #189
                                                                                                                                                            SINCE WE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF MORONS HERE, LETS RECAP AGAIN:


                                                                                                                                                            HERE ARE THE FACTS:

                                                                                                                                                            - PR_Dave's credit card got banged by www.yourtech101.com

                                                                                                                                                            - yourtech101.com belongs to www.archivecash.com



                                                                                                                                                            I have spoke with the owner of Archive Cash and he let me know that the person responsible for this bullshit has been removed from the company.
                                                                                                                                                            What bullshit? You're now saying that PR_Dave's credit card got stolen and was used to buy a membership at Archivecash.com (wow, what a councidence!)

                                                                                                                                                            So what are you apologising for and what was the 'rogue employee' fired for?

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                                                                                                                                                              • john_63
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                                • 517
                                                                                                                                                                #190

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                    • 59204
                                                                                                                                                                    #191
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by mrkris
                                                                                                                                                                    I don't know about any relationship with these companies but I can, from reading and basic understanding, come up with these few points.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. There was a xsell setup between I$ and ArchiveCash
                                                                                                                                                                    2. A (possible?) fraudulent charge was made to ArchiveCash by I$
                                                                                                                                                                    3. Since there is no system to validate whether a sale from a xsell is legit or not, it went through.
                                                                                                                                                                    4. PRDave posts that he got nailed by ArchiveCash (of course, the xsell ...)

                                                                                                                                                                    Now, as far as DJ saying that ArchiveCash made mistakes and are cleaning up, I can only assume by the points I came up with that:

                                                                                                                                                                    1. ArchiveCash realized the shady relationship
                                                                                                                                                                    2. ArchiveCash is not allowing the xsells, hence, the "cleaning up".

                                                                                                                                                                    I could be wrong. I could be write, but Frank, you should consider providing proof that they banged PRDaves card outside of the xsell, rather than requesting them prove they did not.
                                                                                                                                                                    Even if this is right why refuse to tell this? The only thing i can see is that Dave got charges from THEIR domain. If that isn't the case and I$ is behind this for some reason why don't they show this to us?

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                                                                                                                                                                      • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                                        making it rain
                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 22369
                                                                                                                                                                        #192
                                                                                                                                                                        I've never been quoted so many times in a thread... Should I be flattered?

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                                                                                                                                                                          • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                            • 28301
                                                                                                                                                                            #193
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                                                                            Holy fuck? Several domains on a single IP! Someone call the feds.
                                                                                                                                                                            Are you denying that the two domains are owned by the same company?

                                                                                                                                                                            yourtech101.com
                                                                                                                                                                            archivecash.com

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 59204
                                                                                                                                                                                #194
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                                                                                                                                SINCE WE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF MORONS HERE, LETS RECAP AGAIN:


                                                                                                                                                                                HERE ARE THE FACTS:

                                                                                                                                                                                - PR_Dave's credit card got banged by www.yourtech101.com

                                                                                                                                                                                - yourtech101.com belongs to www.archivecash.com





                                                                                                                                                                                What bullshit? You're now saying that PR_Dave's credit card got stolen and was used to buy a membership at Archivecash.com (wow, what a councidence!)

                                                                                                                                                                                So what are you apologising for and what was the 'rogue employee' fired for?
                                                                                                                                                                                Now it's a rogue employee again? I thought it was another company doing it to them? At least according to them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 59204
                                                                                                                                                                                    #195
                                                                                                                                                                                    Why would they come up with SO many different bs stories if they are not to blame?

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • D Ghost
                                                                                                                                                                                        null
                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 9819
                                                                                                                                                                                        #196
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                                                                                                                                        Are you denying that the two domains are owned by the same company?

                                                                                                                                                                                        yourtech101.com
                                                                                                                                                                                        archivecash.com
                                                                                                                                                                                        No, he's mocking you....

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                                                            making it rain
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 22369
                                                                                                                                                                                            #197
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                                            Even if this is right why refuse to tell this? The only thing i can see is that Dave got charges from THEIR domain. If that isn't the case and I$ is behind this for some reason why don't they show this to us?
                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't really know the details here, but I'd guess based on the type of responses that they were instructed not to by their lawyers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 28301
                                                                                                                                                                                                #198
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                                                Even if this is right why refuse to tell this? The only thing i can see is that Dave got charges from THEIR domain. If that isn't the case and I$ is behind this for some reason why don't they show this to us?
                                                                                                                                                                                                How can I$ be responsible for this if Dave's card GOT BANGED BY ARCHIVECHASH.COM?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • mrkris
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 2737
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Even if this is right why refuse to tell this? The only thing i can see is that Dave got charges from THEIR domain. If that isn't the case and I$ is behind this for some reason why don't they show this to us?
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Since when has any drama been solved with a straight forward response in adult?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • potter
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 6559
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Again, I will attempt to explain this in as tiny of words as possible.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Card goes into Site A with cross sales opted in.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Site A sends charges for Site A on Site A merchant, also to Site B's merchant.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Site B charges on Site B's merchant, because they are Site B.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Tomorrow, Class, we will cover Subtraction, Addition's tricky pal.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Isn't this illegal? I thought both Visa and Mastercard specifically state you cannot share/distribute card holder information between different merchants.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If someone signs up for site A. They can legally be charged for site B,C,D,E - so long as those sites use the same merchant account. When you purchase something through one merchant you are only agreeing to pay that merchant and that merchant cannot legally send your information to a different merchant for processing. - That is basically sharing credit card information and that is illegal. Just because you are a merchant, you don't have rights to anyone and everyone's credit card information.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Say a legit company like Comcast had a deal with Best Buy. You buy something at Best Buy, you get one month free at Comcast. Best Buy's merchant cannot take card holder information from the Best Buy transaction and give it to Comcast's merchant. If they're on two different merchant accounts, Best Buy would give you some sort of coupon or direction to go directly to Comcast's merchant and provide your info. From THERE you would technically sign up for the free month, and provide credit card info.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        - Actually I recall best buy doing this with magazine subscriptions a while back. When you signed up for the free subscriptions. You got your free subscriptions and at the end of the free cycle, you received purchase information from the magazine directly. You then have to manually give the magazine company's merchant your credit card information. It was legal for Best Buy to give the magazine company your "personal" info with your opt in. It was not legal for Best Buy to give the magazine company your credit card info.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If the adult industry is really sending card holder information between different merchants. And I'm right that this is illegal. Then this business is long down the drain and these companies information need to be sent to the authorities and not just "called out" on GFY or other boards.

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