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Still has to pass the Senate
This is good politically, a huge win, for the Democrats in 2018 elections & possibly 2020.
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They SAY it won't pass the Senate.. but they said Trump wouldn't win;-(
Please Lord in heaven, may all these fucking Trumpster retards in the moron States kids are born with brain cancer.... and when they have to choose between their kids lives and eating and having a home
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its no "repeal"
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Sad day for all Americans.Comment
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This was not a healthcare bill but a tax cut for billionaires.
Welcome to the third world Merica.C H R I S
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Don't worry!! They are cutting social programs for the middle class and poor in order to pay for that even though all those programs amount to a drop in the bucket when it comes to the total budget. It makes it look they they are financially conservative to their voters while putting money into the pockets of the rich“If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.”
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I better start saving my money. I have a pre-existing condition and it looks like things might be about to get very expensive for me.Comment
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Please reach out to a Trump support on GFY and thank him personally for giving you the freedom to choose between your house, or your Dad's hernia operation.Comment
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Most of the Trump supporters here are Russian, Eastern European, and a guy with a bunch of fake Redhat nics.
Robbie is the only real human American on GFY that I can think of, that supports Trump. I know there was a thread about this somewhere, I think there's a couple more American Trump people here maybe.
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Since I have a preexisting condition should I queue for the death panel line now?
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When are people going to get it through their heads that republicans want the sick and poor to just die?
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Really are you dumb? Trumps biggest pledge and promise that got him elected was a complete repeal and replacement of the ACA, he WINS big time by following thru on another campaign promise that got him elected. Nobody that used the shitty ACA voted for him anyway. You need to stop reading huffpost and read a real legitimate news source, and no NO cnn or foxnews either.Comment
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Millions that use the ACA voted for him. Trump stood on the stage every night during the election and said the replacement would give people better insurance at a fraction of the price. That is not going to happen if this bill is actually signed into law.
This is a graphic showing the number of people who got free (or very cheap) Medicaid under the ACA. Do you not think a decent number of those people, especially in the red states, voted for Trump. A poll showed that when asked many people think Obamacare and the ACA are two different things.
I think this is all a ploy. They pushed it through the House knowing it won't pass the Senate. When it dies in the Senate Paul Ryan and Trump can say, "We tried to repeal and replace Obamacare, but zero democrats would support us so it is their fault."Comment
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You are an anonymous ghost nic fuck off.
You know what always gives you away? The same uninformed shit.
You're uninformed ignorant agenda shows through, and presents exactly the same, in all your anonymous fake ghost nics.
You're also a lazy hack and don't build up identities to your anonymous fake ghost nics.
You're also a creep fuck off.
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ObamaCare was already dead.
Heard on CBS News on the radio that the last insurance companies were all pulling out by 2018 no matter what happened.
Also in the state of Iowa right now....94 of 96 county's have NO insurance provider left for ObamaCare.
People with brains have been saying since 2009 that the math never added up for this.
And I have said since 2009 that what REALLY needs to be done is for the govt. to STOP allowing Big Corporations that run hospitals to price gouge us in the United States on EVERY procedure they do.
Making it impossible to pay out of pocket for routine minor surgeries (appendix and stuff like that).
And then stop Big Pharma from price gouging us in the U.S. and allowing them to charge us 5 to 6 times MORE for prescription drugs than any other country in the world.
The U.S. Govt. even sets up the border patrol to SEARCH you if you come back from Tijuana with your prescription filled there.
It's a total ripoff.
We shouldn't NEED health insurance except for CATASTROPHIC health insurance (heart attack, horrible car accident, or other huge medical issue).
If the government weren't involved at all...we would be better off. Once they got involved and started taking billions of dollars in lobbyists money from Big Pharma, Big Hospital Corporations, and Big Insurance...THAT is when prices began to skyrocket.
People just didn't bother with "health insurance" in my lifetime during the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's up until the late 1990's because you didn't NEED it. You paid for it out of pocket.
ObamaCare was nothing more than the finishing touches on the scam. And this "replace" is more of the same.
They should have simply REPEALED it.
Get the governments endless supply of corrupt money out of the system and you would watch prices fall into line quickly.-Robbie
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They do lose millions of votes in the South if they just repealed.
Do you remember insurance before Obama care? Do you remember the protests? The on air suicides? People going into hospitals & shooting the doctors? The congressional investigations into the health insurance agency? Seems like you forgot that health insurance was a scam fucking people over left and right ending in a lot of death and turmoil.
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Thanks Trump -- insurance corporations of america
The health insurers lost their profits in Obamacare -- can't have that.Comment
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The Australian system is quiet good and should be looked at.
Most working Australians have private health insurance, that I know anyways. That insurance allows you a private room with a cable tv, choice of doctors, menu for meals and access to faster wait times, more hospitals. etc
For myself and wife cost of that is about $50 a week and really your silly not to have it.
Government supplied medicare is factored in to your taxes, its 1-2% of your earnings depending on income, Same doctors and hospital as above just without all the trimmings. Main thing is if you are poor, you can get the care that you need and its free.
Insurance costs here are skyrocketing as well, don't go thinking that's a USA only thing its world wide, but our costs are still way below yours and that's for many reasons, generic drug options is one, your choice may I add, and that the government negotiates with the large Pharms reducing costs across the board.
You do read that there are Australians that go to the USA for healthcare, that's usually a population based thing, where you have an unusual based aliment that's hardly recognised here, but in the USA because of population, there's and expert somewhere on it. or some new wonder drug that's been approved in the USA but not here yet. The numbers are VERY low, in the hundreds, where as tens of thousands flock to Asia for cheap boob jobs.
The major issue here in Australia is dental is not covered so you can add two scale and cleans to my medical bill @130 a pop
So a base 1% of income gets free care for all, and you top that up with insurance to get the level of care you want.Comment
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Just curious. Where is the outrage by the right that this bill was voted on and passed before it was even read?Comment
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You're a demented person man, I've been here before you, check my date? I don't post much because I work instead of running around to get my free handouts like you. I'll ask Eric or the admins to go ahead and confirm that I indeed am one account, the same person for the last 15 years here. The same uninformed shit you talk about is because I'm one person you fucking idiot. You're contradicting yourself with every word LOL. I don't care how people feel about my politics. Only you seem to have a problem with everyone.Comment
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I lived in Australia 5 years and they're more advanced than America ecologically and with healthcare. Great place to live a d good people
It sucks that Republicans here are constantly trying to take away rights & benefits that others in the western world have had for decades. Chilling
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I agree with everything Robbie said here, I'm sure Bladewire will come running calling me a fake nic or some nonsense LOL. The ACA was dead, I'm in CA and we have 3 providers left and Kaiser and Sutter as well as Dignity health won't take 2 of them. So really you get 1 choice, that's it. Plus your doctor might not even take that now. Bladewire I'm sure is one of the 33% of Californian's on Medi-cal and one of 33% of ALL welfare recipients in the US in california.Comment
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No I don't know I don't know if this bill is shit or not either I never said it was a good thing. Bladewire is a very unbalanced person LOL, I don't know why he gets so upset with the ACA repeal when I'm sure he'll just use medi-cal to get his meds. I just mean the ACA was just about impossible to use here in CA, and this year it was pretty much done. Not even Platinum plans are taken by Sutter Health or Kaiser, you get a kaiser plan (which is VERY expensive) and sucks or you get nothing.
I don't know if this new AHCA thing is crap or not, I haven't read it, I just know the original ACA was crap and needed to go. I don't know if a replacement is even needed? I had insurance from BC/BS for 12 years fine before the ACA came along and then my prices skyrocketed and I couldn't even use it.Comment
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As long as Americans vote for people who are in the pockets of billionaires, billionaires will get what they pay for. And the rest will get fucked.
Republicans and Democrats are owned by the same people, the 1%. The problem is the 99% don't see the problem. Obamacare or Trumpcare are like the captain of the Titanic deciding to hit the iceberg on the left or the right. Both are bad.Comment
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So the top 1% do get a tax break along with all the rest? Why is that a bad thing, why do they get punished for being smart and successful, going to college, starting a business?
Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes
There CNBC a very non right wing station, the top 1% of earners pay HALF the entire Federal taxes collected. Just because they worked hard and pay half of everything we use that comes from federal funding we should punish them? The just cause they could afford it argument is bullshit, that's socialism and you know it. It makes no incentive to innovate and build something if you get nearly half of it taken away. How about this, the dems introduced a bill that would now make what you spend on ADVERTISING not deductible anymore. So you affiliate and media buyers and program owners. If they have their way you can't deduct your ad spend, even if you barely profit or break even. Talk about bullshit, oh and now CA wants to tax the mileage spaceX and other rockets travel from california as they tax trains and boats etc....... WTF?Comment
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1% to 2% of gross, net or pretax income? Sounds like very little to work in the USA.
In 2015, U.S. health care spending increased 5.8 percent to reach $3.2 trillion, or $9,990 per person.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N
median per person (real) income is about $30K
Do the math
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Yep people didnt have health insurance , when they got sick they just went home and died. Why do you think life expectancy keeps going up. Better Health Care which happened because of health insurance.
Health Care is a business and drug companies answer to share holders. So no one is going to start magically making health care cheap in the US.
What we have to decide in America once and for all , is healthcare a right or a privilege?
But no politician has the balls to say the truth.
Also another big problem is people with health care policies really having no fucking idea what they cover and they dont. You say under obama my health care went up 5 times but what you didnt know was. Before that,your policy had a max so god forbid you got cancer, you would get pitched once you hit that number or they pitched you because the type of cancer you had wasnt covered in your policy.But most people dont know this they just saw the cost going up not that now they actually have coverage.
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Irony is when Jason Chaffetz has an operation on his foot for a pre existing condition and then voted to raise the cost of healthcare to everyone who has... a pre existing condition.
Congress should be covered by the same exact healthcare system the rest of us have to use. That should be a LAW.Herschel Savage
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What? LOL!
I didn't just go home and die! Neither did any of my family.
Going to the doctor was not expensive. I think you missed the whole point of my post. You should NOT NEED insurance just to go to the freakin' doctor.
You should ONLY need Catastrophic Insurance (in case you have a heart attack, a stroke, catch cancer, car wreck, etc.)
I think you may be in "overdramatic" mode today.
-Robbie
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Wrong Tony. My BCBS insurance plan was/is TOP of the line.
Nothing on my policy has changed EXCEPT that now I personally am covered in case I get pregnant (LOL). And oh yeah...the policy went up from around $500 a month of 4 of us to over $1,500 a month for three of us now.-Robbie
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I would take it further and say Congress should pay for it's own damn insurance. Why is the taxpayer forced to pay for them? They already get paid a salary. Let them pay their own.
And we should stop using the term "insurance" and "pre-existing conditions"
If you have a pre-existing condition...you are NOT getting "insured" against the possibility of something happening.
It already happened.
Nope, you are getting welfare. Plain and simple.
And there is a place for welfare in our society. I'm not against that.
But to pretend it's "insurance" is just stupid.
If you have cancer...you are not being "insured" against catching cancer. You are getting welfare.-Robbie
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You don't need insurance to go the doctor. My kid broke her arm while I didn't have insurance and I was rather surprised at how little everything cost. It was $99 for an xray, $75 for an urgent care visit where they gave us a full cast, some physical therapy that cost $45 a session, then a final follow up at $75.What? LOL!
I didn't just go home and die! Neither did any of my family.
Going to the doctor was not expensive. I think you missed the whole point of my post. You should NOT NEED insurance just to go to the freakin' doctor.
You should ONLY need Catastrophic Insurance (in case you have a heart attack, a stroke, catch cancer, car wreck, etc.)
I think you may be in "overdramatic" mode today.
You need insurance for big ticket items. My mother passed out and cracked her head open and was taken to the ER. It cost $18k, most of which was covered by insurance.
The problem is most people don't carry this kind of insurance until after the fact.Herschel Savage
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