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  • sortie
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    • Mar 2007
    • 7771
    #1

    The reason I don't go mainstream.

    Very simple :

    I have never been able to decide how to make money that way.

    I thought about pay per click/adsense and I just don't see the money there without
    goo-gobs of traffic, which I don't have.

    I haven't seen products that I think I can sell.

    Adult is easy, just join sponsors and send traffic.

    I know some people are doing it and making big bank, but it's one of those
    things where some can do it and others can/will not.

    OR....maybe I just like porn.
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    • polish_aristocrat
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      • Jul 2002
      • 40377
      #2
      Originally posted by sortie

      adult is easy, just join sponsors and send traffic.
      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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        • 96ukssob
          So Fucking Banananananas
          • Mar 2003
          • 12991
          #3
          Originally posted by sortie
          Very simple :

          I have never been able to decide how to make money that way.

          I thought about pay per click/adsense and I just don't see the money there without
          goo-gobs of traffic, which I don't have.

          I haven't seen products that I think I can sell.

          Adult is easy, just join sponsors and send traffic.

          I know some people are doing it and making big bank, but it's one of those
          things where some can do it and others can/will not.

          OR....maybe I just like porn.
          ive been involved with both, and hands down adult is MUCH more enjoyable not just because i get to look at boobies all day, but people are much nicer as well
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            • JamesK
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              • Jun 2002
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              #4
              Mainstream is great. It just takes more brain to be successful
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                • BradM
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                  • Dec 2003
                  • 3397
                  #5
                  Because you're untalented, angry, idiotic and can't program? I'm guessing that is why.

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                    • crockett
                      in a van by the river
                      • May 2003
                      • 76818
                      #6
                      Originally posted by BradM
                      Because you're untalented, angry, idiotic and can't program? I'm guessing that is why.
                      Jesus, would you girls go take your arguments to a private forum or something. It's tiring seeing the little group of you girls bickering at each other like a bunch of high school tawts, non stop in every other topic.
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                        • woj
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 47880
                          #7
                          Originally posted by JamesK
                          Mainstream is great. It just takes more brain to be successful
                          but I'm not really sure it takes more brain, it's just a bit different... the mainstream market is 100x bigger than adult, so there are way more opportunities to make a buck there, so in a way it's actually easier...
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                            • marketsmart
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                              • Dec 2004
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                              #8
                              mainstream rules, but it is def a lot more work....

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                                • sortie
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                                  • Mar 2007
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                  Jesus, would you girls go take your arguments to a private forum or something. It's tiring seeing the little group of you girls bickering at each other like a bunch of high school tawts, non stop in every other topic.
                                  Hey, I'm not in it anymore.

                                  I agree.

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                                    • JamesK
                                      hi
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 16731
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by woj
                                      but I'm not really sure it takes more brain, it's just a bit different... the mainstream market is 100x bigger than adult, so there are way more opportunities to make a buck there, so in a way it's actually easier...
                                      Well looking at GFY for example I think it's fair to conclude most of the people in adult business are either completely braindead or mentally challenged.
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                                        • WiredGuy
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 34515
                                          #11
                                          Its completely different mainstream and adult marketing, but there's definitely a lot more money to be made in mainstream.
                                          WG
                                          I play with Google.

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                                            • sortie
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                                              • Mar 2007
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                              Its completely different mainstream and adult marketing, but there's definitely a lot more money to be made in mainstream.
                                              WG
                                              With adult I never have to worry about content and that is probably what
                                              keeps me doing adult.

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                                                • Donfoolio
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                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                  • 963
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by sortie
                                                  With adult I never have to worry about content and that is probably what
                                                  keeps me doing adult.
                                                  Nothing wrong with diversification sometimes. Especially if you have mastered what you do now and have more time on your hands.
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                                                    • seven
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                                                      • Apr 2002
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Donfoolio
                                                      Nothing wrong with diversification sometimes. Especially if you have mastered what you do now and have more time on your hands.
                                                      agreed
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                                                        • Europeeing Lee
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                                                          • Feb 2006
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                                                          #15
                                                          the ONLY reason you haven't done anything in mainstream is because you are an idiot who doesn't know any better, and just wants to make new threads on a surfmaster board to see if people click his siggy some more

                                                          people EVOLVE from adult into mainstream, it isn't a fucking choice, once you learn enough and get more business sense, you have no choice but to expand outward beyond porn

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                                                            • wyldblyss
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                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                              • 5779
                                                              #16
                                                              I am a big believer in as much income as possible coming in from as many sources as possible so for me, I dabble in mainstream too (where I started).

                                                              Never hurts to have a backup just in case

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                                                                • germ
                                                                  ( o Y o )
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 3108
                                                                  #17
                                                                  If you know how to push traffic to websites, it shouldnt really matter what's on those websites.

                                                                  Promote whatever makes the most money.

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                                                                    • Jdoughs
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by germ
                                                                      If you know how to push traffic to websites, it shouldnt really matter what's on those websites.

                                                                      Promote whatever makes the most money.

                                                                      Exactly, my grandmother used to say:

                                                                      "A good salesmen will never be out of a job, it don't matter what they are selling if they are a good salesmen."

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                                                                        • tony299
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                                                                          • Aug 2002
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Alot more money to be made in mainstream but its much much harder to generate free traffic.

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                                                                            • sortie
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                                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                                              • 7771
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Europeeing Lee
                                                                              the ONLY reason you haven't done anything in mainstream is because you are an idiot who doesn't know any better, and just wants to make new threads on a surfmaster board to see if people click his siggy some more

                                                                              people EVOLVE from adult into mainstream, it isn't a fucking choice, once you learn enough and get more business sense, you have no choice but to expand outward beyond porn
                                                                              Obviously you have no clue about what I do.

                                                                              But thanks anyway

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                                                                                • sortie
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by germ
                                                                                  If you know how to push traffic to websites, it shouldnt really matter what's on those websites.

                                                                                  Promote whatever makes the most money.
                                                                                  Yeah, but what do you sale for mainstream?

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                                                                                    • EthnicLover
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                                                                                      • Feb 2007
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      There are definitely a lot more niches to push in mainstream but there is also potentially a lot more competition. However, if you know how to funnel targeted traffic to your site then you shouldn't have a problem crossing over. Bottom line is though that you've got to enjoy whatever you sell online.


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                                                                                        • itto
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                          Yeah, but what do you sale for mainstream?
                                                                                          just have a look at clickbank's or paydotcom's marketplace - there's plenty of products!

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                                                                                            • sortie
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Donfoolio
                                                                                              Nothing wrong with diversification sometimes. Especially if you have mastered what you do now and have more time on your hands.
                                                                                              I had some good off-the-web mainstream but that took so much time.
                                                                                              (brick and mortar type)

                                                                                              I'd like to find a way to do that again without distracting from the wed too much
                                                                                              but so far I haven't seen a clear way to do that.

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                                                                                                • EthnicLover
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                                  Yeah, but what do you sale for mainstream?
                                                                                                  Its amazing the amount of crap that can be sold online. Just check out these sites and their niches:

                                                                                                  Money Clips
                                                                                                  Swords
                                                                                                  Muffins
                                                                                                  Log Cabin Furniture

                                                                                                  Friggin swords? I had no idea that many people bought swords in the world. What the hell do they do with them?

                                                                                                  So there are a lot of products to push. Just got to find what you like.


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                                                                                                    • sortie
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by itto
                                                                                                      just have a look at clickbank's or paydotcom's marketplace - there's plenty of products!
                                                                                                      I thought clickbank had closed.

                                                                                                      I signed up there years ago but never really got into it.

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                                                                                                        • XPays
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                                                                                                            • sortie
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by EthnicLover
                                                                                                              Its amazing the amount of crap that can be sold online. Just check out these sites and their niches:

                                                                                                              Money Clips
                                                                                                              Swords
                                                                                                              Muffins
                                                                                                              Log Cabin Furniture

                                                                                                              Friggin swords? I had no idea that many people bought swords in the world. What the hell do they do with them?

                                                                                                              So there are a lot of products to push. Just got to find what you like.
                                                                                                              That's interesting!

                                                                                                              The one thing I really wanted to sell online never had an affilate program.
                                                                                                              I spent $600 with them right away.
                                                                                                              I asked then about an affiliate program and they said they were closing thier biz
                                                                                                              because it was too slow.

                                                                                                              Man they should have gotten an affiliate program for sure.
                                                                                                              I just think they had no clue about the web.

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                                                                                                                • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                  #29
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                                                                                                                    • sortie
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                                                                                                                      #30
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                                                                                                                        • sortie
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
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                                                                                                                          For some reason I didn't like them; but that was back in 2000 or even earlier.

                                                                                                                          Worth a re-check.

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                                                                                                                            • itto
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                                                                                                                              • Jul 2006
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              another thing to consider when going mainstream is the difference in the sales-process.. first i just created blogs, linking to sales-pages. didn't work out. nowadays i create a squeeze-page where people opt-in for a free info product and i make 'em affiliate-sales in the backend (after 4 or 5 autoresponder mails). way better conversions i tell ya.

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                                                                                                                                • wyldblyss
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                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 5779
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by EthnicLover
                                                                                                                                  Its amazing the amount of crap that can be sold online. Just check out these sites and their niches:

                                                                                                                                  Money Clips
                                                                                                                                  Swords
                                                                                                                                  Muffins
                                                                                                                                  Log Cabin Furniture

                                                                                                                                  Friggin swords? I had no idea that many people bought swords in the world. What the hell do they do with them?

                                                                                                                                  So there are a lot of products to push. Just got to find what you like.
                                                                                                                                  Holy crap, $42 for 12 muffins..works out to be almost $3.56 each without shipping. As for the shipping, they won't even give you the price of it on the page, you have to enter your credit card number first.

                                                                                                                                  And they say porn is bad lol

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                                                                                                                                    • sortie
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                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2007
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by itto
                                                                                                                                      another thing to consider when going mainstream is the difference in the sales-process.. first i just created blogs, linking to sales-pages. didn't work out. nowadays i create a squeeze-page where people opt-in for a free info product and i make 'em affiliate-sales in the backend (after 4 or 5 autoresponder mails). way better conversions i tell ya.
                                                                                                                                      That's a good strategy.

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                                                                                                                                        • sortie
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by wyldblyss
                                                                                                                                          Holy crap, $42 for 12 muffins..works out to be almost $3.56 each without shipping. As for the shipping, they won't even give you the price of it on the page, you have to enter your credit card number first.

                                                                                                                                          And they say porn is bad lol
                                                                                                                                          Yeah, but have you tasted one yet.

                                                                                                                                          Maybe they are "herbal muffins".

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                                                                                                                                            • EthnicLover
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2007
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by wyldblyss
                                                                                                                                              Holy crap, $42 for 12 muffins..works out to be almost $3.56 each without shipping. As for the shipping, they won't even give you the price of it on the page, you have to enter your credit card number first.

                                                                                                                                              And they say porn is bad lol
                                                                                                                                              Yeah really. I guess someone is willing to pay a chuck of change for some muffins. I wonder if Gourmet Muffins taste any better than regular ones?


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                                                                                                                                                • Libertine
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                                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Mainstream is much easier, in my opinion. People tend to trust you more if you're able to present them with well-written advertisements that are packaged as "content".
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                                                                                                                                                    • EscortBiz
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      mainstream is not easy at all and you need 10x as much money and effort, but if you set it up right and put in the cash time and brains there is lots of money to be made but its not easy at all

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                                                                                                                                                        • sortie
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                                                                                                                          mainstream is not easy at all and you need 10x as much money and effort, but if you set it up right and put in the cash time and brains there is lots of money to be made but its not easy at all
                                                                                                                                                          I wonder why youtube does not do more.

                                                                                                                                                          They don't have to put it on the main page, just have a link to shopping.

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                                                                                                                                                            • germ
                                                                                                                                                              ( o Y o )
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 3108
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                                                                                              Yeah, but what do you sale for mainstream?
                                                                                                                                                              Heres a good place to look for mainstream offers.

                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                              www.cj.com
                                                                                                                                                              Also a solid place.

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                                                                                                                                                                • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  i noticed that in mainstream you have like 20-25% cancellations sometimes - depending on the product. it can be a bit frustrating when you come from adult and you have to take that into your calculation
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                                                                                                                                                                    • dav3
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Because mainstream commission is usually about 1%-4%?
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                                                                                                                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dav3
                                                                                                                                                                          Because mainstream commission is usually about 1%-4%?
                                                                                                                                                                          huh?

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                                                                                                                                                                            • xsabn
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              mainstream is boring ..

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                                                                                                                                                                                • dav3
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                  huh?

                                                                                                                                                                                  5678
                                                                                                                                                                                  Most of the products I want to push on CJ are small commission, which was kind of a let down. For instance, newegg was only 1%. Amazon is a little better at, I think, 4% for 1st tier.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • sortie
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dav3
                                                                                                                                                                                      Most of the products I want to push on CJ are small commission, which was kind of a let down. For instance, newegg was only 1%. Amazon is a little better at, I think, 4% for 1st tier.
                                                                                                                                                                                      That's the draw back for sure.

                                                                                                                                                                                      You gotta push big sales thru to make it.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Adult payouts are good and it's becoming plug-n-play : sign up, plug in, get check.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • J$tyle$
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                          i noticed that in mainstream you have like 20-25% cancellations sometimes - depending on the product. it can be a bit frustrating when you come from adult and you have to take that into your calculation
                                                                                                                                                                                          A bit frustrating, huh? Really? And what are the cancellation %'s in adult?

                                                                                                                                                                                          LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                          I've never seen an industry in my life that offers more to their "commissioned sales people" to help them make $$$. Ads, custom ads, Free Image Galleries, Free Movie Galleries, RSS Feeds, FREE HOSTING, FREE CONTENT, and the list goes on and on ... all FREE! Basically, "Here's everything YOU NEED and we'll foot the bill for all the costs of licensing, technology, hardware, bandwidth and anything else ... you just go bring sales, ok?" Don't get me wrong. I know it's not as easy as it once was to generate traffic and tubes, torrents, surfer rip forums, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah ... but it's almost a FREE "turnkey business" and has been for years now.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Do you think maybe that webmasters have been spoiled by adult and the PPS model? Sponsors pay more than they make per sale ... and on top of that, the affiliate program takes the hit on cancellations and charge backs. That is, unless it's a true partnership program - and there are very few REAL partnership programs in existence. That question/statement wasn't necessarily aimed at you, MaDalton - just a general question/statement

                                                                                                                                                                                          Affiliates are basically "sales people". You RARELY see a company/industry in "the real world" pay their sales people MORE than what they make on a sale. Don't get me wrong, it happens. The Cell Phone industry, for example, gave away the phone and paid 'reps' hundreds of $$$'s for new accounts back in the day - but at least they got customers/consumers to pay with long-term contracts.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dav3
                                                                                                                                                                                          Because mainstream commission is usually about 1%-4%?
                                                                                                                                                                                          Not quite. That's a huge generalization.

                                                                                                                                                                                          It really depends on what you're selling. If it's a retail physical item with low markup then low %'s are all you're going to get. If it's an "info product" or software you can make a much higher %.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • J$tyle$
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by sortie

                                                                                                                                                                                              Adult payouts are good and it's becoming plug-n-play : sign up, plug in, get check.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                                                                                                                                                                              it's almost a FREE "turnkey business" and has been for years now.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Exactly ...
                                                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by J$tyle$; 01-05-2009, 07:25 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Europeeing Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  sortie, I have seen you post enough over the past 6-8 months to be able to recognize that you don't know shit, and whenever you don't know something you always make a post and disguise it as a timid question about that particular something

                                                                                                                                                                                                  this thread was your attempt to get ideas about pushing mainstream products because you are obviously not doing well in adult...don't worry though, I did the same thing when I started out 13 years ago...you HAVE to put feelers out and see where the market is and see if anything tickles your fancy

                                                                                                                                                                                                  but the fact that you are obviously some 18 year old kid with absolutely no clue about how to work anything is what is laughable

                                                                                                                                                                                                  you make a couple of references in this thread about how easy adult is...you put up links and make sales...but I would venture to guess you couldn't even consistently make one sale a day with any program, otherwise you wouldn't beat into the gfy thread viewers heads about how you put up links and makes sales so easily

                                                                                                                                                                                                  my suggestion...go back to school, drop out of porn, and leave us the FUCK alone with your pseudo intellectual surfmaster verbal vomit

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • sortie
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 7771
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Europeeing Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                                      sortie, I have seen you post enough over the past 6-8 months to be able to recognize that you don't know shit, and whenever you don't know something you always make a post and disguise it as a timid question about that particular something

                                                                                                                                                                                                      this thread was your attempt to get ideas about pushing mainstream products because you are obviously not doing well in adult...don't worry though, I did the same thing when I started out 13 years ago...you HAVE to put feelers out and see where the market is and see if anything tickles your fancy

                                                                                                                                                                                                      but the fact that you are obviously some 18 year old kid with absolutely no clue about how to work anything is what is laughable

                                                                                                                                                                                                      you make a couple of references in this thread about how easy adult is...you put up links and make sales...but I would venture to guess you couldn't even consistently make one sale a day with any program, otherwise you wouldn't beat into the gfy thread viewers heads about how you put up links and makes sales so easily

                                                                                                                                                                                                      my suggestion...go back to school, drop out of porn, and leave us the FUCK alone with your pseudo intellectual surfmaster verbal vomit

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