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05-10-2017, 11:08 AM

Just a quick heads up, no Chrome on future Windows platforms. Not good.

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Google Chrome banned from Windows 10 S

Microsoft recently unveiled Windows 10 S and straight away it seems limited to the apps published in the Windows Store. The company has also confirmed that users won?t be able to change the default browser and search engine, meaning they?ll be stuck with Microsoft Edge and Bing on their devices.

At first, the problem does not seem big because advanced browsers are not available in the Windows Store anyway, with the likes of Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox not launching dedicated apps for Windows 10 until now. And yet, it appears that even if Google wants to launch a universal version (UWP) of Google Chrome for Windows, it still wouldn?t be available for users.

According to a report from ZDNet, the information points to special requirements for Windows Store apps that applies exclusively to browsers and to which a ported version of Google Chrome would be unable to comply with.

?Your app must not jeopardize or compromise user security, or the security or functionality of the device, system or related systems. Apps that browse the web must use the appropriate HTML and JavaScript engines provided by the Windows Platform,? the Windows Store guidelines read.

Microsoft is now offering developers a set of tools codenamed Project Islandwood which makes it possible the porting of Win32 software to UWP apps.

This means if Google wanted to bring the desktop version of Chrome in the Windows Store, Project Islandwood was the way to go, but according to these requirements, the search company would have to build the browser from scratch using Microsoft?s own rendering engine and JavaScript interpreters.

Microsoft has stated security reasons for these limitations. Microsoft?s company spokesperson has explained Edge runs in a sandbox environment and thus protects users against potential malware and exploits. The other browsers need to do the same thing as well, so they?d have to be developed from scratch using Microsoft?s own technology.

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05-10-2017, 11:24 AM

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05-10-2017, 11:25 AM

This is not "no chrome on future Windows platforms". This is no Chrome on Windows 10s, which is a stripped down version of Windows. It's meant for Chromebook like computers.

I am a huge fan of Microsoft stuff, I have a surface and love it. The new Surface Laptop they released last week has Widows 10s which doesn't allow you to install programs, only apps, which means no Chrome. However, you can upgrade to a full version of Windows for $90 - or free if you are a student.

For my work cell phone I just buy the cheapest phone out there. I was using an older iPhone which cost me all of $1. After years of hating the iPhone I just got a Lumia 735 - a microsoft phone. (Don't laugh, great phone for $5.) I am used to Samsung, which allows me to download any app I want. However, with the Lumia I am limited to the M$ store which.... sucks. I can't download Gmail, which makes the phone utterly worthless for me.

This is why the Microsoft phone never took off.

I'm sorry, you just cannot put out products out that don't allow you to do what you need to do. I understand M$ wants to push me into using their business products - word and excel, etc - but I have no need for this.

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05-10-2017, 11:33 AM

Good news for Linux developers.

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05-10-2017, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Rochard

This is not "no chrome on future Windows platforms". This is no Chrome on Windows 10s, which is a stripped down version of Windows. It's meant for Chromebook like computers.

I am a huge fan of Microsoft stuff, I have a surface and love it. The new Surface Laptop they released last week has Widows 10s which doesn't allow you to install programs, only apps, which means no Chrome. However, you can upgrade to a full version of Windows for $90 - or free if you are a student.

For my work cell phone I just buy the cheapest phone out there. I was using an older iPhone which cost me all of $1. After years of hating the iPhone I just got a Lumia 735 - a microsoft phone. (Don't laugh, great phone for $5.) I am used to Samsung, which allows me to download any app I want. However, with the Lumia I am limited to the M$ store which.... sucks. I can't download Gmail, which makes the phone utterly worthless for me.

This is why the Microsoft phone never took off.

I'm sorry, you just cannot put out products out that don't allow you to do what you need to do. I understand M$ wants to push me into using their business products - word and excel, etc - but I have no need for this.

Remember how excited you were about the new surface laptop? It's Windows 10 S.

Microsoft is marketing 10 S as a solution for users wanting "consistent performance & security"

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05-10-2017, 01:02 PM

What's next ? Windows getting in the advertising business ?

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05-10-2017, 01:17 PM

Does Chromecast offer the M$ Edge browser?
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05-10-2017, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Brian mike

What's next ? Windows getting in the advertising business ?

Who owned Bing ?

They do, they probably have a plan..
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05-10-2017, 01:26 PM

I have 8.1, I knew better to upgrade to 10..

I'm sure a hacker will built a workaround or Google is already working on something..

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05-10-2017, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

but I have no need for this.
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05-10-2017, 02:02 PM

We´re on 10 & mainly use chrome, so thank you for this information, we won´t be updating to 10s...

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05-10-2017, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by wehateporn

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05-10-2017, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by RyuLion

I have 8.1, I knew better to upgrade to 10..

I'm sure a hacker will built a workaround or Google is already working on something..

Yeah Windows 10 is a spyware piece of shit.

The way all technology wants to spy on everything you do (phones, computers, automobile tech, etc) you have to wonder what's in store for the next generation. I can see all tech having built in spyware by default, that can't be disabled

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05-10-2017, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by GspotProductions

We´re on 10 & mainly use chrome, so thank you for this information, we won´t be updating to 10s...

It's not an update you dolt.

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05-10-2017, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Bladewire

you have to wonder what's in store for the next generation.

They'll overthrow it.

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05-10-2017, 04:42 PM

I am convinced that MS is throttling the performance of Edge and MSIE on at least some computers (to make people buy a new one). I can have 100+ tabs open in Chrome and my computer works fine. But Edge and MSIE can only handle a few tabs.
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05-10-2017, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Bladewire

Yeah Windows 10 is a spyware piece of shit.

The way all technology wants to spy on everything you do (phones, computers, automobile tech, etc) you have to wonder what's in store for the next generation. I can see all tech having built in spyware by default, that can't be disabled

Who gives a shit really.

This new generation is growing up without the expectation of privacy.

Privacy is dead - Get used to it although it really doesn't matter if you do or not because you will be old and will be gone soon and the world just keeps on spinning...without your faggot ass!

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05-10-2017, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

This is not "no chrome on future Windows platforms". This is no Chrome on Windows 10s, which is a stripped down version of Windows. It's meant for Chromebook like computers.

I am a huge fan of Microsoft stuff, I have a surface and love it. The new Surface Laptop they released last week has Widows 10s which doesn't allow you to install programs, only apps, which means no Chrome. However, you can upgrade to a full version of Windows for $90 - or free if you are a student.

For my work cell phone I just buy the cheapest phone out there. I was using an older iPhone which cost me all of $1. After years of hating the iPhone I just got a Lumia 735 - a microsoft phone. (Don't laugh, great phone for $5.) I am used to Samsung, which allows me to download any app I want. However, with the Lumia I am limited to the M$ store which.... sucks. I can't download Gmail, which makes the phone utterly worthless for me.

This is why the Microsoft phone never took off.

I'm sorry, you just cannot put out products out that don't allow you to do what you need to do. I understand M$ wants to push me into using their business products - word and excel, etc - but I have no need for this.

People can upgrade to Windows 10 Pro for free for the rest of the year - then it is $49.

The reason why Windows Phones never had any Google apps was not because of Microsoft, but because Google didn't want to put their apps in the Microsoft Store. They didn't want Windows Phone to succeed.

I have a Lumia 950 and it can import mails from Gmails just fine. I no longer use this though.
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05-10-2017, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Bladewire

Remember how excited you were about the new surface laptop? It's Windows 10 S.

Microsoft is marketing 10 S as a solution for users wanting "consistent performance & security"

I know this... You can upgrade to the full version or get it for free if you are a student.

It's disappointing, but they are trying to create their version of a Chromebook.

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05-10-2017, 07:40 PM

I don't care about the browser part. Chrome is a battery hog anyway so a bad choice for laptop users who with this OS will mainly use the browser.

As for the search engine it sucks a bit because Bing is just not great outside US. However, I have set homepage to google.com plus a bookmark in the bar, so no annoyance for me.

Chromebooks do not allow Edge browser, so I don't see the reason for witch hunt. Besides of course it is MS.

This OS is mainly for schools, and I don't see why they will care about not having other browser choices. Having access to full Office and probably more useful apps if this take off, is more important as I see it.
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05-10-2017, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by MPGdevil

People can upgrade to Windows 10 Pro for free for the rest of the year - then it is $49.

The reason why Windows Phones never had any Google apps was not because of Microsoft, but because Google didn't want to put their apps in the Microsoft Store. They didn't want Windows Phone to succeed.

I have a Lumia 950 and it can import mails from Gmails just fine. I no longer use this though.

I haven't played with it too much, but I cannot seem to download the Gmail app. I don't want to download a third party app just so I can check my email.

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05-10-2017, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by MiamiBoyz

Who gives a shit really.

This new generation is growing up without the expectation of privacy.

Privacy is dead - Get used to it although it really doesn't matter if you do or not because you will be old and will be gone soon and the world just keeps on spinning...without your faggot ass!

Future generations will have no idea what free thought is like or freedom of movement because that will be the new normal.

Yea no shit.
80% use Android.
Chrome browser is most popular browser.
YouTube, Gmail, Google Maps, etc..

Funny it's the most vocal about privacy, who are also the same to use above services intensively.

Then when confronted it is excuses like: "But Google services are free and gives me great value".
So suddenly it is not a question about privacy, but more the fact that because they pay for Windows they suddenly feel entitled to 100% privacy and zero data collecting.
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05-10-2017, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

I haven't played with it too much, but I cannot seem to download the Gmail app. I don't want to download a third party app just so I can check my email.

There is no Gmail app because Google didn't want it in the store. There is the default Outlook Mail app from Microsoft though. I am pretty sure I used that for both my Outlook mail and Gmail in the past. All you have to do is add your Google account in account settings. There are also some great YouTube 3rd party apps btw. Myself I use Tubecast.
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