Who were the first TEN people in adult internet business?

fitty.


Was it me?

lol.

Although I was with Busty-Amateurs during that time, I was not a big boobie guy.

lol.

If you're cute, you're for me! Probably me. lol.

LC was one of the pioneers

relaxing on her boat somewhere last I heard!!!

Todd has been around since pre 'websites' and is the only one I'd put in first 10 for sure ... Serge wasn't one of the first as he came in as a broker for other existing companies ... Seth was probably one of the first but not top 10 ... ron was one of the first major programs ... scott started out in 95 ... the high society crew ... Peaches was around in 95 ... Rick from Ynot ... what about a first 100?! top 10 is impossible ... how do we define when the 'internet' started?!

We were around before anyone called it "internet" and "BBS" was the name of the game. When people would wait hours to days for stolen Playboy centerfold scans. You know. About the same time the last mastadons trudged across the tundra, mile after mile.

i still remember those days.

Traffic generators:

Persian Kitty
Richards-Realm
Adultbuffet

Paysites

ATK
WebsYoungestWomen (4wyw.com) (Gamma.com formally Maedae MultiMedia)
Us - TeenDreams.com (funnily enough)
Later - Karups

Programs

Xpics (who could forget!)
Click Rewards (http://www.justrawsex.com)
http://sexia.com
Tiarracorp

Webmaster Sites
jamesandvictoria.com (The Good bad and Ugly)

I have an outlook folder full of programs we joined in 96,97. Most of which no longer exist. We used to make a small fortune with them off the traffic of TeenDreams, but back then, getting paid was hit or miss. Gamma were always spot on though.

Yeah, that, and dedicated servers were $2500/month.

I sold traffic to Ron Levy in 1995. Does that count?

lol you dont think anyone else would have thought of it?

Rick Muenyong, Andy Edmunds, Robbie, Jeff Miller, Brad Shaw, et al???????

Dave
Relatively new

Al Gore is my guess

I think it will be impossible to even try to guess who was the first adult sites on the net, there is just way to much and so many very small people/sites who came and went pretty quick.
We started by running a 4 line BBS back in 1992 (running ProBoard), somewhere around 1995 we was importing usenet to the board using GiGo (garbage in/garbage out) and offering email accounts, we started landofvenus in early summer 1997, but there was so much you never hear about any more like Cu-SeeMe, Iphone and some other video sites, jennicam, lots of people pulling child porn off usenet and making little free sites, and pulling all kinds of crap off usenet and makeing sites. There was tons of small no name webcam sites that just used ispy, which now days would not be called a site but back then was pretty cool.

cu-seeme was great for getting new members, as was usenet..not any more tho. netscape was the only browser for awhile, it was also the only one that worked with streaming video (jpeg push)... But I am pretty sure that the first sites are going to be small no name ones that no one remembers, they were probably free and voyeur or social type sites and making a book or anything else and naming anyone as the first would be an injustice to those.

I guessing he would not have been one of the initial pioneers in online adult but wouldn`t Marc De deserve massive praise what with the incredible success of ARS in the late `90s?

Andrew Conru

This doesn't start until 1997, but there should be mention of a lot of old timers in Andy's newsletters.
http://trix.sexswap.com/

Lee Noga!

Fight the memory lane!

The adult INTERNET was very useless before the PROCESSORS came along - and we all know who were the first there

PS. Oh, and yeah, many of them are not here anymore but the ones with smart and good business ethics are

I started shooting in 2000 for atk, BTW I have a shoot for when you hit LA I think. porn.com has asked me several times to shoot you. hit me with an email when you're here and I'll check on the shoot for ya.. -bmb

Jimmy Wales, I was gonna say the same thing LOL.....Bomis was the bomb!!! I have like 10 Bomis tshirts around, those should be auctioned off for millions now! Since he went on to startup Wikipedia!

I remember all the adult verification sites like AdultCheck.
Working in notepad and O'Reilly Website, later Hot Metal Pro.
Ah, those were the days.

so that was your voice? lol

Actually I did record several preambles both adult and non-adult ;) Nothing that was even slightly pornographic though. I refused and since we were in the same office building as a broadcasting school, we had lots of talent for really cheap when they needed porn preambles made.

When I worked directly with the audiotext company all our girls were in Canada because the laws about what they could and could not say were a lot stricter in the US. This was back in 92-94ish.

Igor from WatchCams / VoyeurWeb was around also.... Possibly the SexHound folks.

RonL had one of the first live girl cams that I know of. The guy I was working for set up a sofa and a camera in the Canadian office (which was in a freaking strip mall) and IIRC, they used 900/809/etc numbers for the customers to dial in. It was so hideously jumpy due to the low baud rates that no one wanted to watch it. This was 93-94.

I also remember back in the days when DMR DIDN'T do any billing. ;)

DMR and Sypro were my first 2 processors. Oops.

Then I found Adult Check and figured "I won't get fucked over here". Oops again.

That's roughly our time line also.

We ran KastleArchives as a BBS until the mid-90s (2 nodes running Renegade) - but we were also salting several usenet groups with our earliest content.

And yep, I still remember getting the earliest copy of Netscape from my first dialup IP provider in the late 90s...came on three 3.5 floppies We were still manually UUencoding and decoding the binaries to/from usenet.

But we didn't start actually making money on the web until we transitioned to a paysite format in 2000.

Al Hadhazy

Pornesis Chpt1 Verse 1

In the beggining there was Ron , but he was without shape and void.

He did see Al Hadzy and in General he saw that it was good.And Ron was fantasyman and fantasyman was Ron.

And yea there did come out of the east , a man threatening to insert broomsticks in asses and Ron did look upon him and called him Serge.

And verily they did piss.

And the piss begat Scottpb and scott begat.............



Sexodudus Chapt 4 Verse 3

And yea...mmmm yea...sweet sweet yea....lines and lines of it , and piles and piles of it....but I digress...

;-))

Nick is such a badass.

Glad he mentioned Dean Shannon.

I started in I think it was 98. I didnt follow through with it, so Im a no one.

i know this really cool guy that started selling content he pulled off the web in the late
80's or early 90's in his family's garage and charging about $10/month for his membership. so this dude calls himself kevin to most but don to some of us. he runs a fairly decent sized company that has had some success since those early days. what's that company again.........oh yeah, he named it "TopBucks".

My wife ( Wet Wifey ) had her first paysite up in 1996. Different domain now tho.

Who gives a damn.

I wanna be one of the last ten people standing when the dust settles from 2009.

aint that the truth

Damn, I can't imagine having been in this biz in the 90's. The Internet is such a baby though, all of us here are just in the beginning of this 12 or 13 year "old" business.

I wasn't there but it was our generation's gold rush

Sure there would be. Just woulda been 3 different guys. Who might or might not have done it any differently.

Bump cos I'm a history buff

hahaha, good one nick

From http://www.businessofporn.com/wiki/i...istory_Of_Porn

1st century BC

Ovid's authors The Art of Love
Karma Sutra was created


2-3 century BC

Sodom and Gomorrah the cities of sin are reportedly destroyed


1387

Geoffrey Chaucer authors The Canterbury Tales


1440

Gutenberg Press Invented


1675

Earliest example of written pornography in the English language, John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester's Sodom


1840

Burlesque shows came into existance


1850

Can-Can dance first performed


1877

Thomas Edison invented the phonograph


1884

Eadweard Muybridge motion studies featuring naked men and women


1889

Moulin Rouge opened its doors


1891

Thomas Edison invented the motion picture camera


1896

The May Irwin Kiss (Edison kinetoscope)
- First kiss on film denounced as shocking and pornographic.
-Louise Willy strips in the French film LeBain


1908

First known porn movie -
A L'Ecu d'Or ou la bonne auberge - made in France in 1908; the plot depicts a weary soldier who has a tryst with an inn's servant girl.


1910

Another very early porn movie
- Am Abend - made in Germany.
...a ten-minute film which begins with a woman masturbating alone in her bedroom, and progresses to scenes of her with a man.


1914

Hypocrites featured full female nudity


1915

A Free Ride, earliest known American stag film with explicit sex scenes


1925

Josephine Baker becomes a hit in Paris


1928

Dr. Ruth was born


1930

Hollywood established the Hays Code to set moral standards on mainstream films


1932

Strip clubs evolve out of Burlesque shows


1934

Strict enforcement of the Hays code began


1951

Smart Alec a stag film becomes an underground hit


1953

Hugh Hefner starts Playboy


1960

The first Playboy Club opens in Chicago


1964

Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart says he can't define hardcore porn - "I know it when I see it."


1965

Bob Guccione starts Penthouse


1968

Al Goldstein starts Screw Magazine


1969

First mainstream movie to represent the swinger lifestyle - Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice, Directed by Paul Mazursky


1970

Phil Harvey starts Adam & Eve
Sylvester Stallone stars in a porn film The Party at Kitty and Stud's
Notable Porn Movies - Cycle Studs - Le Salon (Gay)
Penthouse shows pubic hair for the first time


1971

First condom to appear in a movie - Carnal Knowledge, Directed by Mike Nichols
Notable Porn Movies - The Boys in the Sand - Wakefield Poole (Gay)


1972

Notable Porn Movies - Fritz the Cat - Ralph Bakshi (Anime)
Adult theaters become a common site in urban America
Woody Allen releases the movie Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask
Notable Porn Movies - Deep Throat - Gerard Damiano (Straight)
Notable Porn Movies - Behind the Green Door - The Mitchell Brothers (Straight)


1974

Larry Flynt starts Hustler.


1975

Betamax introduced
First condom commercial airs on television


1976

VHS introduced


1977

Deep Throat is released on home video


1978

Larry Flynt is shot in an assassination attempt that left him paralyzed from the waist down.
Ron Jeremy starts his career by appearing in Playgirl
Ward Christensen created the CBBS Bulletin Board System along with the Xmodem protocol
Ascii art porn started being traded on BBS sites


1981

HIV/AIDS become a hot topic
Audiotext industry gets popular and phone sex is the biggest seller


1982

Playboy TV is launched


1983

Tom Jennings created the Fidonet BBS system
Name server developed at University of Wisconsin


1984

Penthouse publishes pictures of Vanessa Williams naked. She resigns her Miss America crown.
Domain Name Systems (DNS) introduced


1985

Symbolics.com is the first registered domain in history
Earliest domains to be registered - cmu.edu, purdue.edu, rice.edu, berkeley.edu, ucla.edu, rutgers.edu, bbn.com, mit.edu, think.com, css.gov, mitre.org


1986

US Attorney General Edwin Meese published 1,960 page report investigating porn at the order of President Ronald Reagan.
Traci Lords is discovered to be underage


1987

Pornstar Cicciolina elected to the Italian parliament
Spice TV is launched by Spice Entertainment


1988

Title 18 United States Code Section 2257 was enacted


1990

First commercial provider of Internet dial-up access -world.std.com


1991

The last Playboy Club closed in Manila
Pixis Interactive creates first virtual interactive porn game called Virtual Vixens.


1992

Term "Surfing the Internet" is first heard


1993

GonZo.com is registered.
John Bobbit's wife Lorena cuts his penis off. He later stars in porn video.
World Wide Web goes live.
Don't Ask Don't Tell introduced by President Bill Clinton.


1994

SexToyFun.Com an early sex toy store was opened
Bianca.com opens
Sex.com was registered by Gary Kremen
Jenna Jameson does her first adult film.
See Jenna for FREE


1995

Ricks Cabaret begins trading on Nasdaq: RICK
Gamelink.com opens
First confirmed blowjob in the White House
PersianKitty.com registered by Lewis DePayne
DMR started processing
Stockroom.com opens
Sex.com was stolen by Stephen Cohen
Internet goldrush begins


1996

XXXcounter was launched by Cybererotica
iGallery.com opens
iBill started processing
Cotac.com opens
Hitbox counter was launched by WebSideStory
AdultCheck.com opens
Pythonvideo.com opens
Paycom started processing
YnotNetwork.com opens
Naughty.com opens
Cybererotica.com opens
CarolCox.com opens
MaxCash.com opens
Domain name tv.com sold for $15,000
Epoch started processing
xPics.com opens


1997

Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee sex tape comes out
Sexplosion.com opens
ABC-web/Robin Nixon opens, launches first pop-up consoles
Andy Dunn's Sex Swap tips and trix published as online publication
DVD introduced
Domain name business.com sold for $150,000
Boogie Nights directed by Paul Thomas Anderson is nominated for three Academy Awards
CWIE/CCBill started processing
Starnet/Sex Inc started broadcasting live cams from Orange No 5 in Vancouver.
Jennicam.org opens
Whitehouse.com owned by Dan Parisi becomes a porn site
Timon creates Exit Consoles
Porncity.net opens


1998

iFriends.com opens
Condom Chronicles introduced as an early industry online publication
FTC targets xPics for defrauding customers.
Sextracker.com counter launched
Wasteland.com opens
Tommys-bookmarks.com opens
CondomProject.com, later to become Netpond.com opens
AdultFriendFinder.com opens
Python/Apollo started broadcasting live cam shows
69Spot.com, later to become xBiz.com opens
TheHun.net opens
Link-O-Rama.com opens
VoyeurDorm.com opens
Circle Jerk sites become popular
Al Goldstein installs Fuck You Finger in his backyard in Florida.
Literotica.com opens
ABC-web/Robin Nixon launches Eureka, first daily adult newsletter
Viagra introduced
PornNo.com opens
Porntrack.com counter launched
Playboy purchased Spice for $127 million 1999
TopBucks.com opens


1999

Hitbox counter stops doing business with adult sites
Domain name business.com sold for $7,500,000
SicCash.com opens
Playboy sells Hot Network to Vivid Video for $10.5 million
PlatinumBucks.com opens
AdultRevenueService.com opens
Dragon King created the first TGP2 site
CashCount.com a paying counter by Cybererotica was introduced
Napster was created by Shawn Fanning


2000

AOL goes after CEN for sending bulk mail
AEBN launched first VOD site
Al Gore claims to have invented the internet
Visa and Mastercard introduce tougher regulations and larger fines for chargebacks
DMR/Web800 dies
Jettis started processing
Sex.com was given back to Gary Kremen after a legal fight.
WEG offers free signup program
American Express stops accepting porn transactions
FreeSiteNetwork.com opens
FTC targets MaxCash/RJB Telcom over billing practices
FTC targets Crescent Publishing for defrauding customers


2001

Yahoo removes porn banners from search engine
Playboy buys Hot Network back along with two other channels, HotZone, and Vivid for $70 million.
BitTorrent was created by Bram Cohen


2003

Paypal stops processing adult transactions
Globill stops processing
CashCount.com program closed by Cybererotica
Penthouse files bankruptcy


2004

Adult film industry temporarily ceased production due to HIV
Paris Hilton sex tape comes out


2005

Video iPod introduced
Sex.com thief Stephen Cohen arrested
Myspace.com sells for $580 million
The Digital Playground film Pirates had a budget that topped $1 million


2006

Google resist court order for porn search results
Bishop starts THIS timeline on an adult industry forum
Bishop removes THIS timeline from an adult industry forum and approves it's posting on BusinessOfPorn.com
KSEXradio.com is sold to Ultimate Entertainment Group & Re-Launched
Sex.com sold for a reported $12,000,000
xPeeps was launched
PornoTube.com was launched
Playboy Acquires Club Jenna, Inc., Opens First Club in 20 Years
Adult FriendFinder discovered to use questionable Zango marketing campaigns.
Eddie Van Halen Collaborates with Michael Ninn on Sacred Sin.
Penthouse Acquires Danni dot com Properties, JKP Assets
World Modeling Closes

Al gore didnt say he invented the net, he did help get the funding the helped create the net.

OH!! yea...you like the small boobies!! It was our ole' boy Jeff!!!

A key distinction here is are we talking about the internet porn or the first
porn web site. The internet was created 1973, the web in 1990 - seventeen
years later.

I started in late 1996 or early 1997 and many of the people suggested as
firsts weren't around then, though there was an established industry. iBill
had started in 1996, but CCBill wouldn't be until 1998. As someone else
mentioned these processors were key. Before them, very adult sites
were able to get merchant accounts to process payments. Laith launched
AdultCheck in 1996, which is how most of us got paid back in the day.
I would estimate there were about 5,000 people active in the business by
early 1997.

Cool....myself or 3xtom will hit ya up!!!

I got in the biz in 96 for Porn
I would say seth was the first in the US then many followed right after

Sizzle.com was the first website from canada then clublove US

Yeah, weren't those the good old days. I was GSM of a company that lost a $10 million judgement to Playboy for putting those scans on CD-ROM in 1992 (the judgement finalized in 1995). Lee Noga (zmaster) had her own similar problems with Playboy and her then company "Lion's Den", that's when she started doing licensed content. I followed the same path about a year later. Lived on Ynot Bob's chat board back in the later 90's.

Those were the good 'ole days. There were no set precedents for the adult shows and they got so crazy a good many spent some quality time with Vegas Metro.

In comparison, Internext feels like a Girl Scouts convention.

ahhh... memories... btw, if anyone has Lee's number please shoot me an icq, I lost track of her around 2000. It would be good to touch base with her again.

Why nobody mentioned dialers?

1993

GonZo.com is registered.
John Bobbit's wife Lorena cuts his penis off. He later stars in porn video.
World Wide Web goes live.
Don't Ask Don't Tell introduced by President Bill Clinton.
Damn i remember that cutting penis like it was yesterday.And i had only 8 years then.

I think I remember some of those cdrom suits...

Before the net we were pretty big in adult cd-rom sales, distributing, etc

Some nice margins back then - damm we pushed so many units

Lee's a great person - that's how we met in like 93-95 or so - sold tons of her busty babe series - very popular. Who were you with?

do you remember Goosebump?

Mr Wilson
Empty
Bangin

Globill... Poor poor Globill.

Sounds about right, I remember paying $70 for domains in 1999 - 2001 or so.