Strange... No mention here about the 100 billion Brexit bill presented to UK by Europe

correct that have been all the states in US too before 1788 - they just made a joint venture what started 1776 and this joint venture is still NOT ONE COUNTRY til today.

in ONE country it would not be possible to have death penalty in one part and not in the other. if you look at the enourmous list of laws in US what are only existing in ONE state you can not tell me the america is ONE country yet.

up to a point. the individual countries in the EU have still MANY invidiual relulatories what are in some case senseful and in other cases not.
but there are many rules in the EU contract what EVERY country have to follow - no matter if that is in their souvereign jurisdication different. that was one of the main
reasons for the existance of the EU do act TOGETHER and not AGIANST eah other.

so that measn that the US gouverment have not done it´s job because after so many hundrests of years states have so many different laws that you can not call it country.

that not 100% true - the passport of EVERY single EU country says FIRST:

EUROPEAN UNION and THAN the country.

remember that the EU is in fact not even 20 years old and still have to find a way how everybody´s interests are fitting together. that is a hard and long way and not possible to change in one generation.
look in the south of united states - til TODAY they wish slavery back and respect their own flag over the US-flag.

living together or doing things together can NEVER work if all sites want to have it their way. it is a process of conclusions. some of them will hurt and some of them will help.

we all know that EU is not perfect and will never be - but it is the only chance to survive in a global world and give people the prosperity they hope for.
and NO it will not be prosperity for all of them unfortuantely - but the social net will take care the weak and unhealthy and they will spend back what we give to them and this is the circle of money and base of prosperity.

unfortuantely still many europeans live in the past. they beleive that "before was all better" even when it is not true.
especially the younger people who never have seen bad times don´t know the difference between than and now. they do not know that it was just a fraction of people who could afford to go on holidays every year - the majority could not.
they can not remember a time when someone was treaten like a king when he had a phone or a TV at home. and they can not imagine how long someone had to work for buying it.

and these are only examples what I can remember from my own life. if you go back further you will end up at a time when people were thrown out from the city when they were sick and they let them die there.

you come back to a time when someone who had just more power as another could easily kill someone and don´t get sued for it. you get back to a time were just the strongest and not the smartest one made the rules.

EU is nothing for egoists - it is an idea for teamplayers. and this is what we need to survive on this planet.

i give you just ONE littel example what i was reading just a few minutes ago:

the EU is thinking to sue poland because they are planning to destory the last natural parks there. poland have signed the contract for natural resorts in the EU and this place what they want to make industrial is one of them.

i think it is GREAT that we have this instrumenst to do something when a country is doing such a crime.

we can´t stop brazil from killing their forests (and taking the air to breathe from EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD) - only a strong union can stop that because this union is big and important enough.

the problems our world is facing today are VERY different and MUCH bigger as the problems we had in the past. not one country can resolve this problems alone. if that would be the right way for evolution we still would live alone with wife and kids in a cave. the success of human being is the way we learned to live together and accept compromises.

FUCK YOU - you do not have the smallest clue of the EU - so stop to promote your fake news.

what would be a union if there are no rules?

and ALL members of the EU have SIGNED to accept this rules - so also the netherland did it.
what shall they do? send every single dutch to brussel to make an own agreement you dumb ?

why do you not complain on your countries laws ?
you also did not make them OTHERS made them for you, you silly.

i tell you what is your problem - you are young but stupid and lazy - you are not able to change your mind so you want is the circumstances follow your intellect.

go back and live in a cave that´s where people like you should be.

Eu is falling apart anyway, just ignoring them would be the smartest move. They are incapable, impotent and stupid anyway.

Why hate America -- Europe it totally fucked up too

We already had our Civil War -- good luck with yours.

I have never seen a passport issued by the EU -- there are none.

The EU is NOT one inadvisable nation. Stop fooling yourself. Every nations' populace in the EU has a Plan B exit strategy.

In fact if you study US history US states acted very similarly in the 20 years before the American Civil War. Roughly 2% of the population, an estimated 620,000 men, lost their lives in the American Civil War -- over states rights and succession from the union.

Good fucking luck ... We have assholes wearing red hats still trying to fight the states-rights issue and against federalism 150 years later ...

Without the EU Europe is just a bunch of nations for the world to deal with and half of them amount to very little. Can you imagine the US state of Alabama negotiating a trade deal with Russia, China or India? Why bother?

When the U.K. leaves for good the EU still need them and vice versa. EU is a corrupt organization using bully mentality to set the rules. Congratulations to all liberals and left for believing everything that is said and done and lobbying for more power to the EU.

EU have moved too fast with leadership at the top promoting and focusing on the wrong things. As a first there's a handful of membership countries that shouldn't be allowed entry at all yet until they fixed their own standard. Organized crime have been spreading to richer countries and with no borders they can move around from country to country stealing and looting cause that's exactly what they do. The new modern viking running mayhem in Europe and no leader have to take any kind of responsibility.

Animals, machines, cars, boat engines are stolen and shipped back to the countries that should never have been allowed entrance into the EU.

FUCK EU...

I'm amazed by the people who still defend this shit organization.

first of all you fucking uneducated dumb - the EU is not an idea of the germans - it is an idea of france and from the moment on EEG was founded our life became better.

that germany a france have a eight in the EU is just because these are the biggest country - in every democracy it is the MAJORITY who decides.
do you really think that the EU need holland? or do you even a bit understand that holland would be a 3rd world country without EEG and EU.
tell me WHAT is it what the world need from holland and can´t get somewhere else?
without the EU your tradingpartners would not even find you on the map.
without the EU you could not even find a fish in the nothsea anymore because you dumbheads would take them out without thinking in tomorrow or somebody else with more and bigger ships would do it if there would not be rules to prevent it at least in parts.

god thanks that most of the citizens of the netherlands are not that supid as you are and know from what they can afford a suitable life.

the germans learned from their history - the ones who want to repeat it are dumbheads like you.
i think you should stop a bit to go to coffeeshops - it is not good fro your brain.

Clearly a HARDCORE EU supporter Brainwashed by the establishment

You sound very naive and put too much faith in the EU. The fact that the Netherlands would be a 3rd world country according to you without the EU is just laughable. You're the one sounding uneducated Mr "U.K. would not have any bananas without the EU"

You would be a good right hand for Angela Merkel the supreme traitor

ok help me to get this job and i try to help you to get the job as a toilette cleaner (even when you are underqualified for it).

Strange that, you are the one on record saying that you condone violence against people voicing a criticism of your beloved fourth reich.

strange that you idots sound all the same.
are you sharing this one brain cell or what is your secret to be that far away from homo sapiens ?

Bla bla bla, Holland did fine with the EEG, without the Euro and the EU and influence of Brussel. No need to make a fourth reich like what is happening now in Brussels.

You have a mouth full of majority, till you lose the majority like in the UK, than you start crying that the world has come to an end and everybody is dumb.

What do we need from Germany that we can't get somewhere else?

Ps, now Europe is fishing in African waters, so the people doesn't have food there. Wow, what is the EU good for protecting their own fish (and stealing others). And that because it is going so well in Europe that now everyone can affort fish. Hey, you see. How better it goes in a country, the worse for the environement.

If a majority decides to fuck up Europe and Brittain, that doesn't mean i will listen to that and support it. just like when Europe decides to start a war with Russia, i won't go even if they sent me. The majority has spoken out many times in Holland, and the government didn't listen. That means people have to vote more extreme to get to their goals. And that is what is happening. And it takes only time before a majority of people will vote for politcians that want less influence from the EU.

Why did you get the name Thommy, had your mother special memories of the tommies?

Paul is elite...

Yeah, that the spirit. No sign of any facts of figures but abuse. you, bootboy are a real left-winger aren't you. Let me guess, the next step is to call everyone racist?
Have luck in your shrinking empire.

The voting share between poor and rich EU nations favours the poor. So as a democracy is run by the countries with the most votes, they outweigh France and Germany. When the UK leaves the balance will tip further towards the poor. As will the bills to run the EU will fall on the shoulders of Germany. Yes the EU needs Holland.

France is sinking further into debt. DebtClocks.eu - Debt clocks of the EU Member States - comparison

Look at the debt of the countries that have supplied the West with a low-skilled, low-paid workforce. Then compare that debt with the countries that took the low-skilled, low-paid workforce. Great for the capitalist and big business. Sucks for the people of the richer countries earning less than $60,000 per year.

The EU has allowed overfishing.

With the EU there is no Holland at the bargaining table. Along with every other country, the bargaining is for the EU and as I pointed out that's not run for the benefit of individual countries. How many times has the EU failed to get a trade deal and how long does it take to get one?

You bring up a good point about coffee shops. Go visit one in the UK and see who is behind the counter serving up the coffee and existing on minimum wage.

the guys with no facts are you.
you are the putin and trump brainwashed with no clue at all.
guys like you or the dutch kid slept on a historny book and read some fake news and you think you understand the world but in fact guys like you are the tools what are used by the ones what have good reasons to destroy a working EU or a working country.

see how successful they are ! they spiltted america already in 2 parts and now they want to split the EU in many small parts with the help of bonsaibrains like you and the 2 dutch microbrains.

you call me brainwashed and left but i am nothing of that - i do not even have a political direction. I just can count one and one together and I have konowledge of economies what you guys do not.

you are not even able to name the problems you see - all i hear are problems from other parts of the society what you obviously not belong to.
you are just full of hate because you do not see what you have you only see what you not have. you do NOT think for the society - not one of you brainwashed freaks.

so call it by name and say: i want all i do not care what happens to others - that would show your REAL face and would explain that you monkeys do not understand the basics of a democratic society.