Choker (chickentraffic.com) are you selling traffic to tube8 & xhamster?

No problem man..

Yea but one has to assume the profit margins for the bandwidth isn't as much as other paying customers. Typically these hosts give the illegal tube sites very, very good deals on the BW, many times at break even prices.

The reason being, is the amount of BW they burn, allows the host to negotiate much lower prices from their providers. Thus allowing them greater profit from their other paying customers.

I have never said that
IF the content is obviously CP (6 year old) then you can pull the site without a police response and without every asking for the fucking id.

this kind of bullshit misrepresentation would be the equivalent of me saying you support keeping the site up and running while the person is "looking" for the id when you see a 6 year old being raped.


The ambiguious CP/Barely legal content is what we are talking about, the ones which you can't be sure off without seeing the id first.

There is a huge difference between the two.




and you are ignoring the point again, it is a zero sum game. If one single gallery in one single tgp has CP on it then you are selling to CP. It is impossible to get rid of it all
Which means under your example no one could sell traffic.

Can you name a single traffic provider which says is a single CP gallery exists anywhere on any site we sell traffic, we will completely shut down our network.

Until every single CP gallery is removed form every single site that choker could sell traffic too, the problem is not solved.

so until all the CP on the internet is gone, the choice i am asking you to make is a valid one, and you are just dodging the question because your trying to tie CP and copyright infrignement together to justify draconian measures against legal content (safe harbor protected).

I will ask it again.

This thread is funky...

Indeed, good read to start off my day

Intresting,didnt know that.That would explain those tube special deals.

cept that wouldnt work because you already know i advocate removing illegal things first

you cant tell anyones age without id period. I realise you have magical age guessing abilities but the rest of us don't








and my theory is do the best you can, your theory is wait for the dmca



you can ask again and again , you have already had your question answered many times. I realise you like to talk and repeat yourself over and over, it usually what delusional people do to convince themselves they doing the right thing.

Its very simple , everyone on this board can understand. Dont support illegal shit as best you can.

Now you can come back with 1000 excuses , timeshifting fanatsies or you could just take the advice and learn from it.

Bump for you brotha!

So let's keep the good literature on the 1st. page...

ok so you want all barely legal content removed instantly taken down
and only put back if they produce id
got it personally i think they should legally stay up if they are legal content.


you don't have to tell someone exact age to distiguish between cp and non cp

you just have to tell the difference between under 18 and over 18

a six year old getting raped is clearly CP

a sixty year old fucking is clearly not CP
wasting resources looking at the id of the 60 year old is just that a waste of resources.
IT does nothing to stop CP.







that is not what you are saying
if you were saying that you would agree with me total

Look at it another way
assume that choker is doing the same level of searching for CP that he is currently doing for stolen content (what crocket is bitching about)

He would check thru every gallery listed on the tgp/mpg to make sure that it was non cp
He would not check the trades
and he would not check updates every single day but pulls traffic from sites that prove that it is cp when reported.
According to deeplink research report the 6 degrees rule applies to the web.
Which mean after going 6 degree deep every site is covered.

You want him to do both equally,
i on the other hand want him to completely check all the way down to 6 degrees before he spends dime going above and beyond the law to prevent your stolen content issue.

I realize that going 6 degrees down would mean he would be reviewing 25*25^6 galleries each an every day. and that would be impossible to do even if he charge $150/k for traffic. So i am smart enough to realize that every dollar he spends dealing with your stolen content issue is allowing cp to exist on the internet.

but it not that black and white,
1. fair use makes content issue legal which means it not illegal shit
2. to perfectly solve the problem you have to spend more money then choker is charging for content which means
2 a) every penny you take away from the pool to deal with the non illegal "stolen content" issue allows more cp to exist on the internet.

just for the record
we were talking about a situation where barely legal content would be taken down by a false CP complaint and how the host/provider should be held legally liable for the lost income for the amount of time it was down (something choker would have to accept if he took the site down and content was legally licienced)

And you twisted it to say i supported keeping a gallery of a 6 year old being raped until a court order from the police (something i clearly did not say since we were talking about barely legal content wrongfully being taken down)


So yes misrepresenting my statement is in fact equal to the misrepresentation you are making of my statements

By definition that is exactly what a misrepresentation is.

a lot of clueless people in this thread