by looking at this thread it seems that Vegas will be fun!!!
Can't wait
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Sorry, I missed that definition.Originally posted by DrewKole
and "A person who works for another in return for financial or other compensation"
Where's your defense there? You can't defend your case half assed, use both definitions.
My defense: I DON'T WORK FOR ANOTHER! Yes, I receive compensation from others, but not for my work. If the work I do for myself happens to make them money too, that doesn't mean I am working for them.
I suppose when you walk into a McDonalds, you are looking at a bunch of YOUR employees, right? I mean, those people are working for you, by preparing and serving you fast food, right?This place is too big.Comment
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Don't raise your voice with me...
If you looked up earlier, I agreed with amp... I said definition says this, common sense says this...
Id go with common sense over definition, to each their own tho... You can't dismiss the point, you can definitely take the more logical stance on it thoughComment
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Is this a good place to take a piss?
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!Comment
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Merriam-Webster
Employee
Function: noun
Date: 1822
: one employed by another usually for wages or salary and in a position below the executive level.
Employ
Function: transitive verb
Date: 15th century
1 a : to make use of (someone or something inactive) <employ a pen for sketching> b : to use (as time) advantageously c (1) : to use or engage the services of (2) : to provide with a job that pays wages or a salary
2 : to devote to or direct toward a particular activity or person <employed all her energies to help the poor>Comment
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Hahah. Don't you understand there's a difference between "working for someone" (as in that Webster definition) and selling a product, be it a Bigmac or an adult design for a paysite?Originally posted by DrewKole
Don't raise your voice with me...
If you looked up earlier, I agreed with amp... I said definition says this, common sense says this...
Id go with common sense over definition, to each their own tho... You can't dismiss the point, you can definitely take the more logical stance on it though
There's nothing wrong with the webster definition, but you don't even understand what is meant by "working for someone". That knowledge would be required in order to understand the definition in the first place..
LOL
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Stubborn
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English stuborn
Date: 14th century
1 a (1) : unreasonably or perversely unyielding : MULISH (2) : justifiably unyielding : RESOLUTE b : suggestive or typical of a strong stubborn nature <a stubborn jaw>
2 : performed or carried on in an unyielding, obstinate, or persistent manner <stubborn effort>
3 : difficult to handle, manage, or treat <a stubborn cold>
4 : LASTING <stubborn facts>
Websters is great
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You just wasted 10 seconds of my time, and a fraction of a cent of Len's money...Originally posted by mika
Hahah. Don't you understand there's a difference between "working for someone" (as in that Webster definition) and selling a product, be it a Bigmac or an adult design for a paysite?
There's nothing wrong with the webster definition, but you don't even understand what is meant by "working for someone". That knowledge would be required in order to understand the definition in the first place..
LOL
One of the funniest threads
You owe both of us an apology, next time, please respond with something that makes sense, because your retort is the most idiotic thing I've ever read.
I understand the definition just fine, you're wrong, I'm not the stubborn one, because I understand the definition just fine, you can try and riverdance around it all you want, but thats just it... people who make have a higher IQ than you created that definition...
Call yourself the queen of england... still doesn't do anything for your defense of the definition.Last edited by DrewKole; 10-07-2002, 06:53 AM.Comment
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you are a homoOriginally posted by DrewKole
You just wasted 10 seconds of my time, and a fraction of a cent of Len's money...
You owe both of us an apology, next time, please respond with something that makes sense, because your retort is the most idiotic thing I've ever read.
I understand the definition just fine, you're wrong, I'm right.Comment
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Originally posted by pimpdog3
you are a homo
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I must say Drew....GREAT PUBLICITY....Brad would be proud!
See how long you can keep this thread going with these idiots...and make sure your sig line has our new Bum Circus and Gay Glory Hole feeds!!
I better get back to work now before Brad cracks the whip on me
Yes, I am Mrs. Shaw ;)Comment
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You should apologize to whoever is your employer because he wasted his money on you...Originally posted by DrewKole
You just wasted 10 seconds of my time, and a fraction of a cent of Len's money...
Let's assume you sell traffic to a sponsor. Are you his employee? No way. This is common sense- we agree. But you also say that by the definition from dictionary.com we all actually "work for another" and are, thus, employees. I disagree.
If I sell traffic to a sponsor, i don't work FOR him. I work FOR myself and I'm selling the product of my work to ANOTHER. Notice the difference between working for ANOTHER and working for YOURSELF.
How the hell is the education in USA anyways? Did someone say you're a college graduate? LOLComment
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Erm, just keep telling yourself that Mika...
You work on a commission basis, which implies employment by definition. Rather than selling traffic at a set price per "traffic" you are receiving comission for once someone signs up.
By that argument you could say that you are selling traffic it the price is set, and doesn't require any further action by the person you sent...
So I guess someone that does per click proggies solely could argue that, but you unless you do, you can't.
You can keep responding here, with what everyone else has already said, or you could attempt to come up with some intelligent thought, because I'm just repeating myself to yet another idiot here.
Like I said, by common sense, you aren't an employee, by definition you are...
How about you bother to read all the posts, before commenting? my guess is you got through the first page, lost direction, saw a fluffy bunny run across the screen, and then attempted to retort with something that made sense, not realizing 10 other people said the same thing, and were responded to.
My guess is you have a small penis... It may be easier and more beneficial for you to go to http://www.penispills.com or buy a porsche, than try and impress people here with what you think is intelligent banter.
And yes, I have a college degree.Comment
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Hey Drew,Originally posted by DrewKole
I'm an employee, as most of us are, look at the definition of the word... regardless if you're on salary, hourly, commission, whatever.
Thought you were doing pretty good on your own.. (being announced as a major sponsor's best converting reseller and all) so why now working for someone instead? Gives you a peace of mind or what? When did you join Shaw Internet neways?
Seems to me like this thread was also started cos someone was too darn bored
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Damn, I was annouced as a sponsors best converting reseller and missed it? Care to fill me in? Hehe...Originally posted by seven
Hey Drew,
Thought you were doing pretty good on your own.. (being announced as a major sponsor's best converting reseller and all) so why now working for someone instead? Gives you a peace of mind or what? When did you join Shaw Internet neways?
Seems to me like this thread was also started cos someone was too darn bored
Actually, it's more of a respect thing... I'm really not in this business because I'm fiending for cash or I "want to make it big", I do well enough at my day job... I just have ADD and hate to be bored and sit at home doing nothing... =)
I like Brad, and the gang at Shaw, and Kimmy and I have been friends for a long while... I jumped at the chance to work for em. =)
Hope my life story helps a bit, LOL. =) Good seein ya seven.Comment
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I have two alternativesOriginally posted by DrewKole
people who make have a higher IQ than you created that definition...
1. If people like you get a college degree in USA, it is highly possible that people who are almost as stupid as you also get to create the definitions
2. By defining a word you define it WITH use of other words. Dude, you should check the definitions for words such as "for" and "another" and maybe you will understandComment
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Erm, again you made absolutely no sense...Originally posted by mika
I have two alternatives
1. If people like you get a college degree in USA, it is highly possible that people who are almost as stupid as you also get to create the definitions
2. By defining a word you define it WITH use of other words. Dude, you should check the definitions for words such as "for" and "another" and maybe you will understand
The definition stands, and I am technically right, why don't you stop trying to fight it? You already lost.
Now go sit in a corner, with your superior european education, and your small finnish dick.Comment
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Hey...You Guys...I can vouch for DrewKole...hes a great guy.
Why just the other night he was looking at something about animals....not sure what that word is called...I didnt go to college
But I swear its not true...
Hey DrewKole....where is this months child support???Yes, I am Mrs. Shaw ;)Comment
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Lost what? I don't think we were playing a game here which could be won or lostOriginally posted by DrewKole
The definition stands, and I am technically right, why don't you stop trying to fight it? You already lost.
Now go sit in a corner, with your superior european education, and your small finnish dick
If you wanna play , I will gladly measure my IQ against yours and dick size, too (because you seem to think it's relevant to this discussion). I know for a fact I couldn't lose in both, it could be tie, though, if you have a goddamn monster cockComment
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The check is in the mail shawcutie...
Luckily, my lawyer says Im allowed to only disclose the income the dorks here think I make...
So since I work for foodstamps, and traffic, I only make $500/mo...
So, I mailed you a check for $100, fair?Comment
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You lost, just crawl off with some dignity man... seriously, you're looking like a real chump here.Originally posted by mika
Lost what? I don't think we were playing a game here which could be won or lost
If you wanna play , I will gladly measure my IQ against yours and dick size, too (because you seem to think it's relevant to this discussion). I know for a fact I couldn't lose in both, it could be tie, though, if you have a goddamn monster cock
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We all "work" for the fucking government whether we like it or not...
Right now
I am an anti-Christ
And I am an anarchist
Don't know what I want, but I know how get it
I want to destroy, possibly?
'Cause I want to be anarchy, no dog's body
Anarchy for the U.S.A.
It's coming sometime, it may be
I give a wrong time, stop a traffic light
Your future dream is a shopping spree
'Cause I want to be anarchy, in the city
Of many ways to get what you want
I use the best, I use the rest
I use the enemy
I use anarchy
'Cause I want to be anarchy, it's the only way to be
Is this the M.P.L.A.?
Is this the U.D.A.?
Is this the I.R.A.?
I thought it was the U.S.A., or just another country
And other hahahaha-like tendencies
'Cause I want to be anarchy, 'cause I want to be
Anarchy, you know what I mean?
'Cause I want to be anarchist, again I'm pissed
Destroy!
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Will sombody end this by posting some beastie pics, Richards Simmons, gay anal fisting, or the Cop from Chip's please?Comment
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Originally posted by AaronM
Will sombody end this by posting some beastie pics, Richards Simmons, gay anal fisting, or the Cop from Chip's please?
Last edited by DrewKole; 10-07-2002, 08:35 AM.Comment
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Failed hotlinking attempt?Originally posted by DrewKole
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Strange, it worked for me. =POriginally posted by AaronM
Failed hotlinking attempt?Comment
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Wow... this thread is STILL going?
Did we ever determine if DrewKole is a pedophile? Or have we only determined that he is stubborn - especially when he is wrong?This place is too big.Comment
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DrewKole is, never has, nor never will be a pedofile...Originally posted by TeraBabes
Wow... this thread is STILL going?
Did we ever determine if DrewKole is a pedophile? Or have we only determined that he is stubborn - especially when he is wrong?
I already admitted to being stubborn, but sorry, I'm right in this case, you can fight it all you want but...
Webster's Dictionary ownz j00Comment
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You can keep saying it, but that won't make it true... Kinda like the whole lottery thing. Although, I think you did finally admit to being wrong there and then went off with some other nonsense for a few pages.Originally posted by DrewKole
DrewKole is, never has, nor never will be a pedofile...
I already admitted to being stubborn, but sorry, I'm right in this case, you can fight it all you want but...
Webster's Dictionary ownz j00This place is too big.Comment
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Where is your defense for the other definition? YOu don't have one, rather you're here just trying to prove yourself.Originally posted by TeraBabes
You can keep saying it, but that won't make it true... Kinda like the whole lottery thing. Although, I think you did finally admit to being wrong there and then went off with some other nonsense for a few pages.
The point is, THAT is the definition, I don't give a flying rats ass what you think it means, what everyone else thinks it means, thats the definition, and in a court of law, they'd hold that up. So technically, that is the right answer.
Jesus, you sure do have a hard on for me, fucking penis envy, get over it Tera. You're a fucking dork that is full of himself for some odd reason...
Like I said, go back to feeding off your referral cash, god knows your lame ass needs it. =)
Websters ownz j00, suck it up, stop being so stubborn, and admit that the dictionary just turned you back into a whiny little schoolgirl.
Make a good point, and maybe I'll help you pay your back taxes by signing up to one of your "mouseovered" ref links on your webmasters page.Last edited by DrewKole; 10-07-2002, 08:54 AM.Comment
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DrewKole, don't you ever work?Comment
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No, how bout you?Originally posted by swedguy
DrewKole, don't you ever work?Comment
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I'll be darned if there's actually another DrewKole who's name I saw on Hustler's frontpage last year for having the best conversion ratio. Now, don't freak me out saying there's another one of youOriginally posted by DrewKole
Damn, I was annouced as a sponsors best converting reseller and missed it? Care to fill me in? Hehe...
I'm back from honeymoon.. (wish i could go right back at it again) had a real good time
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I was just wondering that myself.Originally posted by swedguy
DrewKole, don't you ever work?
I was also wondering what happened to the new and improved, nicer Drew. I knew this asshole version would be back
And for the record, Drew, I am FAR from "full of myself" - It just that I am finding myself constantly being annoyed by you.
I thought I already explained how you were misinterpreting all your definitions, but if I need to do it one more time, for you, go ahead and post one. I will then try to explain it to you.... It's not easy though. Teaching you simple concepts is like teaching newborns calculus.This place is too big.Comment
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Depends how you define work.Originally posted by DrewKole
No, how bout you?Comment
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If I defined it here, with what the intelligent people at websters say work is...Originally posted by swedguy
Depends how you define work.
We'd have terababes denying that fact... so its pointless. =P
Lets just say, right now, I'm enjoying some lunch, how about you?Comment
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although this thread isn't really worth reading or commenting on - I just had to make sure there was at least one post from me on it.This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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I'm working
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Mommy didn't show you much attention as a child did she? =(Originally posted by TeraBabes
I was just wondering that myself.
I was also wondering what happened to the new and improved, nicer Drew. I knew this asshole version would be back
And for the record, Drew, I am FAR from "full of myself" - It just that I am finding myself constantly being annoyed by you.
I thought I already explained how you were misinterpreting all your definitions, but if I need to do it one more time, for you, go ahead and post one. I will then try to explain it to you.... It's not easy though. Teaching you simple concepts is like teaching newborns calculus.
I can't be your mother Tera, I just can't... I'm sorry, I wish I could! But I cant... =(
I'm sorry, but I'm not misinterpreting jack shit... Its as clear as day, if you receive financial compensation, websters defines you as an employee. Yet again, websters just raped you.
Get over it... your mother hates you, websters hates you, and you're going to die alone.
Now go back to bragging to your friends, about how you "schooled" Drew, and how your life is so awesome because you're a self employed webmaster who doesn't even have to work, because his rent is paid by his mother, and he just cashs those PHAT referral checks every 2 weeks.Comment
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I will be in approx... 31 minutes.Originally posted by swedguy
I work
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*sigh* How truly sad you are, little man.
Hey, I just had a GREAT IDEA! Damn, why didn't I think of this a long time ago?
I am now officially ignoring DrewKole. Ahhhhh. how sweet it is.
Ignorance is bliss. Don't believe me? Just ask Drew
This place is too big.Comment
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Right now I am picking my nose....thats what I do here at Shaw Internet....since I have no schooling all I do is sit here and wait for Kimmy to throw me a bone
Hey Drew....when you gonna let me out from under your desk....you cant keep me here forever....
Yes, I am Mrs. Shaw ;)Comment
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DrewKole interpretes Webster exactly like those guys interpret the Bible who end up committing a group suicide when they found out Judgment Day didn't come after allComment
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And who says that English class at the american embassy didn't pay off!Originally posted by mika
DrewKole interpretes Webster exactly like those guys interpret the Bible who end up committing a group suicide when they found out Judgment Day didn't come after allComment
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Drew
Take your info from more than one source...
employee n.
(US employe) a person employed for wages or salary, esp. at non-executive level.
The Oxford English Reference Dictionary, ? Oxford University Press 1996
Or this one...
employer and employee
The relationship between the parties to a contract of employment. (It was formerly known as master and servant.) The relationship is governed by the express and implied terms of the contract and by statutory rules that the contract cannot exclude. These relate, for example, to unfair dismissal, redundancy, maternity rights, trade union membership and activity, and health and safety at work. On the principle of vicarious liability, third parties may hold an employer responsible for certain wrongs committed by his employee in the course of his employment.
Dictionary of Law, Oxford University Press ? Market House Books Ltd 1997
Peronsally I would go with the LEGAL definition of this.... or get someone at Websters to acutally learn English/American before they even attempt to write an updated version.Comment
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Good post Dave, though it could still be argued with the 2nd or first definition.
Implicitly, the "terms" that a webmaster agrees too can be considered a contract, and the actions of said webmaster can be held against the employer, as well.
Just look at candidclicks, that is an extreme case, but still proves the point...
An affiliate can still be considered an "employee" under law, by the fact they have to agree to said terms, and agree to promote under certain guidelines.
I'd suppose that if someone wasn't an employee, they could send traffic however they please, and not have clauses for payment or termination...
Thanks for the quote, it would be curious to see how it would turn out... I'm still in favor of the common sense employee mindset, but... I like pointing out the other side too...
Not only to see everyone with their ego's a flutter, but to get some valid input on it.Comment
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That would be a great mistake.Originally posted by DJRCyberAVS
Drew
Take your info from more than one source...
When you do scientific research, or write a decent book, or define a specific word (!), you only have to use one source. This will confirm the coherency of your own research ,ideas or opinions
(Drew may not notice the sarcasm here)Comment
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Hi Drew
Lol, nice slant on the wording...
No...An affiliate can still be considered an "employee" under law, by the fact they have to agree to said terms, and agree to promote under certain guidelines.
You are talking about two different relationships here
One is Contractl Law - (which I actaully studied a few years ago) and the other is Emplyee's Rights.
A contrator can sign a legal Contract with another Company for services and be bound by those terms. This is what an affiliate does. His/her only protection is within the terms of the said contract he/she has agreed to. No master/serverant - Employer/Employee relationship is formed. Such an entity would be responsible arranging their own holiday pay and pensions and have course, have no redundancy protection.
An Employer has far more responsibility. Yes, there is also a contract an employee usually signs but this normally outlines the specific role of employment. The employee is bound by other legal requirements, usually redundancy, holiday pay, and a fixed salary.
You many also note that many sites, including our own make use of this in our terms and conditions -
"NO PARTNERSHIP OR AGENCY CREATED: Both parties agree that this Agreement shall not constitute or be construed to constitute or tending to create an agency, partnership, joint venture, master-servant or employer-employee relationship between Company and You, in any respect, any other provision of this Agreement notwithstanding. "
Have a good un,
DaveComment
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Right, but not all sites have that clause, that no agency is created.
I still think a contract is formed when the terms are agreed to, on both sides of the interaction.
All the definitions posted still give way to interpretation.
Plus, I don't feel right trusting English Law.
Dave
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