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02-07-2009, 05:10 PM

what's the range on payout %'s for camgirls these days? GROSS % i'm talking about - not NET - if a customer spends 100 dollars on a girl what % goes to her AFTER everything has been deducted from her.

i was looking at this new cam site that's been posted here recently .....

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Payouts can be up to 45% of the "net revenue" collected by Metro Babes (The actual percentage is determined by the Models.) Net revenue is equal to total revenue collected minus a 25% marketing fee and a 10% merchant processing fee

so on this site the cam girl receives up to 45% of the 65% remaining after the marketing and processing fees are deducted. So the gross payout % to the talent is about 30%.

how does that compare with other cam sites?

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02-07-2009, 05:20 PM

From my experience,once you take out all the bullshit most good established sites average around 30 percent.

A model though shouldnt really concentrate on the percentage as l have seen sites offering 40-50 percent but almost no traffic.....

The secret is traffic and spenders for girls and if your a webmaster l guess amount and quality of girls that are online.

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02-07-2009, 05:23 PM

well that's true - if a site has no traffic even 100% of nothing is nothing.

so 30% is standard on cam sites with spending traffic?

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02-07-2009, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Mutt

so on this site the cam girl receives up to 45% of the 65% remaining after the marketing and processing fees are deducted. So the gross payout % to the talent is about 30%.

how does that compare with other cam sites?

That is a joke of a rate. Especially for a new site. If that does not change they will fail big

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02-07-2009, 05:31 PM

some even offer as low as 20%.......

I like that you are checking into my our new shit though, horaaaay threads about http://www.metrobabes.com

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02-07-2009, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Mutt

so 30% is standard on cam sites with spending traffic?

No, it's not.

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02-07-2009, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Penny Flame

some even offer as low as 20%.......

I like that you are checking into my our new shit though, horaaaay threads about http://www.metrobabes.com

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What site offers 20%?

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02-07-2009, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Ethersync

That is a joke of a rate. Especially for a new site. If that does not change they will fail big

well then let's see these sites that pay out more - after all deductions. anybody can say 50%, 60%, etc and in the end still wind up actually paying out 30%.

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02-07-2009, 05:38 PM

We pay our US performers 40% on PrivateCamZ - they choose their rates and they keep a full 40% of every penny earned.

For our performers who have a website and perform on both PrivateCamZ and AmateurCamZ, we pay 50%, and again that's the entire 50%. Nothing is removed from their cut.

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02-07-2009, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Mutt

well then let's see these sites that pay out more - after all deductions. anybody can say 50%, 60%, etc and in the end still wind up actually paying out 30%.

Webcams.com 40%
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02-07-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by XXXTV Claire

From my experience,once you take out all the bullshit most good established sites average around 30 percent.

A model though shouldnt really concentrate on the percentage as l have seen sites offering 40-50 percent but almost no traffic.....

The secret is traffic and spenders for girls and if your a webmaster l guess amount and quality of girls that are online.

I agree. 30 percent sounds like reasonable.

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02-07-2009, 05:42 PM

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What site offers 20%?

you're right, I have no clue, was told that by one of the random am girls I met the other night at Blue Moon. No clue who she was, so my point is null and void.

Way to call me out.

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02-07-2009, 05:45 PM

we're paying 40%-75% to models. All models start at 50%, its up to them to work and either go up in % or down in %.
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02-07-2009, 06:00 PM

The percentage paid is definately something to consider, but as mentioned before, traffic and alternative income stream opportunities should also be considered. Does the site offer "replays" or vod of previous shows? Can the model have multiple paying viewers at the same time? Is there a "website" section for each model to sell, for when she is not online? Does she have a shopping cart on site to sell tangibles and DVD's? All of these add-ons can make a low percentage for "live time" more attractive ...

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02-07-2009, 06:33 PM

I have told all my cam girls % means NOTHING.

One cam company can pay 25% but have so much traffic and guys that get Long privates at $4.99+ a minute, compared to
a cam company that pays 60% and the girl sites there all day for one private at $2.99 a minute.

Hell the per minute part doesn't even matter.

What matters is what is the girl making per hour on average for the WEEK. Good days and bad days.

Second how big of a check does she bring home at the end of the week for amount of time put in. Yes those 2 are the same thing, but models always think differently.

BUT no matter how many times I preach this, a girl will always say, hey I found a com company that pays 80%, so they want to change, do all the paperwork, invest time to learn the new system, and she ends up making Less than the cam company she was currently on.

One thing also to keep in mind, different cam companys just like TGP's have different traffic, but in the end a cam girl is only looking for a Whale or 12, lol

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02-07-2009, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Mutt

well then let's see these sites that pay out more - after all deductions. anybody can say 50%, 60%, etc and in the end still wind up actually paying out 30%.

Most cams that I know of do not take out deductions. They will as expected take out refunds and chargebacks. Up to the model to help keep fraud down also!

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02-07-2009, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by myjah

We pay our US performers 40% on PrivateCamZ - they choose their rates and they keep a full 40% of every penny earned.

For our performers who have a website and perform on both PrivateCamZ and AmateurCamZ, we pay 50%, and again that's the entire 50%. Nothing is removed from their cut.

Camz is awesome. I have been with them for almost 4 years now. I am paid 50%. The full 50%. Highest payout that I have seen yet from a cam site.
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02-07-2009, 10:44 PM

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02-07-2009, 11:04 PM

We give models 50-70% on camwithher, icgirls, nudeadultcams, nonnudecams, etc. depending on their online time. They can also get a 10% bonus if they refer their own customers.

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02-07-2009, 11:09 PM

if cams are your core business how can you pay a girl 70%? Processing is another 10-13%, bandwidth, overhead - you're left with 5-10%

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02-07-2009, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Mutt

what's the range on payout %'s for camgirls these days? GROSS % i'm talking about - not NET - if a customer spends 100 dollars on a girl what % goes to her AFTER everything has been deducted from her.

i was looking at this new cam site that's been posted here recently .....

Payout Percentages

Payouts can be up to 45% of the "net revenue" collected by Metro Babes (The actual percentage is determined by the Models.) Net revenue is equal to total revenue collected minus a 25% marketing fee and a 10% merchant processing fee

so on this site the cam girl receives up to 45% of the 65% remaining after the marketing and processing fees are deducted. So the gross payout % to the talent is about 30%.

how does that compare with other cam sites?

Most pat 30-40% of what they charge the customer. I've seen sites that offer more, but these r usually sites that the cam girl wouldn't make very much due to not enough traffic or stuff like that.

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02-07-2009, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by GotGauge

I have told all my cam girls % means NOTHING.

One cam company can pay 25% but have so much traffic and guys that get Long privates at $4.99+ a minute, compared to
a cam company that pays 60% and the girl sites there all day for one private at $2.99 a minute.

Hell the per minute part doesn't even matter.

What matters is what is the girl making per hour on average for the WEEK. Good days and bad days.

Second how big of a check does she bring home at the end of the week for amount of time put in. Yes those 2 are the same thing, but models always think differently.

BUT no matter how many times I preach this, a girl will always say, hey I found a com company that pays 80%, so they want to change, do all the paperwork, invest time to learn the new system, and she ends up making Less than the cam company she was currently on.

One thing also to keep in mind, different cam companys just like TGP's have different traffic, but in the end a cam girl is only looking for a Whale or 12, lol

Hope this helps!

LOL I get this a lot from my girls also. Webcams.com pays out 40% but I keep 10 and give my girls 30. Every once in awhile they will come to me with some small brand new camsite and say "well they pay 50%!" and I tell them "honey, 50% of nothing is nothing." I even tell them to try it out if they want, they always come back to my studio The bottom line and most important thing is HOURS spent on their cam and their TOTAL at the end of the pay period.

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02-08-2009, 02:35 AM

As far as I know, AdultWork.com still pay 70%. They have no affiliate program that I'm aware of, but they get pretty decent traffic. Hundreds of cam girls, but also escorts and phone sex, and most of them are UK girls.

Cam models can choose whether they want to do their shows on site, or on their MSN/Yahoo.

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02-08-2009, 02:41 AM

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02-08-2009, 02:43 AM

Sorry, they do have a "referrer scheme". But dont get excited. Its like 1-2%

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02-08-2009, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by GotGauge

I have told all my cam girls % means NOTHING.

One cam company can pay 25% but have so much traffic and guys that get Long privates at $4.99+ a minute, compared to
a cam company that pays 60% and the girl sites there all day for one private at $2.99 a minute.

Hell the per minute part doesn't even matter.

What matters is what is the girl making per hour on average for the WEEK. Good days and bad days.

Second how big of a check does she bring home at the end of the week for amount of time put in. Yes those 2 are the same thing, but models always think differently.

BUT no matter how many times I preach this, a girl will always say, hey I found a com company that pays 80%, so they want to change, do all the paperwork, invest time to learn the new system, and she ends up making Less than the cam company she was currently on.

One thing also to keep in mind, different cam companys just like TGP's have different traffic, but in the end a cam girl is only looking for a Whale or 12, lol

Hope this helps!

I do not know of any sites that pay less than 30% and those that successfully pay 30%, and I only can recall one, have been around for years and have a lot of traffic. A new site offering 30% is going to fail unless they have some other way to bribe models to keep them on the site. You are right that new sites, with little to no traffic, are usually the ones offering the biggest percentage and most of the time they go nowhere.

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02-08-2009, 05:57 AM

Agreed % doesn't mean shit, check their traffic, you see these new fly by night cam sites come up with huge payouts to get girls, but then they just sit there half dressed doing nothing because the traffic is cheap with no paying members. There's more to running a cam company then just getting girls.

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02-08-2009, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by AaliyahLove

. ..Every once in awhile they will come to me with some small brand new camsite and say "well they pay 50%!" and I tell them "honey, 50% of nothing is nothing.".. .

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02-08-2009, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by Ethersync

I do not know of any sites that pay less than 30% and those that successfully pay 30%, and I only can recall one, have been around for years and have a lot of traffic. A new site offering 30% is going to fail unless they have some other way to bribe models to keep them on the site. You are right that new sites, with little to no traffic, are usually the ones offering the biggest percentage and most of the time they go nowhere.

I should of posted that my numbers are for examples only!
Just showing that %'s do NOT matter, but try to tell a girl that.
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02-08-2009, 10:03 AM

We pay 30% which I think is a fair share

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02-08-2009, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by LeRoy

We pay 30% which I think is a fair share

You also have been in business around 6 years and only have 25 models online right now. Webcams.com has been around for about half as long, pays 40%, and usually has 400 to 500 models online at any given time. I think it's safe to assume they are way more profitable than your site too...

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