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Originally Posted by NewNick
Ok Josh, lets just say its all a hoax so that everyone can laugh at America.
Right ?
Thats what you believe.
So lets just say it is true. Climate change is nonsense.
Why do you want to carry on burning old dirty fuels that are expensive and pollute the atmosphere. Why do you want to rely of these antiquated fuels that are finite when you have cheap clean fuel that can never be exhausted. Solar also creates more jobs than coal.
A huge chunk of the US is unused desert. You have absolutely no need of fossil fuels.
It does not make any sense Josh BB.
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1) my dispute with PC climate change is whether mans impact is enough to make earth uninhabitable. not whether all of mans activity is or is not having an impact.
but its impossible to debate a liberal on the topic. you libs paint all deniers as extremists...you already suggested i think its all a hoax. so how do i discuss something intelligently with an opponent that cant think with clarity? cant do nuance?
2) clean technologies often have bad externalities that you liberals ignore. liberals do not talk about the fact that solar panels require minerals called "rare earth" for a reason. ergo, the cost of solar may never get down below oil or coal. & windmills kill a lot of birds. & tidal turbines, if used, will kill a lot of fishes. & teslas actually run on coal, not electricity. no liberals talk about where tesla electricity is made.
what about nuclear? by far its the most efficient supplier of energy by giant order of magnitudes. nuclear subs can live under ice for months on a small lump of energy. But no libs talk nuclear. why?
3) to the extent there is a threat to earth, that threat is in the size of our population, not in the tech we employ. even if we go to all renewable, having trillions of people to feed will consume so many resources, the air will be the least of our problems.
4) i might be more sympathetic to left wing climate concerns if any of their predictions would come true. i wore a greenpeace shirt when i was in high school. eventually i realized the fear they sold was not coming to pass. when they predicted environmental apocalypse when iraq lit up hundred of oil wells, & their predictions didnt happen, i smartened up.
the issue of climate has become so political that there is no reasoned discourse on it anymore. liberals have polluted the entire enterprise with shrill claims of having "science" on their side, & labeling anybody who questions as haters & dumb & deplorable.
