Serious Matter. Is anyone else being SHAKED down for THOUSANDS by Jupiter Hosting??

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  • DeanCapture
    Haters & Trolls SUCK!
    • Dec 2002
    • 9275

    #101
    Bone - you should hit every single adult webmaster board that you can find and post about how Jupiter is trying to cheat you out of money and how difficult they are to do business with. If I were doing business with Jupiter, this would be enough for me to wanna find another host.
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    • Ethersync
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2008
      • 5289

      #102
      Originally posted by mmcfadden
      file with the bbb man... 9K is small claims in many states... it doesn't matter though. File a complaint... 99% of companies settle immediately because its a big deal to have red flags
      Deal with the BBB after the matter is resolved if you want, but the first thing to do is use the template I gave you a link for and send off a letter to them. Send the letter registered mail too. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!
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      • Ethersync
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2008
        • 5289

        #103
        Originally posted by DeanCapture
        Bone - you should hit every single adult webmaster board that you can find and post about how Jupiter is trying to cheat you out of money and how difficult they are to do business with. If I were doing business with Jupiter, this would be enough for me to wanna find another host.
        Yeah do this after sending them the letter though and don't post your contract on any more forums......
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        • mmcfadden
          So Fucking Banned
          • Oct 2008
          • 5099

          #104
          Originally posted by Ethersync
          Yeah do this after sending them the letter though and don't post your contract on any more forums......
          why not? sometimes u need to get some help from other people... i sure needed it. I'm talking SERVAGE indicated to me that I didn't own my site while it was down... that was my income...

          This site, for me, helps out and alot of fuckin people listen... If I or anyone else gets screwed it should be heard...

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          • Ethersync
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2008
            • 5289

            #105
            Originally posted by mmcfadden
            why not? sometimes u need to get some help from other people... i sure needed it. I'm talking SERVAGE indicated to me that I didn't own my site while it was down... that was my income...

            This site, for me, helps out and alot of fuckin people listen... If I or anyone else gets screwed it should be heard...
            I'm not talking about your specific situation here. I'm talking about the situation bonepro is in.
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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089

              #106
              Originally posted by boneprone
              So tell me people. This is the question.
              I wonder if they can and will take me to court for this?
              What day in November did you cancel?

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              • Spunky
                I need a beer
                • Jun 2002
                • 133978

                #107
                Hope it gets resolved quickly.ridiculous

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                • SuzzyQ
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1557

                  #108
                  Originally posted by boneprone
                  Ok found the contract.
                  It was from 2004

                  Here are some parts i took a screen shot of.

                  Boneprone,

                  Paragraph 'C' is strange. Does it mean if you cancel your 'service', they can continue to charge you until THEY find someone who wants the same hosting setup you had?

                  If that is the case, that is totally fucked up.
                  Last edited by SuzzyQ; 12-19-2008, 08:15 PM.

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                  • baddog
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2001
                    • 107089

                    #109
                    I can't believe you guys are talking about the BBB like they have some kind of pull. The Boy Scouts would do you as much good.

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #110
                      Originally posted by SuzzyQ
                      Boneprone,

                      Paragraph 'C' is strange. Does it mean if you cancel your 'service', they can continue to charge you until THEY find someone who wants the same hosting setup you had?

                      If that is the case, that is totally fucked up.
                      The first time I read it I thought it meant you can only cancel if you are upgrading.

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                      • mmcfadden
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5099

                        #111
                        Originally posted by baddog
                        I can't believe you guys are talking about the BBB like they have some kind of pull. The Boy Scouts would do you as much good.
                        really... i would take care of any complaint asap... maybe cause I just wanna have a good rep

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                        • boneprone
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 34415

                          #112
                          After talking to some friends of mine in the hosting biz, it looks like this IS LEGIT...

                          It was a shitty contract from the start.....


                          It was signed on October 22, 2004..
                          In the contract it says it auto renews Every year.

                          I canceled my hosting with them in November...

                          Which means I am responsible for paying the rest of the 12 months even though I left.

                          This is what the legal part of the Contract says.

                          So legally it looks like I owe them $9,000.00

                          This is Bullshit............ How shady..............


                          Ok. Now I need to find out what to do. Not sure if I can even fight this?

                          Fucking Jupiter....

                          Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                          Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                          http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                          Learn about it kids.

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                          • boneprone
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 34415

                            #113
                            Originally posted by SuzzyQ
                            Boneprone,

                            Paragraph 'C' is strange. Does it mean if you cancel your 'service', they can continue to charge you until THEY find someone who wants the same hosting setup you had?

                            If that is the case, that is totally fucked up.
                            Yeah thats what it means.

                            Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                            Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                            http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                            Learn about it kids.

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                            • boneprone
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 34415

                              #114
                              "Agreement shall renew automatically for successive one year term. "


                              I dont see a termination fee but they can charge for the remainder of the term left on the contract?

                              Which would be uhhhh,

                              $696.00 X 12 Months = About $9,000.00

                              Is this just common? It seems so shitty.

                              Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                              Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                              http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                              Learn about it kids.

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                              • Ethersync
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 5289

                                #115
                                Originally posted by boneprone
                                After talking to some friends of mine in the hosting biz, it looks like this IS LEGIT...

                                It was a shitty contract from the start.....


                                It was signed on October 22, 2004..
                                In the contract it says it auto renews Every year.

                                I canceled my hosting with them in November...

                                Which means I am responsible for paying the rest of the 12 months even though I left.

                                This is what the legal part of the Contract says.

                                So legally it looks like I owe them $9,000.00

                                This is Bullshit............ How shady..............


                                Ok. Now I need to find out what to do. Not sure if I can even fight this?

                                Fucking Jupiter....
                                Regardless if you think you owe it or not if you take my advice you may end up not having to pay anything at all.
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                                • boneprone
                                  Hall Of Fame
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 34415

                                  #116
                                  If I had canceled with them 3 weeks prior on a 10mpbs, $696.00 per month server it would have saved me $9,000.00

                                  And a lot of headache.

                                  Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                  Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                  http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                  Learn about it kids.

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                                  • Ethersync
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2008
                                    • 5289

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    I can't believe you guys are talking about the BBB like they have some kind of pull. The Boy Scouts would do you as much good.
                                    Exactly.
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                                    • boneprone
                                      Hall Of Fame
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 34415

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Ethersync
                                      Regardless if you think you owe it or not if you take my advice you may end up not having to pay anything at all.

                                      Specifiacally other than stopping with this thread (which I will not) what was your advice?

                                      I mean im being fucked here. I want it to be known. I stuck my reputation out for this company. Worked hard in helping build GFY and even Jupiters Reputation in the Adult Industry and now this happens.

                                      The people who started this contract on me were the owners of GFY and Jupiter. Still are owners of GFY. Granted they arent the ones enforcing this contract's horseshit but they started it.

                                      This just burns in every which way.

                                      Fuck everyone. Really fuck Everyone.

                                      Fuck the Old owners of Jupiter and Fuck Navisite..

                                      Before im done im going to be sure the reputaion of this company is known.
                                      Last edited by boneprone; 12-19-2008, 08:32 PM.

                                      Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                      Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                      http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                      Learn about it kids.

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                                      • Doctor Dre
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 51692

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by boneprone
                                        Jesus Christ. I dont need this headache...

                                        This all over miscommunication of shutting down a overpriced server?

                                        I was even willing to pay for 2 months of it. Hell Id be willing to pay for the whole 4 months.. But I really shouldnt. This is a FUCKING SHAKE DOWN..

                                        You cant put it any other way.
                                        You shouldn't pay a penny...
                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                                        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                        • Ethersync
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2008
                                          • 5289

                                          #120
                                          This advice:

                                          Originally posted by Ethersync
                                          Dispute the debt and make them furnish proof you owe this money. If they can not provide the proof, which is common, the entire matter is over with. No more stress, no hit on your credit report, no more problem.....

                                          Use the letter here: http://privacyrights.org/Letters/debt1.htm
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                                          • GAMEFINEST
                                            Make STACK$
                                            • Nov 2006
                                            • 14472

                                            #121
                                            for the amount of you sales you bought jupiter, this is how they say Thanks ...
                                            Compound interest.

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                                            • JC-OCCash
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 2756

                                              #122
                                              Hit me up..I have some info that'll make your head spin.....
                                              JC
                                              PRESIDENT

                                              OCCASH.COM - LORDSOFPORN.COM - FRESHCHECKS.COM - 702LOCATIONS.COM

                                              JC@OCCASH
                                              ICQ: 207659713

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                                              • mmcfadden
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Oct 2008
                                                • 5099

                                                #123
                                                BBB is more powerable then you may think...

                                                Just to let you know... I hear you and this forum is meant for threads like this

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                                                • Drake
                                                  Hello world!
                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 12508

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                  they are hoping that you do nothing and they will get a default judgement against you...


                                                  Correct, and it doesn't take an attorney to administer it either. They could put a paralegal to the task.

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                                                  • boneprone
                                                    Hall Of Fame
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 34415

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by JC-OCCash
                                                    Hit me up..I have some info that'll make your head spin.....
                                                    Post it.

                                                    Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                    Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                    http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                    Learn about it kids.

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                                                    • 2012
                                                      So Fucking What
                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                      • 17189

                                                      #126
                                                      wow, good luck
                                                      best host: Webair | best sponsor: Kink | best coder: 688218966 | Go Fuck Yourself

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                                                      • SuzzyQ
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2006
                                                        • 1557

                                                        #127
                                                        Boneprone, I just sent you a message on ICQ.. It *MIGHT* be a loophole for you to work with....

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                                                        • boneprone
                                                          Hall Of Fame
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 34415

                                                          #128
                                                          A lot of you guys are talking about defult judgement.
                                                          What is your suggestion for avoiding this?


                                                          I think I iwll be taking Ethersync's advice. Thank you.
                                                          He says:


                                                          "Dispute the debt and make them furnish proof you owe this money. If they can not provide the proof, which is common, the entire matter is over with. No more stress, no hit on your credit report, no more problem.....

                                                          Use the letter here: http://privacyrights.org/Letters/debt1.htm
                                                          "

                                                          Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                          Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                          http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                          Learn about it kids.

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                                                          • boneprone
                                                            Hall Of Fame
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 34415

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by SuzzyQ
                                                            Boneprone, I just sent you a message on ICQ.. It *MIGHT* be a loophole for you to work with....
                                                            hey people! you dont have my icq i guess!

                                                            its 66883099

                                                            Someone else must be playing boneprone

                                                            Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                            Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                            http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                            Learn about it kids.

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                                                            • boneprone
                                                              Hall Of Fame
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 34415

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by SuzzyQ
                                                              Boneprone, I just sent you a message on ICQ.. It *MIGHT* be a loophole for you to work with....

                                                              Can someone please give me SuzzyQ's icq???

                                                              I never got your icq. I dont think you have my icq. Id like to hear what you have to say.

                                                              Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                              Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                              http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                              Learn about it kids.

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                                                              • SuzzyQ
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2006
                                                                • 1557

                                                                #131
                                                                Boneprone, 424555637.. im on right now

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                                                                • mmcfadden
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Oct 2008
                                                                  • 5099

                                                                  #132
                                                                  oh jesus... again...

                                                                  don't pay a dime... this is hitting home if ya know what i mean

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                                                                  • stickyfingerz
                                                                    Doin fine
                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                    • 24984

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                    Yeah its not as if they didnt already make money off me.
                                                                    Id be VERY surprised if they pay over 25.00, and probably down closer to 20.00

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                                                                    • Puremeds-J
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2008
                                                                      • 939

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Tell them you need proof that you owe them.. its that simple.. If they dont give it to you in 30 days, you pay nothing.. If they keep calling, writing, without giving proof, file harrasement charges.

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                                                                      • Snake Doctor
                                                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                        • 13449

                                                                        #135
                                                                        This is a really shitty situation.

                                                                        It's a really onerous contract, but Bone prolly didn't even read it before signing it because he trusted Lens and crew so much. They go way way back.

                                                                        Then Jupiter gets sold and the new owners are really milking that shit for all it's worth.

                                                                        If the termination fee added up to the number of months left on the contract....that being the one year auto extension of said contract, then that would make sense.
                                                                        If they're quoting you 5K even, then it sounds like they just pulled that out of their ass....or now want to charge you back rent on the server that was "comped" since you're leaving.

                                                                        Either way, these seem like pretty shylock tactics. For a $9K bill, you'd think one of the higher-ups in the company would call you up to explain everything to you.
                                                                        sig too big

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                                                                        • Doctor Dre
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 51692

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Seriously dude you just need to chill out and talk to a lawyer.

                                                                          I doubt a such contract is even legal, this kind of product devaluates a lot... you can get a 30mbits server for 200 a month now.
                                                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                          I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                          • BAKO
                                                                            Don’t be a short Imp
                                                                            • Jul 2005
                                                                            • 18483

                                                                            #137
                                                                            That's some fucked up shit yo
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                                                                            • mmcfadden
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Oct 2008
                                                                              • 5099

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                              Can someone please give me SuzzyQ's icq???

                                                                              I never got your icq. I dont think you have my icq. Id like to hear what you have to say.
                                                                              keep me qued in on this one... I wanna know the outcome.

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                                                                              • boneprone
                                                                                Hall Of Fame
                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 34415

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                                                This is a really shitty situation.

                                                                                It's a really onerous contract, but Bone prolly didn't even read it before signing it because he trusted Lens and crew so much. They go way way back.

                                                                                Then Jupiter gets sold and the new owners are really milking that shit for all it's worth.

                                                                                If the termination fee added up to the number of months left on the contract....that being the one year auto extension of said contract, then that would make sense.
                                                                                If they're quoting you 5K even, then it sounds like they just pulled that out of their ass....or now want to charge you back rent on the server that was "comped" since you're leaving.

                                                                                Either way, these seem like pretty shylock tactics. For a $9K bill, you'd think one of the higher-ups in the company would call you up to explain everything to you.
                                                                                Well it looks like 5k is for the remainder of the year.
                                                                                The contract auto renews every october. I left in November.

                                                                                So for the year its 12months X $697.00 = About $9,000.00

                                                                                Thats how they get it.

                                                                                Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                                                Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                                                http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                                                Learn about it kids.

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                                                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                  • 13449

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  You definitely need to take that contract to your attorney and let him/her look it over.

                                                                                  Even if you signed it, sometimes shit in contracts are so onerous that it voids the whole thing.
                                                                                  Either way, a phone call from a competent attorney might grease the wheels for a settlement of less than $9000, especially if it saves them from having to go to court and then pursue you via a collections agency.
                                                                                  sig too big

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                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                    • 107089

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                                                    really... i would take care of any complaint asap... maybe cause I just wanna have a good rep
                                                                                    Yeah, it sounds like they really care about the BBB's stamp of approval. When was the last time you checked with the BBB before using a service?

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                                                                                    • boneprone
                                                                                      Hall Of Fame
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 34415

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                      Seriously dude you just need to chill out and talk to a lawyer.

                                                                                      I doubt a such contract is even legal, this kind of product devaluates a lot... you can get a 30mbits server for 200 a month now.
                                                                                      Im sure it is legal.

                                                                                      Its wrong, but its legal. Its a contract. I signed it and didnt read it. If I had I would have closed my server down 3 weeks earlier and would have saved $9,000.00

                                                                                      Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                                                      Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                                                      http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                                                      Learn about it kids.

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                                                                                      • mmcfadden
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Oct 2008
                                                                                        • 5099

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                                                        keep me qued in on this one... I wanna know the outcome.
                                                                                        not about suzy... this whole fuckin bullshit about oweing money... this is my biz too

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                                                                                        • mmcfadden
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Oct 2008
                                                                                          • 5099

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                          Yeah, it sounds like they really care about the BBB's stamp of approval. When was the last time you checked with the BBB before using a service?
                                                                                          every time

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                                                                                          • Ethersync
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Mar 2008
                                                                                            • 5289

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Here is the process:



                                                                                            Go to the link below for more information. You might even want to get some advice there bonepro.

                                                                                            http://debt-consolidation-credit-rep...play.php?f=180
                                                                                            Last edited by Ethersync; 12-19-2008, 09:34 PM.
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                                                                                            • baddog
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                              • 107089

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                                                              every time
                                                                                              Really? What host are you using that is listed with the BBB?

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                                                                                              • cess
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Sep 2006
                                                                                                • 2921

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by boneprone

                                                                                                I mean im being fucked here. I want it to be known.
                                                                                                There's another forum dedicated to webhosting, huge one. Most host out there have reps that post there. I've noticed most of the host out there will defend themselves if there's something bad posted about them there. Most webmasters probably know the forum I'm talking about. If you don't know give me your ICQ and I'll tell ya the url. You would be able to warn more people and might get more answers there...

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                                                                                                • spacedog
                                                                                                  Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                                  • 14149

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  not hosted there.. never was, but I called them yesterday to find out what the fuck they think they're doing hitting me multiple times from each ip in their subnet

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                                                                                                  • mmcfadden
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Oct 2008
                                                                                                    • 5099

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                    Really? What host are you using that is listed with the BBB?
                                                                                                    I have read every fuckin post on this thread... I have also delt w/ host companies keeping my site for ransom... and still paying for it. You can always open a case if BBB doesn't have it on file... this is fucking bullshit and when this thread ends I hope boneprone gets justice... meaning...

                                                                                                    NO more fucking contacts, emails, etc. to say he owes money. I've dealt with this bullshit and now will make it a priority that this shit happens no more.

                                                                                                    BTW...

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                                                                                                    • boneprone
                                                                                                      Hall Of Fame
                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                      • 34415

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      GFY is HOSTED at Jupiter Hosting.

                                                                                                      FYI.

                                                                                                      Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                                                                      Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                                                                      http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                                                                      Learn about it kids.

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