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  • doridori
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2008
    • 2222

    #51
    read my posts carefully, i did not purchase from broker....

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    • TeenCat
      Too lazy to set a koala
      • Jan 2007
      • 16131

      #52
      so how are you doing man? any results?

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      • LeRoy
        Porn Pusher
        • Jul 2007
        • 13362

        #53
        Where are you directing this traffic? Is it to a paysite, Gallery or a blog ?

        Give us a link and I'm sure you'll get some help on converting that incoming traffic.
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        • genoveze
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2003
          • 455

          #54
          Originally posted by EscortBiz
          traffic that is for sale will not convert anything end of story
          he is 80% right
          Dorian

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          • doridori
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jul 2008
            • 2222

            #55
            hey guys, im still deciding where i should direct the traffic to. but im gonna start with a few blogs with promo content see how they do.....still working on it...

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            • AdPatron
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              • Apr 2003
              • 17706

              #56
              Originally posted by doridori
              hey guys, im still deciding where i should direct the traffic to. but im gonna start with a few blogs with promo content see how they do.....still working on it...
              Sending to a blog wont be as good as sending to a pay site directly.

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              • doridori
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2008
                • 2222

                #57
                so how about a FHG ? or a dating profile page.....

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                • pixovore
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                  • May 2005
                  • 1128

                  #58
                  Originally posted by JoesTraffic
                  Sending to a blog wont be as good as sending to a pay site directly.
                  agreed
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                  • Undisputed1
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 663

                    #59
                    Originally posted by AbsolutePorn
                    If the quality of the traffic is any good, do you think they would sell it?
                    a very good question...hmmm

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                    • AdPatron
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                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17706

                      #60
                      Originally posted by doridori
                      so how about a FHG ? or a dating profile page.....
                      All I can say is trial and error. Almost every pay site will have different results cause not all pay sites are the same. Some can make really good FHGs, but others suck at it.

                      My suggestion is that you send at least 1-10K to each type of landing page and see what converts better.

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                      • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 16502

                        #61
                        Originally posted by JoesTraffic
                        Sending to a blog wont be as good as sending to a pay site directly.
                        Unfortunately I require all traffic sent from my site to goto actual content pages as I don't want my surfers mad that I'm sending them straight to pay sites, or to stuff that doesn't reflect what they are clicking on.

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                        • AdPatron
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                          • Apr 2003
                          • 17706

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Retox Josh
                          Unfortunately I require all traffic sent from my site to goto actual content pages as I don't want my surfers mad that I'm sending them straight to pay sites, or to stuff that doesn't reflect what they are clicking on.
                          That is good.

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                          • doridori
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 2222

                            #63
                            yea good idea retox josh.

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                            • 96ukssob
                              So Fucking Banananananas
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 12991

                              #64
                              Originally posted by u-Bob
                              All traffic is good traffic if you know what you are doing.
                              what could you do with chinese popup traffic?

                              traffic quality has gone down quiet a bit for me. I used to buy traffic from brokers and make a decent return from it. Within the past 3-6 months, Im lucky to break even
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                              • Cash
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                                • Feb 2002
                                • 20825

                                #65
                                Why would anyone sell traffic for less, when they could convert it themselves for more?
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                                • the Shemp
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                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 10891

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Cash
                                  Why would anyone sell traffic for less, when they could convert it themselves for more?
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                                  • rowan
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 17393

                                    #67
                                    You paid $7/k for consoles? Wow. I'm going to start a new network of CJ1s right away!!! :D

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                                    • AdPatron
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                                      • Apr 2003
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                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Cash
                                      Why would anyone sell traffic for less, when they could convert it themselves for more?
                                      Shemp is right, a hell of a lot less work. AND I do use my own traffic to promote my own sites.

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                                      • bizarrejan
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2006
                                        • 1487

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by u-Bob
                                        All traffic is good traffic if you know what you are doing.


                                        I agree, It seems to me that people are dissing here and giving him a bit of a hard time, , but its true that to be optimum with your traffic, you need to research ,

                                        just my opinion,

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                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 40377

                                          #70
                                          so how's the test going?
                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                          • Ron2k1
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2001
                                            • 1573

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                            so how's the test going?

                                            He lost $68 so far, he is now figuring out where to spend his last $2 before the year ends.

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                                              • Apr 2003
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Ron2k1
                                              He lost $68 so far, he is now figuring out where to spend his last $2 before the year ends.
                                              Taco Bell?!

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                                              • skrinkladoo
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2007
                                                • 629

                                                #73
                                                I've converted. There is a method to make this work, and a reason to do it - but if your buying skimmed traffic from a tgp/mgp with all china (3rd world county traffic) and sending it anywhere - much less your paysite - your fucked. Also 70 for 7K is insane prices, way too high - you paid 3-4x's too much.
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                                                • AdPatron
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                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 17706

                                                  #74
                                                  Everyone who buys from me gets to create their ads, nothing is skimmed or blind.

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                                                  • doridori
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jul 2008
                                                    • 2222

                                                    #75
                                                    josh was nice to offer clicks instead of popups.

                                                    okay, sending 1k clicks to fling, and another 1k to ulust tomorrow.

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                                                    • Jim_Gunn
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 5702

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by doridori
                                                      josh was nice to offer clicks instead of popups.

                                                      okay, sending 1k clicks to fling, and another 1k to ulust tomorrow.
                                                      Cool, be sure to report back.

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                                                      • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                        • 16502

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by doridori
                                                        josh was nice to offer clicks instead of popups.

                                                        okay, sending 1k clicks to fling, and another 1k to ulust tomorrow.
                                                        After thinking about stuff, if he wants to convert it, obviously throwing the site in the surfers face isn't gonna do that, so I advised that clicks would be better then popups.

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                                                        • AdPatron
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by doridori
                                                          josh was nice to offer clicks instead of popups.

                                                          okay, sending 1k clicks to fling, and another 1k to ulust tomorrow.
                                                          What website(s) is this traffic coming from?

                                                          Telling us the source is just, if not more, as important as telling us the destination.

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                                                          • mikesinner
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                            • 5646

                                                            #79
                                                            Send it to a random live cam feed link that doesn't require a credit card to sign up for free chat or you probably have waisted your money. At least this way you can get %50 back.

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                                                              • 16502

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by JoesTraffic
                                                              What website(s) is this traffic coming from?

                                                              Telling us the source is just, if not more, as important as telling us the destination.
                                                              The traffic is coming from my babelog site that has almost 50% search engine traffic, not tons of traffic, but good quality traffic, and right now we're testing sending to a ulust page.

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                                                              • doridori
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jul 2008
                                                                • 2222

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by mikesinner
                                                                Send it to a random live cam feed link that doesn't require a credit card to sign up for free chat or you probably have waisted your money. At least this way you can get %50 back.
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                                                                • Lilit
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                  • 1645

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                  All traffic is good traffic if you know what you are doing.
                                                                  Word!

                                                                  I've seen a lot of experimenting with buying from traffic brokers, Search Engines and etc. and it's WRONG to state that only sending to tour directly works or only sending to cams works.

                                                                  If you're buying skimmed traffic as a feeder for example, you can't expect profit right away until the increase of traffic boosts your SE rankings and you start receiving quality traffic from search engines. This way it serves as "investment". But still I have a lot of examples of people who work with narrow niches and they manage to convert skimmed traffic and make good profit from it.

                                                                  I have examples of people who tried to convert low quality traffic through a fake TGP, but it didn't work at all at first. They kept trying and didn't say that the traffic is bad. And you know what the solution was? Slightly adjusting their thumbnails from hardcore to extreme and their ratios started to rock.

                                                                  What I'm saying is:
                                                                  1) Analyze sources of your purchased traffic, some traffic brokers publish the lists of the sites they work with. That will be a good help in targeting.
                                                                  2) Play with your landing page. Try different marketing strategies.

                                                                  Eventually it will pay off (quoting U-Bob here) "if you know what you're doing"

                                                                  Good luck
                                                                  Last edited by Lilit; 12-31-2008, 01:17 AM.
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                                                                  • V_RocKs
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                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 32451

                                                                    #83
                                                                    I would never popup something on one of my blogs...

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                                                                    • SordidMedia
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Oct 2008
                                                                      • 283

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by doridori
                                                                      so how about a FHG ?
                                                                      You certainly would not send $7 CPM traffic to a gallery.

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                                                                      • AdPatron
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                                                                        • Apr 2003
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                                        The traffic is coming from my babelog site that has almost 50% search engine traffic, not tons of traffic, but good quality traffic, and right now we're testing sending to a ulust page.
                                                                        Am I talking to you or doridori?

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                                                                        • The Judge
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2006
                                                                          • 1647

                                                                          #86
                                                                          You can make a LOT and I mean %600-%700 ROI from broker traffic but you also gotta invest a lot and I'm talking thousands. No way you can get any meaningful results from playing with a few dollars worth of traffic, you gotta buy and buy a lot. The sales keep coming for a long time after traffic stopped, because of bookmarkers. The only thing you gotta be careful is that when the broker sees you keep buying big traffic he will copy your method and send the traffic himself.
                                                                          Last edited by The Judge; 12-31-2008, 09:05 PM.

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                                                                          • lazycash
                                                                            Troll Patrol
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 15214

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Give JoesTraffic a shot, I've always done well with it.
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                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 52942

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                              youve got to buy the right kind of traffic for your needs..
                                                                              most people just buy the cheapest stuff they can find and hope that it makes sales...
                                                                              Why should it not work with traffic. People are convinced it works with content and look at how well we are all doing now.

                                                                              That was me being sarcastic. ;)



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                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                • 16502

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by The Judge
                                                                                You can make a LOT and I mean %600-%700 ROI from broker traffic but you also gotta invest a lot and I'm talking thousands. No way you can get any meaningful results from playing with a few dollars worth of traffic, you gotta buy and buy a lot. The sales keep coming for a long time after traffic stopped, because of bookmarkers. The only thing you gotta be careful is that when the broker sees you keep buying big traffic he will copy your method and send the traffic himself.
                                                                                I've never understood why people always say "you can't tell on 1k of traffic" or something like that? Why, because the traffic you get is so crappy you really can't tell? because I've had multiple sales off less then 1k of traffic, so if 3+ sales off 1k, becomes 30+ sales off 10k, is that enough to gauge or does it have to be 500k in traffic for you to fully figure out the traffic is worth something?

                                                                                If your traffic isn't complete shit, you shouldn't have to have hundreds of thousands of it to figure out if it's good or not.

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                                                                                • DamageX
                                                                                  Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                  • 14293

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                                                  I've never understood why people always say "you can't tell on 1k of traffic" or something like that? Why, because the traffic you get is so crappy you really can't tell? because I've had multiple sales off less then 1k of traffic, so if 3+ sales off 1k, becomes 30+ sales off 10k, is that enough to gauge or does it have to be 500k in traffic for you to fully figure out the traffic is worth something?

                                                                                  If your traffic isn't complete shit, you shouldn't have to have hundreds of thousands of it to figure out if it's good or not.
                                                                                  Because, considering all the variables involved, a 1K batch of traffic (or even 10K for that matter) is a statistically insignificant sample.
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                                                                                  • AdPatron
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                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                    • 17706

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                                                    I've never understood why people always say "you can't tell on 1k of traffic" or something like that? Why, because the traffic you get is so crappy you really can't tell? because I've had multiple sales off less then 1k of traffic, so if 3+ sales off 1k, becomes 30+ sales off 10k, is that enough to gauge or does it have to be 500k in traffic for you to fully figure out the traffic is worth something?

                                                                                    If your traffic isn't complete shit, you shouldn't have to have hundreds of thousands of it to figure out if it's good or not.


                                                                                    If you paid $5 for 1K, then yes, you need to do a larger test.

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                                                                                    • DamageX
                                                                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 14293

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by JoesTraffic
                                                                                      If you paid $5 for 1K, then yes, you need to do a larger test.
                                                                                      Price has nothing to do with it.
                                                                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                      • Juilan
                                                                                        Sultan of Swing
                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                        • 15141

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        you were right in calling this an experiment
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                                                                                        • EscortBiz
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                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                          • 19422

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          reminder 99.9999% of traffic that is sold dont matter what you push how much you spend you will not even remotely break even (im talking about broker style traffic not SE and traffic that you handpick from say a site like AFF or niche TGP etc)

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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                            Because, considering all the variables involved, a 1K batch of traffic (or even 10K for that matter) is a statistically insignificant sample.
                                                                                            Originally posted by JoesTraffic
                                                                                            If you paid $5 for 1K, then yes, you need to do a larger test.
                                                                                            So, if he paid me $75 for 10k of traffic, and made 5 $35 sales which equals $175, more then double what he paid, it's not a good enough test to see if it's worth continuing with?

                                                                                            I fail to see how that's not a good enough test...

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                                                                                            • ravo
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                              • 5464

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                                                              So, if he paid me $75 for 10k of traffic, and made 5 $35 sales which equals $175, more then double what he paid, it's not a good enough test to see if it's worth continuing with?

                                                                                              I fail to see how that's not a good enough test...
                                                                                              The answer is "it depends".

                                                                                              I hate to go all mathemtically on you guys, but this is an excellent (albeit old) read on 'expected' conversion rates, and how much traffic to send for a real test;

                                                                                              http://www.buildinganempire.com/poisson2.html
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                                                                                              • donnylong
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Mar 2007
                                                                                                • 2164

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by ravo
                                                                                                The answer is "it depends".

                                                                                                I hate to go all mathemtically on you guys, but this is an excellent (albeit old) read on 'expected' conversion rates, and how much traffic to send for a real test;

                                                                                                http://www.buildinganempire.com/poisson2.html
                                                                                                WTF

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                                                                                                • sortie
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                                                  • 7771

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Buying traffic is an art form.

                                                                                                  I'm not good at that art, but I know damn well that somebody out there is and
                                                                                                  they will continue to buy until the end of time.

                                                                                                  People selling traffic aren't making their living off nubes, they are living off
                                                                                                  regular buyers that have been buying for years.

                                                                                                  I'm not willing to believe that people who buy traffic for years keep doing it
                                                                                                  because they are stupid. On the contrary, they keep buying because they've
                                                                                                  figured out what I couldn't.

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                                                                                                  • alias
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                    • 19010

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by donnylong
                                                                                                    WTF
                                                                                                    READ this:

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                                                                                                    • jmcb420
                                                                                                      So Fucking Drunk
                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                                      • 2155

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      this thread was a great read.

                                                                                                      any results to speak of thus far?
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