Rockets hit Israel from Lebanon

We are just a few days from all out war in the middle East. A few more rockets and Israel will roll again into Lebanon.

well, the Jews have killed 100 kids in Gaza, now they'll have the chance to kill another 100 in Lebanon, jsut to keep some sort of a balance, you know, 100 kids here, 100 kids there...

Hmmmm. In a World, where Holocaust Survivors create a New Holocaust... "and this time it's for real."
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Lets get real here.. I'll be the first to admit Israel isn't a angel but they are doing what they have to do.. Should they just sit there and let the rockets keep falling on their heads and maybe ask the UN to hold hands and sing song with them?

Hezbollah has always hidden among women and children to force the issue of Israel having to attacking them in places that will always cause collateral damage. Why don't you bitch about Hezbollah hiding behind the children?

huh?.....

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I would fire back to, even harder.

yes, looks like those islamic bastards want to have some additional fun

there would have been a lot more then 100 kids dead in Israel if the government of Israel didnt protect it's citizens like any other country would.

I'm certainly not taking sides - if your country gets hit (talking about the Hamaz idiots who were shooting rockets) then you have the full right to protect your people but bombing the shit out of civilians - seriously, was this the only way?

There will never be peace in the middle east. That part of the world has known nothing but unrest and bloodshed since the beginning of recorded history and there is no evidence that there will ever be an end to it.

you can ask the same question about every war.... was this the only way?
months upons years of bombings from hamas and people who can't live their lives quietly in the end Israel got tired of it and shit hit the fan for gaza

there are shitloads of tunnels under civilian houses and terrorist living between civilians that look exactly like any other person, how are you supposed to distinguish between innocent and hamas people? when hamas people walk on the street with a kid on their back so their dont get bombed what do you think your country's military commander will order to kill or not to kill?

its hamas who are using their people as shields so people on the outside will fill sorry for them....its like a hostage situation kill me and ill kill the innocent guy.

palestinian civilians get in the way, but israel does a shitload more then hamas to try and protect them, if you live in gaza and didnt get the fuck out of any area that there's shooting you are pretty fucking stupid.

killing innocent people sucks but there's a problem and israel wants to solve it, not get rid of it so it will come back bigger and stronger next year.

That's fucked up!

So, if someone hides behind his children and shoots at you with a gun, you would not shoot back and prefer to die rather than shoot back?

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This world can not wait to burn..

They are having to bomb civilians because Hamas is hiding behind them.

The big difference here is that Israeli soldiers fight to protect civilians, Hamas uses civilians as protection.

Hamas wins either way.... They don't care about their own civilians. They use them as shields. When the Israeli's hold their fire so that they don't hit civilians, then Hamas gets to keep on shooting from that position. When Israel does shoot back, and civilians are killed inevitably, then Hamas wins because the world condemns Israel.

People talk about proportional defense, so what is Israel supposed to do? Hamas has fired about 6,000 rockets over last 3 years indiscriminately into civilian areas of Israel. So then should Israel fire 6,000 rockets randomly into Gaza? Would that be better?

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not long now

Shows how much of an idiot you are. Most of Hezbollah's operations are committed in the mountains, etc. They don't fire rockets from the center of Beirut (although Israel does bomb there as some infrastructure such as television networks/leaders, etc are there, being that the entire Shiite population of Lebanon supports them). They have a sophisticated underground network established throughout the mountainside. Israel should of been serious about peace decades ago, they never have been and for the foreseeable future won't be. They are quite happy with the status-quo as it only further legitimizes Jerusalem, key settlement areas, etc as their own.

Spoken like it was straight out the mouth of an Israeli PR spokesman. Keep up the good work.

If Hamas uses civillian as human shields, then the civillian population wouldn't support Hamas would they?

Use your fucking brain. I can't believe how many people buy into the Israeli bullshit.

I won´t defend Hamas because I don´t like that kind of policy. But here it´s necessary to analyze the situation into its context. I am sure Hamas would prefer to have a huge military force to avoid that dependence from the civilian people. Into the logic of this world, from the perspective of the people in Gaza, they (Hamas and civilians) are in the same world.

How do you defend a region if you don´t have the resources to do it? You need to involve the people of that region. They are fighting against a country who force to their citizens to 4 fucking years of military service. If you have the money and resources to do that, great. Instead of that, Hamas can´t afford it, so the way they involve their people is completely different because they can´t have a professional army.

Anyway, Hamas is also responsible for this situation. They let shit come to where is now, but we all know that nothing justify the massacre that Israel is making there.

I got your point but I think it´s not exactly like that. Those civilians think with other logic. It´s like when Bush launched that fair campaign ?against the terrorist groups?. The people with power involve all the civilians with clever speech, they make people believe that the purpose of the people who govern is the purpose of the every fucking civilian. It´s a fight for the survival and the people living there must believe to be able to find a reason to justify what they are living now?

This is all a smoke screen, just like the famous WMD...

Israel has been planning for six months the attack on Gaza .
It has nothing to do with protecting Israelis from rockets...

It has all to do :

- upcoming Israeli election.
- Regime change ( since the democracy installed in Gaza is of he wrong flavor ) to remove Hamas completely, by destroying all the infrastructures of that tiny piece of land , forcing of a " friendly regime " on those people.

Gaza was sealed off ... where should they go ? To UN shelters .....

BTW, they already are refugees.... so now they would be refugees of refugees ... They left their houses ... once to see them taken away by Israelis ....

Same people that bought the American bullshit .... Stupid one day, stupid everyday

Good one

I ask myself the following questions: does the world know that the IDF calls and warns civilians before it strikes their homes, used as Hamas arms caches? Does the world know that in response to this, Hamas men place women and children on the roofs of buildings, because they know the IDF won't target them?

Does the world know that the IDF takes care of humanitarian needs and supplies medicine, food, and medical services to the Palestinians ?Does the world know that Hamas men fire from within population centers and turn civilians into human shields?

Does the world know that while we fight for our legitimate right to live in peace and security, Palestinian patients receive dedicated treatment at Israeli hospitals? Did the world hear about the 20 cases where Palestinians exploited their health problems in order to attempt to carry out terror attacks?

I ask myself, where was the world more than a year ago, when Hamas men massacred Fatah men and innocent members of their own people?

Does the world know that ever since Israel withdrew from Gaza in the summer of 2005, Hamas and its allies fired more than 6,000 rockets and mortar shells at Israel and hurt innocent civilians?

Mostly bullshit.

I dont deny Hamas fires rockets at civillians, they are in the wrong aswell.

But Israelis are such cry baby bitches, 20 civillians killed in the past 8 years, compared to thousands of Palestinians killed and you claim that you have it worse than them.

Israeli bullshit is American bullshit. It is the same people feeding the same lies. The US would not be in Iraq if not for Israel and the Zionist propaganda and political machine in the US.

Yes, don´t worry, we ALSO know that.

ISRAEL FUNDED HAMAS


Hamas, Son of Israel

You have no right to live in peace and security when you occupy and steal others lands and kick them out of their homes, hundreds of thousands of them.

that's not what i'm saying ......however, no country would allow 8!!! years of rocket launching on it's cities...... and we just had enough ..... i think that 8!! years is too long

we don't fight for oil or money like other countries .......... we fight for our right to live a normal life ......

peace : )

It's simple really.

Israel: Stop occupying west bank, dismantle settlements, and set a border with 1967 regulations, East Jerusalem as capital.

Then you have PEACE.

You know what's needed for peace, but the Israeli's don't seem to be commited to it.

Collateral damage happens when wars happen. I would have to say that Hammas has way less regard for Israeli children dieing then Israel has about killing anyone's kids.

I like the fact that they are stepping up and saying, "Well, you started this shit and now we are going to end it."

Diplomacy never works... That is how you end up with dictators...

Yeah i mean it's not like Israel bombs UN administrated schools or anything...

that's what Ehud Barak offered Yasser Arafat in Kemp-David in 1999. Arafat didn't accept it because that would have meant the end of fighting .......

Interesting.... When the 700,000+ Jews that had been living throughout the middle east for thousands of years were driven from their homes, after the creation of Israel, what happened? Israel took them in. THAT's why those Jews are not living in some refugee camp somewhere in the middle east.

When 700,000+ Arabs, in what became Israel, left their homes to join attacks against the Jews and then lost their homes, did any Arab country take them in? Or did they force them to rot in camps to be used as shock troops to destroy Israel.....

The Arabs in the middle east all claim to support the "palestinians", but none of the Arab countries will accept them as citizens. Meanwhile Israel actually helped it's own people when they were forced out of their homes, and meanwhile, the arabs that stayed in Israel have more rights and freedoms then arabs in any arabic country.

Don't know why I bother really.... history has become so distorted by the beautiful propaganda work of Arafat and his soviet teachers that it's almost pointless....



There is a great article in The Times

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle5461544.ece

"The poverty and the death and the despair among the Palestinians in Gaza moves me to tears. How can it not? Who can see pictures of children in a war zone or a slum street and not be angry and bewildered and driven to protest? And what is so appalling is that it is so unnecessary. For there can be peace and prosperity at the smallest of prices. The Palestinians need only say that they will allow Israel to exist in peace. They need only say this tiny thing, and mean it, and there is pretty much nothing they cannot have.

Yet they will not say it. And they will not mean it. For they do not want the Jews. Again and again - again and again - the Palestinians have been offered a nation state in a divided Palestine. And again and again they have turned the offer down, for it has always been more important to drive out the Jews than to have a Palestinian state. It is difficult sometimes to avoid the feeling that Hamas and Hezbollah don't want to kill Jews because they hate Israel. They hate Israel because they want to kill Jews.

There cannot be peace until this changes. For Israel will not rely on airy guarantees and international gestures to defend it. At its very core, it will not. It will lay down its arms when the Jews are safe, but it will not do it until they are.

And if you reflect on it, doesn't recent experience bear this out? Just as Herzl was borne out? A year or so back I met a teacher while I was on holiday and fell to talking with him about Israel. He was a nice man and all he wanted was for fighting to stop and to end the suffering of children. And he had a question for me.

Why, he asked, doesn't Israel offer to give back the West Bank and Gaza? Why doesn't it just let the Palestinians have a state there? If the Palestinians turned it down, he said, then at least liberal opinion would be on Israel's side and would rally to its assistance.

So I patiently explained to this kind, good man that Israel had, at Camp David in 2000, made precisely this offer and that it had been rejected out of hand by Yassir Arafat, not even used as the basis for negotiation. I told him that Israel was no longer in Gaza, having withdrawn unilaterally and taken the settlers with it. The Palestinians had greeted this movement with suicide bombs and rockets. Yet the teacher, with all his compassion, wasn't even aware of all this. And liberal opinion? Sad to relate, my new friend's faith in it was misplaced. It has turned strongly against Israel.

Israel has made many mistakes. It has acted too aggressively on some occasions, has been too defensive on others. The country hasn't always respected the human rights of its enemies as it should have done. What nation under such a threat would have avoided all errors?

But you know what? As Iran gets a nuclear weapon and so the potential for another Holocaust against the Jews and world opinion does nothing, I am not so sure that the errors of world opinion are so much to be preferred to the errors of Israel. "


There's a lot before that in the article, but those are some of the important bits.


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Yeah, it's not like Hamas set's up it's rocket launchers right at the school in order to put the students at risk or anything....



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Arabs did the same thing to almost the exact same number of Jews.... Only difference is that their fellow jews actually helped them and gave them an area to live, rather than force them to stay in camps, like the arabs did to their own....


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Yeah yeah same old excuse.

sure, we see that every day how Palestinians hate Terrorists from Hamas and all they want is peace Being a friend of terrorists = supporting terrorists = being a terrorist, period.


BTW, I bet its very hard not to hit some children as there is a population explosion between those retards, having 15 children per woman while living in poverty. You now they need a lot of new martyrs

no matter what, a war is always bad for everyone

Why do you think Hamas has their security compounds within Gaza and stores weapons under populated areas? Lack of open space in the desert?? Don't be stupid....

Do you know anything about the Holocaust? I just read a book about an Italian Jew who lived a year in Auschwitz. Holy fucking shit. They didn't just kill them in bulk... They locked up them, feed them a bowl of soup a day, worked them like dogs, and then when they are were on their deathbed they gassed them.

Millions of them.

Sorry, but this is the biggest crime against humanity ever. Slavery is number two but still doesn't come close.

And this shit that Israel is doing now.... Is nothing compared to the Holocaust.

I like that quote.

The reason Palestinians let their civilians die in great numbers (or falsify numbers: recall "Jenin Massacre") is because it brings people like you on to their side which lets them continue the wars. You aren't doing peace any favors.

What desert?!? Shows how much you know.

The size of the Gaza strip is 139 sq mi.

In population density it is right up there between Gibraltar and Singapore.