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  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609
    #51
    Originally posted by sperbonzo
    They know that no country can be trusted to look after them, THEY have to look after themselves.
    hmm that must be why the entire country is funded by american donations.

    Originally posted by sperbonzo
    They also know that no matter what land they give up to the Arabs, the arabs will not be satisfied until every Jew in Israel is dead.
    i just spoke to an arab , he said you are talking shit, he doesnt feel that way.

    Originally posted by sperbonzo
    Why should Israel care if what they do is unpopular around the world?

    gee maybe because the usa will stop giving them the weapons and money they use to be a country. Think about what israel would be without everything americans have donated them ?
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      • _Richard_
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2006
        • 30989
        #52
        Originally posted by Fletch XXX
        It is hard to understand how even schools and UN supply vehicles that are in COORDINATION with Israel's military, and providing their coordinates to not be bombed are being bombed, including UN supply trucks, and UN schools.

        The "Hamas was coming right for us" excuse is getting so old, considering this is United nation vehicles and buildings being bombed and UN workers are being killed.



        http://voanews.com/english/2009-01-08-voa39.cfm



        http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...PRq3gD95J82Q00

        as reported coordinates ARE being provided to Israels military, but the bombs keep coming...

        amazing. and sad.
        starting to feel like genocide.. take out all support.. starve em.. etc

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          • WarChild
            Let slip the dogs of war.
            • Jan 2003
            • 17263
            #53
            Good, more animals dead. Go Jews go!
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              • buzzy
                Confirmed User
                • May 2007
                • 2606
                #54
                Originally posted by WarChild
                Good, more animals dead. Go Jews go!
                We know you're racist and think all brown people are animals, no need to remind us.

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                  • WarChild
                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 17263
                    #55
                    Originally posted by buzzy
                    We know you're racist and think all brown people are animals, no need to remind us.
                    There's plenty of useful brown people. These are not some of them and it has nothing to do with the color of their skin. Time to take out the trash in the middle east once and for all.
                    .

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                      • buzzy
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2007
                        • 2606
                        #56
                        Originally posted by WarChild
                        There's plenty of useful brown people. These are not some of them and it has nothing to do with the color of their skin. Time to take out the trash in the middle east once and for all.
                        What "does it have to do" with then? They were civillians, who are equal in status to you and everyone else, why did they deserve to be killed?

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                          • WarChild
                            Let slip the dogs of war.
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 17263
                            #57
                            Originally posted by buzzy
                            What "does it have to do" with then? They were civillians, who are equal in status to you and everyone else, why did they deserve to be killed?
                            Equal in status? You must have me confused with some liberal cry baby.

                            Religion is a disease. It poisons our world and retards progress. Islam is the most primitivie and fastest growing of these cancerous mind cults. Make no mistake, if I could flip a switch and wipe out the religious devout of _ALL_ faiths, I'd be down for that in a heart beat. Since that's not feasible, we're left with the lesser of two evils.

                            If I had to choose, and evidently that's the way it is, then I'll take Jews in the middle east of Islamics any single day of the week.
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                              • buzzy
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2007
                                • 2606
                                #58
                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                Equal in status? You must have me confused with some liberal cry baby.

                                Religion is a disease. It poisons our world and retards progress. Islam is the most primitivie and fastest growing of these cancerous mind cults. Make no mistake, if I could flip a switch and wipe out the religious devout of _ALL_ faiths, I'd be down for that in a heart beat. Since that's not feasible, we're left with the lesser of two evils.

                                If I had to choose, and evidently that's the way it is, then I'll take Jews in the middle east of Islamics any single day of the week.
                                So you're up for killing Muslims, even if they are innocent civillians.....you sound a lot like.....

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                                  • WarChild
                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 17263
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by buzzy
                                    So you're up for killing Muslims, even if they are innocent civillians.....you sound a lot like.....

                                    If there's going to be very real killing over any imaginary gods, then I'm going going to support the least arcaic side. More advancements have come out of one tiny Jewish state in the last 25 years than pretty much every Muslim state combined. No brainer as far as I'm concerned. Go Jews, go!
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                                      • Isradude
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                                        • Mar 2008
                                        • 1842
                                        #60
                                        i just wonder what would some of the people here expect their government to to if their houses were bombed for 8 years .......

                                        it's funny how you guys are such great humanitarians when it comes to Palestinians ... but i didn't hear a thing while Israelis were killed.

                                        war sucks !!!! i don't support war, and neither most Israelis !! however, when this is the only option that's what we will do !

                                        Peace everyone !
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                                          • martinsc
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jun 2005
                                            • 27043
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by Isradude
                                            i just wonder what would some of the people here expect their government to to if their houses were bombed for 8 years .......

                                            it's funny how you guys are such great humanitarians when it comes to Palestinians ... but i didn't hear a thing while Israelis were killed.

                                            war sucks !!!! i don't support war, and neither most Israelis !! however, when this is the only option that's what we will do !

                                            Peace everyone !
                                            well said.
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                                              • buzzy
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                                                • May 2007
                                                • 2606
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by Isradude
                                                i just wonder what would some of the people here expect their government to to if their houses were bombed for 8 years .......

                                                it's funny how you guys are such great humanitarians when it comes to Palestinians ... but i didn't hear a thing while Israelis were killed.

                                                war sucks !!!! i don't support war, and neither most Israelis !! however, when this is the only option that's what we will do !

                                                Peace everyone !
                                                Peace Everyone!

                                                Yet you occupy and steal land that is not yours, build settlements illegally and then wonder why you get rocketed?

                                                You Israeli's really make me laugh.

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                                                  • WarChild
                                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 17263
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by buzzy
                                                    Peace Everyone!

                                                    Yet you occupy and steal land that is not yours, build settlements illegally and then wonder why you get rocketed?

                                                    You Israeli's really make me laugh.
                                                    "Vae vicitis" - Woe to the conquered
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                                                      • Donfoolio
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                                                        • Mar 2006
                                                        • 963
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by buzzy
                                                        We know you're racist and think all brown people are animals, no need to remind us.
                                                        buzzy you're a good guy. Just put that cock smoker on ignore like I did. Don't feed into ignorance, you can't make them see anything they don't want to see.
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                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
                                                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                            • 28609
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Isradude
                                                            i just wonder what would some of the people here expect their government to to if their houses were bombed for 8 years .......
                                                            probably the first thing to do would be to change strategies, obviously the strategy israel is using isnt working.

                                                            Originally posted by Isradude

                                                            it's funny how you guys are such great humanitarians when it comes to Palestinians ... but i didn't hear a thing while Israelis were killed.
                                                            israel killed more children in 1 day than hamas has killed the entire year. So i will shed 1 tear for israel and 1000 tears for palestine.
                                                            Originally posted by Isradude
                                                            war sucks !!!! i don't support war and neither most Israelis !!
                                                            actually the polls show the vast majority of israelis support the war. Saying you dont support war ( except this one ) is like saying i dont support hookers, cept this one i happen to be fucking.

                                                            Many many people dont support wars period, not " i dont support wars but he hit me first so war is ok , and only if i start it and am winning, if i didnt start it or am not winning we will call it terrorists, and if we kill hundreds of kids, we will call it defense"
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                                                              • David!
                                                                By the wrath of Agamemnon
                                                                • Apr 2004
                                                                • 6501
                                                                #66
                                                                Fuck the palestinians.
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                                                                  • Cherry7
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                                                                    • Aug 2005
                                                                    • 3564
                                                                    #67
                                                                    300 children murdered.....

                                                                    Israel has now become the Germany of the Middle East....

                                                                    Cannot be defeated, backed by the USA and UK, supplied with the most modern weapons including nuclear.

                                                                    The Arab people watch with horror on their TV as the Arab prisoners of Gaza and West Bank are shot and wounded.

                                                                    The Arab client states of the west Egypt Jordan and the other "west friendly" states suppress the anger of their populations.

                                                                    The USA abstains against ceasefire and back the aggression.


                                                                    What will the millions of today's powerless Arabs do tomorrow? Will this give peace to Israel? Did any of its other wars?



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                                                                      • mizmiz
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                        • 1168
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by Donfoolio
                                                                        You still did not state where you would rather vacation at..

                                                                        But to be on the real I just want people like you to understand that unless you are against tyranny you are the enemy. Being jew or whatever and being biased when the things that go on in the world around us, as liberty fades in favor of police state, all things listed in the protocols of zion, the fact no white jew in his right mind would admit to once being black or brown, how they condemn arabs when they are one in the same. All these things gots to give, I know I am RIGHT and so do you, the problem is you want to dilute the facts into opinion and politics. This way of subterfuge has controlled popular opinion for hundreds of years through it's trick knowledge, I won't be swayed by it.
                                                                        Ok so the first man was black...too bad my dick aint 20 inches...

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                                                                          • martinsc
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jun 2005
                                                                            • 27043
                                                                            #69
                                                                            http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/
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                                                                              • onwebcam
                                                                                Fake Nick 1.0
                                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                                • 27689
                                                                                #70
                                                                                How Israel brought Gaza to the brink of humanitarian catastrophe

                                                                                Oxford professor of international relations Avi Shlaim served in the Israeli army and has never questioned the state's legitimacy. But its merciless assault on Gaza has led him to devastating conclusions

                                                                                http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...estine/print?2
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                                                                                  • tony299
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                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 57021
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                                                    How Israel brought Gaza to the brink of humanitarian catastrophe

                                                                                    Oxford professor of international relations Avi Shlaim served in the Israeli army and has never questioned the state's legitimacy. But its merciless assault on Gaza has led him to devastating conclusions

                                                                                    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...estine/print?2
                                                                                    Wait what he said is actually true and makes sense he must be antisemitic. lol

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                                                                                      • onwebcam
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                                                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                                                        • 27689
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by Cherry7
                                                                                        300 children murdered.....

                                                                                        Israel has now become the Germany of the Middle East....
                                                                                        Yep this is something all Jews should be really proud of. This little girl (whats left of her) must have been real dangerous.


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                                                                                          • onwebcam
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                                                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                                                            • 27689
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                                                                                            If you read my previous posts you will see I'v never been pro-Israel anything. sadly, I was dead wrong because after reading up on Hamas. Did you know we Americans pressured Israel (after they pleaded "no" many times) to support Hamas because they completely hated the PLO and opposed Yasser Arafat? Did you know the US government then pressured Israel to let them have free elections and the Palestinians elected Hamas?

                                                                                            Then Hamas Rockets Israel and now everyone hates Israel and blames them. There are two factions at fault here. The US for getting involved and Hamas for rocketing Israel.

                                                                                            so much disinfo so little time... Israel wanted to counter Arafat

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                                                                                              • directfiesta
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 30176
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Isradude
                                                                                                i just wonder what would some of the people here expect their government to to if their houses were bombed for 8 years .......

                                                                                                it's funny how you guys are such great humanitarians when it comes to Palestinians ... but i didn't hear a thing while Israelis were killed.

                                                                                                war sucks !!!! i don't support war, and neither most Israelis !! however, when this is the only option that's what we will do !

                                                                                                Peace everyone !
                                                                                                Do you realise that you have 1000 more chances ( or bad luck ) to die in a car accident then by a rocket in Israel ....






                                                                                                PS: this type of argumentation is often used by the far right of which you belong.
                                                                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                  • Libertine
                                                                                                    sex dwarf
                                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                                    • 17860
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by martinsc
                                                                                                    http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/
                                                                                                    That little piece of propaganda shows exactly what's wrong with both sides. It talks about "the arabs" and "the jews" as if they were completely uniform groups with a single opinion. They're not.
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                                                                                                      • Jensen
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                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                                        • 3790
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        What really bothers me is that the isreali soldiers are shelling and firing upon clearly marked U.N vehicles and other aid organisations. Are they blind or just stupid or what?

                                                                                                        Just read that a vehicle owned by Norwegian Peoples Aid were hit by a rocket last night outside Beach Camp north of Gaza. No military targets were close at all and this was in the middle on a residential area. Luckily no persons were killed but what the heck are they thinking hitting aid cars that are clearly marked?

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                                                                                                          • buzzy
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                                                                                                            • May 2007
                                                                                                            • 2606
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                                                                                                            If you read my previous posts you will see I'v never been pro-Israel anything. sadly, I was dead wrong because after reading up on Hamas. Did you know we Americans pressured Israel (after they pleaded "no" many times) to support Hamas because they completely hated the PLO and opposed Yasser Arafat? Did you know the US government then pressured Israel to let them have free elections and the Palestinians elected Hamas?

                                                                                                            Then Hamas Rockets Israel and now everyone hates Israel and blames them. There are two factions at fault here. The US for getting involved and Hamas for rocketing Israel.
                                                                                                            It's good that you are doing your research instead of blindly believing what people say on here, but this conflict didn't start when Hamas started firing rockets, it has been going on for over 60 years, so ask why are Hamas firing rockets?

                                                                                                            Probally because Israel has them under occupation and apartheid.

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                                                                                                              • Donfoolio
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                                                                                                                • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                • 963
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Isradude
                                                                                                                i just wonder what would some of the people here expect their government to to if their houses were bombed for 8 years .......

                                                                                                                it's funny how you guys are such great humanitarians when it comes to Palestinians ... but i didn't hear a thing while Israelis were killed.

                                                                                                                war sucks !!!! i don't support war, and neither most Israelis !! however, when this is the only option that's what we will do !

                                                                                                                Peace everyone !
                                                                                                                I personally don't give 2 shits about the palestinians, it's not that israel is bombing them unfairly that gets me mad. It is that israel is a blood soaked country based on the belief that their religion is supreme and the people are "chosen" by god to lead mankind. Any race that thinks like this should be wiped off the face of the earth. Humanity is in danger when wackos who use religion as a reason to fuck up the world for everyone else.

                                                                                                                Fuck your holy land, and especially fuck your GOD! It's all bullshit, some vengeful favorite taking temperamental god invented by a vengeful vein temperamental race. For people in this day and age to believe so strongly in such nonsense to the point they war over shitty land because it's supposed to be "holy" BS it's all about one greedy asshole race wanting to get rid of the members of it's race who don't follow their ways. So in sumation , honestly from the bottom of my heart, fuck all jews and arabs, you're all sand people who should be cut down like the money grubbing jawa's and filthy tusken raiders you all are.
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                                                                                                                  • Isradude
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                                                                                                                    • Mar 2008
                                                                                                                    • 1842
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by buzzy
                                                                                                                    Israeli forces shelled a house in the Gaza Strip which they had moved around 110 Palestinians into 24 hours earlier, the UN quotes witnesses as saying.
                                                                                                                    this UN?

                                                                                                                    Amit "Isradude"
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                                                                                                                      • Vexes
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        There will not be peace until one side is allowed to win. Let them get it on, and have a winner.

                                                                                                                        For anyone complaining about Civilian deaths must forget their country - no matter which it is, has killed millions of civilians in previous wars.

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                                                                                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                            • 28609
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Vexes
                                                                                                                            For anyone complaining about Civilian deaths must forget their country - no matter which it is, has killed millions of civilians in previous wars.
                                                                                                                            yes we used to burn witches too , maybe we should bring that back
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                                                                                                                              • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                • 29026
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Maybe Hamas targets were hiding out there. You know they have no qualms about hiding in schools, mosques and hospitals.

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                                                                                                                                  • Donfoolio
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                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                    • 963
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                    Maybe Hamas targets were hiding out there. You know they have no qualms about hiding in schools, mosques and hospitals.
                                                                                                                                    were you there watching these main leaders? Did you grow up with them?
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                                                                                                                                      • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                        • 29026
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                                                        Do you realise that you have 1000 more chances ( or bad luck ) to die in a car accident then by a rocket in Israel ....


                                                                                                                                        Especially if you live in New York city.

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                                                                                                                                          • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Isradude
                                                                                                                                            i just wonder what would some of the people here expect their government to to if their houses were bombed for 8 years .......
                                                                                                                                            Yes, Palestinian rockets are bad, I mean look at the damage they do. This place now needs a new roof.



                                                                                                                                            Easy to forget there is no real army in Palestine only cheap rockets.

                                                                                                                                            In retaliation Israel bombs Gaza for two weeks strait killing 600 people. Good work.

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                                                                                                                                              • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                • 29026
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Donfoolio
                                                                                                                                                were you there watching these main leaders? Did you grow up with them?
                                                                                                                                                Everyone is so quick to demonize Israel, but they forget that the Palestinians don't come out looking too clean in this whole mess either. Hamas is a dirty bunch, and are basically terrorists. They would use children as shield, if they have the chance.

                                                                                                                                                Israel has brought this upon themselves, by basically stealing their land, and running them out of their own territory, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't defend themselves.

                                                                                                                                                I've always felt sympathetic towards native Americans, and think they got a raw deal, but that doesn't mean the US shouldn't squash them if they try to take back what's theirs.
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                                                                                                                                                  • LadyMischief
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                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Civilian Casualties happen during anything like that.. there's loss on both sides. Imagine how people felt after ww2 and YEARS of bombardment on their homes and other civilllian places.. Sad, but true.

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                                                                                                                                                      • buzzy
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                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                                                        Yes, Palestinian rockets are bad, I mean look at the damage they do. This place now needs a new roof.



                                                                                                                                                        Easy to forget there is no real army in Palestine only cheap rockets.
                                                                                                                                                        Oh the horror! The poor, oppressed people of Sderot and Ashkelon...we can only imagine what they go through!

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                                                                                                                                                          • LadyMischief
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                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                                                            Yes, Palestinian rockets are bad, I mean look at the damage they do. This place now needs a new roof.



                                                                                                                                                            Easy to forget there is no real army in Palestine only cheap rockets.

                                                                                                                                                            In retaliation Israel bombs Gaza for two weeks strait killing 600 people. Good work.
                                                                                                                                                            So cheap rockets are worse than not cheap rockets why? You think the Israeli's who have been subjected to those rockets for how long now would feel any differently than the palastinians who have been attacked by Israeli rockets? How about we have one of each pointed at you and when they're done you tell us all which was the lesser of two evils.

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                                                                                                                                                              • LadyMischief
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                                                                                                                                                                Oh and I am not picking sides, I actually have friends who live in both countries. However, it doesn't matter who's side anyone is one, the fact of the matter is NEITHER side is without blame. Pretty much the case in 99.9% of wars.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                                                                                                    So cheap rockets are worse than not cheap rockets why? You think the Israeli's who have been subjected to those rockets for how long now would feel any differently than the palastinians who have been attacked by Israeli rockets? How about we have one of each pointed at you and when they're done you tell us all which was the lesser of two evils.
                                                                                                                                                                    If you shoot me in the ass with a BB gun and I retaliate by blowing your head off with a double-barreled shotgun, yes, it will make a difference

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                                                                                                                                                                      • roly
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                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                                                                                                        Civilian Casualties happen during anything like that.. there's loss on both sides. Imagine how people felt after ww2 and YEARS of bombardment on their homes and other civilllian places.. Sad, but true.
                                                                                                                                                                        technology has moved on a little from ww2, over 25% civilian casualties in the current conflict is way too high

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                                                                                                            Oh and I am not picking sides, I actually have friends who live in both countries. However, it doesn't matter who's side anyone is one, the fact of the matter is NEITHER side is without blame. Pretty much the case in 99.9% of wars.
                                                                                                                                                                            Except Palestine isn't really a country and has no army.

                                                                                                                                                                            Palestine has been more like a reserve.

                                                                                                                                                                            This is what an Israeli friend (believe it or not) had to say in defense of the Palestinians :

                                                                                                                                                                            If you put a cat in cage and poke it daily with a stick it will come out scratching.

                                                                                                                                                                            The solution is not to say "see the cat is crazy and deserves to be caged" then poke it some more.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • roly
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                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                                                                                                                So cheap rockets are worse than not cheap rockets why? You think the Israeli's who have been subjected to those rockets for how long now would feel any differently than the palastinians who have been attacked by Israeli rockets? How about we have one of each pointed at you and when they're done you tell us all which was the lesser of two evils.
                                                                                                                                                                                have you seen the casualty figures over the past 5 years? 6 israelies die to every 100 palestinans

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Donfoolio
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                                                                    Everyone is so quick to demonize Israel, but they forget that the Palestinians don't come out looking too clean in this whole mess either. Hamas is a dirty bunch, and are basically terrorists. They would use children as shield, if they have the chance.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Israel has brought this upon themselves, by basically stealing their land, and running them out of their own territory, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't defend themselves.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I've always felt sympathetic towards native Americans, and think they got a raw deal, but that doesn't mean the US shouldn't squash them if they try to take back what's theirs.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Wow, that last sentence is an oxymoron if I've ever heard one. "The US should squash Native Americans if they try to take back what is THEIRS" And there is the problem. Too many people think this way. It's all about fuck all non whites! I suppose you feel the blondies should keep all the diamond, gold, silver, etc etc mines they "own" in Africa as well too? Of course the people there that own the land and live there for generations should FUCKING DIE if they get in the way of white power.
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Donfoolio
                                                                                                                                                                                        Wow, that last sentence is an oxymoron if I've ever heard one. "The US should squash Native Americans if they try to take back what is THEIRS" And there is the problem. Too many people think this way. It's all about fuck all non whites! I suppose you feel the blondies should keep all the diamond, gold, silver, etc etc mines they "own" in Africa as well too? Of course the people there that own the land and live there for generations should FUCKING DIE if they get in the way of white power.
                                                                                                                                                                                        It's not about white power. Some people are conquered, and I like NOT being among them. I'd also like it to remain that way. What am I (and you) supposed to do? Just give everything up and let everyone have what's rightfully theirs? It's great to be sympathetic and idealistic, but it doesn't help you in the real world.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I even think that Islamic extremist terrorists have their side of the story, and they feel that they are fighting for a just cause. They believe what they do is right, and it is, if you look at things from their perspective. Does that mean I think they SHOULDN'T be hunted down and killed like cockroaches?
                                                                                                                                                                                        Last edited by bronco67; 01-10-2009, 10:28 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                                                                            Maybe Hamas targets were hiding out there. You know they have no qualms about hiding in schools, mosques and hospitals.
                                                                                                                                                                                            So explains, that even according to the IDF, there are not many Hamas fighters in the 800 deads .... ?

                                                                                                                                                                                            How come we do not see in the rubble rocket launchers, RPG, machine guns ...?

                                                                                                                                                                                            What we see is kids and women...

                                                                                                                                                                                            Nice going Israel... Makes me proud that we gave you a country.
                                                                                                                                                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Donfoolio
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                                                                                It's not about white power. Some people are conquered, and I like NOT being among them. I'd also like it to remain that way. What am I (and you) supposed to do? Just give everything up and let everyone have what's rightfully theirs? It's great to be sympathetic and idealistic, but it doesn't help you in the real world.

                                                                                                                                                                                                I even think that Islamic extremist terrorists have their side of the story, and they feel that they are fighting for a just cause. They believe what they do is right, and it is, if you look at things from their perspective. Does that mean I think they SHOULDN'T be hunted down and killed like cockroaches?
                                                                                                                                                                                                It's easy to see what you are.

                                                                                                                                                                                                as for the shoe being on the other foot, the world works in a system one day it will be the other way around, maybe not in our lifetimes but it will be turned around. That is the nature of the universe. As long as attitudes like yours exist war will be the sum of humanity.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Donfoolio
                                                                                                                                                                                                    It's easy to see what you are.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    as for the shoe being on the other foot, the world works in a system one day it will be the other way around, maybe not in our lifetimes but it will be turned around. That is the nature of the universe. As long as attitudes like yours exist war will be the sum of humanity.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    And where do you live? In the States? So yuou're saying you'd give up your life and your family's, as long as some poor people are not oppressed? I doubt that. If Islamic terrorism affected you directly, you would not be saying these things.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    You don't what I am. Just because I like living, and care about my own family's survival, does not make me evil. I say them get before they get us! Everyone else thinks that also. They just wouldn't say it, because they like to perpetuate the idea that war is not necessary, and someday we will all settle our differences and hug each other in utopia.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by bronco67; 01-10-2009, 12:20 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Human shields?
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