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  • JD
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2003
    • 22651

    #51
    50 credit cards

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    • Iron Fist
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2006
      • 23400

      #52
      This thread has to be one of the best threads for biz I have ever seen... not a line of bullshit the whole way from beginning... what the hell is going on here!

      Grats on your first year
      i like waffles

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      • cwd
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2006
        • 1955

        #53
        So, the quick answer would be no then?

        It's not possible to transfert the billing data unless both compagnies ( the old and the new billing compagny) are willing to work together to get it done?

        Thanks

        Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
        Well, this is actually a very good question.

        All processors are since 2006 required following the PCI DSS requirements which make it strictly forbidden to transfer billing data to a non-PCI entity, such as the merchant. But it is allowed to send billing data to another PCI entity if encrypted.

        The problem here is that the process between the processors needs to be seamless, and if it was, it would be very easy to change processor. And that is of course not in every processors best interest.

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        • Zombaio_Tomas
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2008
          • 382

          #54
          Originally posted by cwd
          So, the quick answer would be no then?

          It's not possible to transfert the billing data unless both compagnies ( the old and the new billing compagny) are willing to work together to get it done?

          Thanks

          That is correct, it is possible technical but I doubt you will see that happend if they are not merged. But we are open for discussion if any other billing company want to setup a seamless transfer solution.

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          • Zombaio_Tomas
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2008
            • 382

            #55
            Originally posted by sharphead
            ...
            Grats on your first year
            Thank you Sharphead!

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            • Ditosta
              Confirmed User
              • May 2006
              • 2107

              #56
              Looking good~4.9%
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              • genoveze
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2003
                • 455

                #57
                any Big players that you process for? the fees are good, but we need examples of big players that worked with you since the begining and had no problems, because if we start processing with you yeah we migh save a few percentages but that's not worth it if problems appear
                Dorian

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                • Zombaio_Tomas
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 382

                  #58
                  Originally posted by genoveze
                  any Big players that you process for? the fees are good, but we need examples of big players that worked with you since the begining and had no problems, because if we start processing with you yeah we migh save a few percentages but that's not worth it if problems appear
                  Hello genoveze. Please see page 1 for more information about that.

                  a few percentages ;)

                  I will also contact a few that has used us from the beginning and see if we can get a comment from them.

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                  • MaDalton
                    I am Amazing Content!
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 39861

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
                    No, we are unfortunatley not. Just adult online content membership sites / webcam sites / credit purchase sites (prepaid).
                    hmm... too bad
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                    • Zombaio_Tomas
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 382

                      #60
                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                      hmm... too bad
                      Hit me up on ICQ, I might have another solution for you depending on your volume.

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                      • BSleazy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 6721

                        #61
                        This sounds great. I mine as well start a paysite now.
                        icq 156131086

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                        • count of monte cristo
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 473

                          #62
                          posted this thread http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=876172

                          but ill repost the question here:

                          Originally posted by count of monte cristo
                          i dont think there have been any processors that have acccepted US adult accounts and are still in biz. globill, pswbilling, egs pay, probilling are examples where people trusted them and lost a lot of $$$

                          so 2 questions, do you accept US customers and what us bank are you using that can take these while others cant without the $750 fee.

                          want to make sure you are charging 4.9% and not 100% after 4 months
                          premier payment sending company

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                          • Zombaio_Tomas
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 382

                            #63
                            I have had several ppl messing me on ICQ about our policy to tube sites. So I post our stands here as well:

                            We do not accept ANY site, tube or not that are violating copyrights. If we find videos or pics that are watermarked with a domain name / site name that is not under the same merchant account we will suspend the billing services. (previews or clips are mostly ok)

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                            • genoveze
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 455

                              #64
                              I have read the entire thread, including page 1, but those are just a few names, and the comment you got from one of them , was using you for backup, why backup if the fees are better, I am not trying to be negative here
                              Dorian

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                              • genoveze
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 455

                                #65
                                how much did you pay for this GFY advertising campaign?
                                roughly
                                Dorian

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                                • Zombaio_Tomas
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2008
                                  • 382

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by genoveze
                                  ...why backup if the fees are better, I am not trying to be negative here
                                  I think that is a good way to start with a new billing partner. I everything works fine after some time then the cascade can be changed.

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                                  • Zombaio_Tomas
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2008
                                    • 382

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by genoveze
                                    how much did you pay for this GFY advertising campaign?
                                    roughly
                                    This year roughly $60.000 I think, only on GFY.... Our total advertising budget this year was 200.000

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                                    • NaughtyRob
                                      Two fresh affiliate progs
                                      • Nov 2004
                                      • 29602

                                      #68
                                      You are very open but just a note, you don't need to tell us EVERYTHING, like how much you spend on advertising. Its none of our business.
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                                      • Ditosta
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2006
                                        • 2107

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
                                        This year roughly $60.000 I think, only on GFY.... Our total advertising budget this year was 200.000
                                        I can't believe you answered this! I guess you are really trying to be transparent
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                                        • Zombaio_Tomas
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2008
                                          • 382

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Ditosta
                                          I can't believe you answered this! I guess you are really trying to be transparent
                                          We have to in our position.

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                                          • ZenOne
                                            Registered User
                                            • May 2008
                                            • 67

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
                                            We have to in our position.

                                            Wish you good luck on your second year.

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                                            • tranza
                                              ICQ: 197-556-237
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 57559

                                              #72
                                              Looks very nice...

                                              I'm just a newbie.

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                                              • alias
                                                aliasx
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 19010

                                                #73
                                                Awesome info, Zombaio_Tomas!
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                                                • The Duck
                                                  Adult Content Provider
                                                  • May 2005
                                                  • 18243

                                                  #74
                                                  Do you accept adult content stores selling nontangible digital products?
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                                                  • ladida
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                    • 2179

                                                    #75
                                                    Seems like you're doing alot better job then the previous guys
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                                                    • Zombaio_Tomas
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2008
                                                      • 382

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by kandah
                                                      Do you accept adult content stores selling nontangible digital products?
                                                      No, we are unfortunatley not. Just adult online content membership sites / webcam sites / credit purchase sites (prepaid).

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                                                      • SordidMedia
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Oct 2008
                                                        • 283

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
                                                        This year roughly $60.000 I think, only on GFY.... Our total advertising budget this year was 200.000
                                                        So many providers would not have answered such a question. Massive thumbs-up for being so open and direct.

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                                                        • Biggy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 1595

                                                          #78
                                                          Good to see a new company come in the game with a super-competitive rate and mix things up. Truth is, I think people will find it shocking what the base rates are at some of these banks, obviously it doesn't include the critical add-on features like customer support - but there are alternatives out there, and with those priced in, its still much lower than start-off rates at many of the existing 3rd parties.

                                                          I've always found it interesting that theres only 2 or 3 market players, and they all start their rates at 15%.

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                                                          • globofun
                                                            Buk Lau
                                                            • Aug 2005
                                                            • 2651

                                                            #79
                                                            Can I have two different program under one account?

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                                                            • Tjeezers
                                                              Webmaster
                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                              • 16603

                                                              #80
                                                              good thread, reads away like ice in my mouth.
                                                              I keep this in eye for a new project I wish to start

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                                                              • pornask
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                • 6518

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Biggy
                                                                Truth is, I think people will find it shocking what the base rates are at some of these banks, obviously it doesn't include the critical add-on features like customer support - but there are alternatives out there, and with those priced in, its still much lower than start-off rates at many of the existing 3rd parties.
                                                                Are you saying Zombaio doesn't offer customer support?

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                                                                • NinjaSteve
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 11089

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by pornask
                                                                  Are you saying Zombaio doesn't offer customer support?
                                                                  I think he's saying that banks can directly offer really low rates but the low bank rates usually don't come with extra things like customer support which the 3rd party companies offer (Zombaio, CCBill, Paycom, etc).

                                                                  The starting 15% processing fees from the major players are pretty high.
                                                                  Last edited by NinjaSteve; 12-17-2008, 10:31 PM.
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                                                                  • DamageX
                                                                    Marketing & Strategy
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 14293

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by NinjaSteve
                                                                    I think he's saying that banks can directly offer really low rates but the low bank rates usually don't come with extra things like customer support which the 3rd party companies offer (Zombaio, CCBill, Paycom, etc).

                                                                    The starting 15% processing fees from the major players are pretty high.
                                                                    The funny thing is that it takes a new player to appear in the market, in order for people to realize that.
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                                                                    • NickDavis
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                                      • 269

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                      The funny thing is that it takes a new player to appear in the market, in order for people to realize that.
                                                                      No kidding hey! 15% is excessive... 10% with a 5% reserve wouldnt be so bad, but 15% with a 5% reserve is rough... especially if youre paying affiliates.

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                                                                      • Snake Doctor
                                                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                        • 13449

                                                                        #85
                                                                        I'm waiting for KimmyKim on this one.

                                                                        She'll ask the questions none of us would think to ask.
                                                                        sig too big

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                                                                        • bellybuttonlint
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2006
                                                                          • 183

                                                                          #86
                                                                          huh? wtf?

                                                                          doesnt this seem like a well scripted dance of questions and answers ?

                                                                          2 things come to mind;

                                                                          1. if it sounds too good to be true, then its bullshit
                                                                          2. if it aint broke, dont fix it.

                                                                          with all due respect to your offer, it smells fishy.

                                                                          its becoming a standard that just about every year around this time, webmasters and affiliates get fucked.....and im tired of getting fucked without getting kissed....and my fucking asshole is already stretched out that it constantly leaks.

                                                                          i rather pay a few extra bucks to ccbill for a better piece of mind.

                                                                          ccbill, im stayin!
                                                                          Zombala, KEEP THE CHANGE YA FILTHY ANIMAL....and a happy newyear!
                                                                          good luck!

                                                                          ccbill

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                                                                          • KillerK
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • May 2008
                                                                            • 3406

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by NickDavis
                                                                            No kidding hey! 15% is excessive... 10% with a 5% reserve wouldnt be so bad, but 15% with a 5% reserve is rough... especially if youre paying affiliates.
                                                                            why do you think the guy has a damn jet

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                                                                            • Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2008
                                                                              • 382

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by globofun
                                                                              Can I have two different program under one account?

                                                                              Looking good!
                                                                              Yes, you can add several programs to one account.

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                                                                              • SeniorX
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2005
                                                                                • 302

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Looks like a great deal. The only problem I see is that there's no support on Sunday in the website chat. Pimpin' is 24/7, if you want to be serious business for adult, You need to be accessible 7 days a week by web chat, icq, msn, skype, aim, e-mail, etc... this mon-fri work-hours shows a mainstream mentallity. But... I'll give Zombaio a chance, definitely looks better than ccbill and epoch! Paying 15% + reserve to a processor is just bad business when there's a better alternative!

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                                                                                • Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2008
                                                                                  • 382

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by NickDavis
                                                                                  No kidding hey! 15% is excessive... 10% with a 5% reserve wouldnt be so bad, but 15% with a 5% reserve is rough... especially if youre paying affiliates.
                                                                                  Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                  The funny thing is that it takes a new player to appear in the market, in order for people to realize that.
                                                                                  It?s actually not very strange. There have been some companies out there that has tried to compete with the bigger players in this industry but failed due to lack of credibility. I don?t think all of them were scammers but they probably not played by the HR IPSP rules and was probably sending the transactions un-coded which were fatal for them. And that?s why the prices can still be keept at this crazy level.

                                                                                  For you ppl that are saying this looks too good to be true; take a look at all other industries, there is no industry that pays over 5% for a high risk transaction. As many of you know we are also processing gaming transactions which is really high risk, but at rates below 3%.

                                                                                  With all respect for CCBill and Epoch , if you are happy with them, stay with them but if you are a business man/woman, grab your calculator?

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                                                                                  • cwd
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                                    • 1955

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                                    As many of you know we are also processing gaming transactions which is really high risk, but at rates below 3%.
                                                                                    On your rates page (https://www.zombaio.com/rates.asp), we can read: "Please note that our service is for adult entertainment content sites only!".

                                                                                    Zombaio is processing under another name for the gaming industry?

                                                                                    Thanks

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                                                                                    • Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2008
                                                                                      • 382

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by cwd
                                                                                      On your rates page (https://www.zombaio.com/rates.asp), we can read: "Please note that our service is for adult entertainment content sites only!".

                                                                                      Zombaio is processing under another name for the gaming industry?

                                                                                      Thanks
                                                                                      Yes, of course. We are backend processors with ITOT, iocharge.com among others... but with separate staff. Lets keep this thread focused on Adult billing and Zombaio and if you guys need more info abut gaming, hit me up on ICQ...

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                                                                                      • DanSolo
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Apr 2006
                                                                                        • 7

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Hi to all,

                                                                                        I migrated over from CCBill to Zombaio over a year ago (recurring membership sites and an affiliate program).

                                                                                        I've been in the web business for 13 years now and in the adult portion for about 4 years. CC processing has always been touchy in the adult part, especially for us Canadians.

                                                                                        CCBill was/is good and reliable, they are however not evolving, nor have they been for a long time (well, a year ago they wern't) ... Zombaio on the other hand is dynamic in their approach; they bring a fresh and well appreciated attitude to the industry. I decided to take a chance with them a year ago. A good choice it turned out to be! I am satisfied at all levels with their services; rates, web interface/tools and customer support.

                                                                                        I have nothing negative to say about them and I considered myself completely unbiased here.

                                                                                        Feel free to ask me questions if you want, it will be my pleasure to share this experience with you all.

                                                                                        DanSolo
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                                                                                        • cherrylula
                                                                                          lol
                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                          • 15969

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          nice! looking good!

                                                                                          congrats on new biz.

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                                                                                          • Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Nov 2008
                                                                                            • 382

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by DanSolo
                                                                                            ...Zombaio on the other hand is dynamic in their approach; they bring a fresh and well appreciated attitude to the industry. I decided to take a chance with them a year ago. A good choice it turned out to be! I am satisfied at all levels with their services; rates, web interface/tools and customer support.
                                                                                            Thank you very much DanSolo!

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                                                                                            • Sid70
                                                                                              Downshifter
                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                              • 16413

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              what made you have the name like Zombaio?
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                                                                                              • eroticsexxx
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                • 3133

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                nice stuff

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                                                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 16015

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                                                                  I'm waiting for KimmyKim on this one.

                                                                                                  She'll ask the questions none of us would think to ask.
                                                                                                  Same list as before and always. And the answers don't add up so far.

                                                                                                  1. Citibank?
                                                                                                  2. First Data US?
                                                                                                  Maybe you sent a wire through one of them, but processing? Anyone that wants to know how First Data feels about adult these days should look at the old iBill history.

                                                                                                  2. No registration fees? If you're paying these and charging 4.9%, you're certainly not going to make the money up on volume. Just my .02, it takes a long time to make $750 profit from a small account, especially with the situation that's occurring with cross sales.

                                                                                                  3. Canadians. I love me some Canadians, for sure, but the rules are still the rules. Either get a US company, get an EU company, or use a Canadian bank for processing. You cannot process transactions outside the region where they are authorized, and the principal signatory on the account must be a resident of that country. Same applies to EU, US, Latin America and Mars.

                                                                                                  4. You are also processing for gaming?

                                                                                                  I'm not picking on you here, Tomas, I just can't seem to get my head around your claims and sort out how they could actually work in a compliant manner.

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                                                                                                  • Bex
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                                    • 2382

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    We use Executive Stats for our affiliate software. Would it be possible to integrate you into this system, or do you strictly work with NATS?


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                                                                                                    • Zombaio_Tomas
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Nov 2008
                                                                                                      • 382

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                      I'm not picking on you here, Tomas, I just can't seem to get my head around your claims and sort out how they could actually work in a compliant manner.
                                                                                                      With all respect Kimmy, please hit me up on ICQ then we can have a discussion there, after you can post your thoughts here. Of course we are compliant in all manners!

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