Do you consider EXTREMELY OBESE people Victims of their metabolism?

Most people sit all day. Sit in your car, sit at your desk, sit at a table, sit on the couch, sit on the toilet.

In America, society has been geared to accommodate convenience and promote isolation. There are multiple drive through fast food joints on your way home. Groceries delivered to your door. Work from home. Convenience foods are made to be high calorie and addictive.

In America you have to fight society to not get fat. You must rebel for your own health.

Genetics can make you obese, but not extremely obese, that is purely on your fault.
And when it comes to metabolism, some people which have it fast is because they conduct a lot of activities. If you sit 24/7 on computer, then you cant expect to have fast metabolism.

Again,...

food is energy
a "calorie" is a unit of energy
1lb of fat is 3500 calories of energy

your body requires x amount of energy per day to operate (x amount of calories)
your body expects x amount of energy per day (something you have A LOT of influence over)

at the end of the day, you either have a surplus or deficit of calories (available energy)

a surplus is stored as fat

there is no "genetic" issue that can cause you to create fat from nothing.

generally, metabolic rates vary slightly from individual to individual. but its irrelevant. i have on pro fighter i train and his BMR is 3400 calories a day. factor in the energy needs of training + recovery/repair and he needs another 1000 or so a day, depending on what we're doing.

most male adults are at around 2000 calories per day. I am at 1900-2000. generally speaking, f i want to lose fat, i need a consistent 500 calorie a day deficit. If i want to gain muscle, i need a minimum of 500 calorie a day surplus. if i want to gain fat, i need a 500+ a day surplus.

if your BMR is 1750 calories a day and you are eating 2250 calories a day consistently and not active, you'll gain fat. this is not rocket science.

people talk about genetics as an excuse... and know nothing about diet, nutrition, physiology and exercise and how they relate.... much less how much food a person is actually putting in their mouth.

there are no "genetic factors" which alter the laws of thermodynamics.

furthermore, there is literally NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER to anyone, particularly an obese person to furthering the myth that "you just can't help it" and "it's not your fault".

Why the fuck would you ever tell someone "Don't even try to save your own life"???

it's probably the most cruel thing you could do to that person.

you can't be 400 pounds and NOT be eating an obscene amount of calories every single day to support the energy needs of moving that much weight around. do none of you even consider that obvious fact? an extra 250 pounds is like walking around all day long with 5 45lb plates. you honestly don't get how much energy that requires? that you have to eat fucking birthday cake and pizza and drink coke all day long to get that many calories?

you can't be 400 pounds as a male on a normal 2000 calorie a day diet.... as you'd be losing 4-5 pounds a week or more for quite a while.

So much incorrect info in your post , damn.

Particularly funny: "there are no "genetic factors" which alter the laws of thermodynamics." Thanks for the laugh

Are Free Will and personal choice and autonomy OVERRATED?

explain how a persons body energy systems violate the laws of physics, genius.

technically - in the strictest sense, most neuroscientists will argue that you have no free will. that's a long discussion of neuroscience and brain function.

brain processes have no start point and no end point apart from being born and dying and all influence the other in one way or another.

further, almost all of your brains activity happens below conscious awareness - which the conscious you has no access to, so you can never truly know why you did anything, why you like anything, why you raised your arm, when or how that decision was made, much less be sure you chose to do it and know that you chose to do it for the reasons you believe you did... you are only aware of the narrative which rose to conscious awareness which explains why you did something.

you can tell me that you like the color "green". you can never honestly explain why you like green as you have no access to the unconscious mental processes which led you to say "yes".

he's right. There are no genetics that magically make the laws of thermodynamics irrelevant. Fat people are fat because they eat too much. Bottom line.

Discrepancies in people's metabolisms are not naturally as great as everyone would believe. They're altered by how you live your life mostly. If someone has a slow as molasses metabolism, it's most likely because they made it that way and that person can still be fit as long as they are more careful about what and how much they eat. But staying fit requires that your metabolism changes with your waistline. That's why people who lose weight too quickly (the wrong way) snap right back to where they were and then some. Losing weight slowly and adding muscle mass will ensure the weight stays off.

I'm saying this as a fit person who just treated himself to a big KFC dinner and a pint of cookie dough ice cream.

Exactly.

Think of your body as a big meat bag and food as your fuel. You don't use the fuel it builds up in the meatbag.

Lots of long fucking sessions spends a lot of energy and increases your metabolism, as do long edging jackoff sessions

There were far fewer fat kids at school with me in the 50s.

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Speaking only for myself, it was 100% all me and my choices. 2 weeks ago I hit under 300 lbs for the 1st time in probably close to 20 yrs. My goal is to get down to 260'ish.

This is awesome congrats! You'll do better than you expected because you're aware now. Hats off to you cheers

what most people fail to understand is that the stomach can be "trained" to process more food...it can also be trained to process less...it adapts...for example I have a hard time finishing a whole hamburger...I rarely eat bread and the meat/bread combo is heavy on my stomach...I dont think I could eat 2 hamburgers without puking...I have a hard time with meat...fish and veggies with no seasoning other than lemon juice is the bulk of my diet...BBQ ribs are a serious challenge for me...the fat makes me want to puke...

this is a result of my adaptation to a clean diet, it was more out of convenience because I have a fish shop close by and they grill it for you, so when I was busy at work I could just order a big grilled fish...I like some lean meats like chicken and lean beef but I cant consume more than say 200grams/7oz it is simply too much for me...

my advice to anybody is to man up, eat just fish and veggies for 6 months, you will never want to go back to regular food...your stomach and taste WILL adapt...