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  • iMind
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    • Nov 2007
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    #151
    Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/90796.php
    http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...04282/abstract
    Thanks for the info.

    I don't know if you read either, I'd suspect not.. I did,I also suspect you read none of the links I posted, or you'd still be reading;) and funny how reading both your links took me all of 3 minutes, but you could go over the studies for days and WEEKS about the negative side effects, lack of proof that it's preventing decay etc etc..

    but the those both say " these studies found that cavities were down in fluoridated areas" no PDF's, no page after page of details, tests and specs of those tests, no graphs, no graphics, no charts.

    just " these scientists found out it's good "
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      • pocketkangaroo
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        • Jan 2005
        • 8452
        #152
        Originally posted by iMind
        Thanks for the info.

        I don't know if you read either, I'd suspect not.. I did, and funny how reading both took me all of 3 minutes, but you could go over the studies for days and WEEKS about the negative side effects, lack of proof that it's preventing decay etc etc..

        but the those both say " these studies found that cavities were down in fluoridated areas" no PDF's, no page after page of details, tests and specs of those tests, no graphs, no graphics, no charts.

        just " these scientists found out it's good "
        So since fluoride has no benefits whatsoever, please tell us why they insist on leaving it in our water. What possible benefit do people have to continue to use it?

        Why would the American Dental Association, American Medical Association, CDC, and WHO all be plotting to poison us?

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          • onwebcam
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            • Oct 2005
            • 27689
            #153
            Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
            And there are tons of studies that show the benefits of fluoride.

            http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/90796.php
            http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...04282/abstract

            I'm not in this to argue whether fluoride is good or bad. I do know it's been used in the country since 1945 and I don't see some massive epidemic of fluoride related deaths sweeping the nation. I'm simply pointing out how absurd it is to believe that there is no scientific studies that show there is a benefit to it. That someone woke up one day and said we should put fluoride in our waters and everyone in the world decided to agree for the next 60 years without giving it a second thought.
            We've had the Federal Reserve System for nearly 100 years and most people still don't want to accept it to be the root of our problems right now either. Even though history has shown thousands of years before that central banking doesn't work. People (like me) are just now "waking up" to this fact.

            Your 1945 figure works quite well with the fact that the war with the Nazi's began in 1941 which gave the scientists a few years to come on over and set up shop here in the US. And considering the fact that Prescott Bush and companies funded the Nazi party it's not so hard to believe.
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              • iMind
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                • Nov 2007
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                #154
                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                So since fluoride has no benefits whatsoever, please tell us why they insist on leaving it in our water. What possible benefit do people have to continue to use it?

                Why would the American Dental Association, American Medical Association, CDC, and WHO all be plotting to poison us?
                $$

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                  • pocketkangaroo
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                    • Jan 2005
                    • 8452
                    #155
                    Originally posted by iMind
                    $$
                    How does having fluoride in the water system make them money? Do they own major stock in fluoride companies or something?

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                      • Sly
                        Let's do some business!
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 31379
                        #156
                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                        How does having fluoride in the water system make them money? Do they own major stock in fluoride companies or something?
                        Lobbyists... plus now that the system is in place, it would take a lot to reverse it.

                        Just saying...
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                          • pocketkangaroo
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                            #157
                            Originally posted by onwebcam
                            We've had the Federal Reserve System for nearly 100 years and most people still don't want to accept it to be the root of our problems right now either. Even though history has shown thousands of years before that central banking doesn't work. People (like me) are just now "waking up" to this fact.

                            Your 1945 figure works quite well with the fact that the war with the Nazi's began in 1941 which gave the scientists a few years to come on over and set up shop here in the US. And considering the fact that Prescott Bush and companies funded the Nazi party it's not so hard to believe.
                            So the Nazis infiltrated all these health organizations and talked them into supporting fluoride so that they could slowly poison us? Did they also cover up all the fluoride related deaths we never see or hear about? Hitler was a bloody genius to have this much foresight. The holocaust was just a diversion toward his real plans of water fluoridation.

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                              • Sly
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                                • Sep 2004
                                • 31379
                                #158
                                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                So the Nazis infiltrated all these health organizations and talked them into supporting fluoride so that they could slowly poison us? Did they also cover up all the fluoride related deaths we never see or hear about? Hitler was a bloody genius to have this much foresight. The holocaust was just a diversion toward his real plans of water fluoridation.
                                When all else fails, blame the Nazis.
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                                  • pocketkangaroo
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                                    #159
                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                    Lobbyists... plus now that the system is in place, it would take a lot to reverse it.

                                    Just saying...
                                    Lobbyists for the fluoride industry? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are people who make money from this. But I'm unaware that there is a lobbying force so strong that they could buy up the AMA, ADA, WHO, and CDC without anyone knowing who they are.

                                    I know there has been debate on fluoride, but I have always assumed that there is little harm in having it in our water. I've never heard anything this industry being so lucrative that people are willing to kill us to keep it alive.
                                    Last edited by pocketkangaroo; 12-14-2008, 06:28 PM.

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                                      • onwebcam
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                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 27689
                                        #160
                                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                        So the Nazis infiltrated all these health organizations and talked them into supporting fluoride so that they could slowly poison us? Did they also cover up all the fluoride related deaths we never see or hear about? Hitler was a bloody genius to have this much foresight. The holocaust was just a diversion toward his real plans of water fluoridation.
                                        It's not about killing you. It's to make you "docile."

                                        "Fluoride used by Nazis to sterilize inmates and make them docile. Fluoride a key dumbing down ingredient of Prozac and Sarin nerve gas"

                                        http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm

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                                          • pocketkangaroo
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                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by onwebcam
                                            It's not about killing you. It's to make you "docile."

                                            "Fluoride used by Nazis to sterilize inmates and make them docile. Fluoride a key dumbing down ingredient of Prozac and Sarin nerve gas"

                                            http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm

                                            So since his plan to infiltrate our country and spread fluoride to us, the United States has become the world's only superpower, seen a steady increase in IQ from generation to generation, and created scientific technology that makes the 1940's look like the stone age. His plan seems to have not been a success.

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                                              • iMind
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                                                • Nov 2007
                                                • 937
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                So since his plan to infiltrate our country and spread fluoride to us, the United States has become the world's only superpower, seen a steady increase in IQ from generation to generation, and created scientific technology that makes the 1940's look like the stone age. His plan seems to have not been a success.
                                                Well, actually infertility is increasing in HUGE numbers ( find the charts yourself, I've spoonfed you enough ) and so are mental and neurological disorders .. see brackets above..

                                                both of which mean incredible amounts of money for the drug industries..
                                                Not to mention the HUGE amount of coin the dental industry ( don't kid yourself, dentists are in the biz for the money)

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                                                  • onwebcam
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                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                    • 27689
                                                    #163
                                                    Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                    So since his plan to infiltrate our country and spread fluoride to us, the United States has become the world's only superpower, seen a steady increase in IQ from generation to generation, and created scientific technology that makes the 1940's look like the stone age. His plan seems to have not been a success.
                                                    Most of those scientists came with technology already far more advanced than ours. Some may still even be alive today. Our space rocket technology was based off of Nazi Germany Technology. Prior to it's downfall then Germany looked very much like todays USA. World renowned stars, lavish lifestyles, etc etc.
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                                                      • pocketkangaroo
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                                                        #164
                                                        Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                        Most of those scientists came with technology already far more advanced than ours. Some may still even be alive today. Our space technology was based off of Nazi Germany Technology.
                                                        Then again, who am I to argue with the people who feel ASCII code prophesies the second coming of Christ.

                                                        http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Nu...888/index.html

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                                                          • Sly
                                                            Let's do some business!
                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                            • 31379
                                                            #165
                                                            Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                            Lobbyists for the fluoride industry? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are people who make money from this. But I'm unaware that there is a lobbying force so strong that they could buy up the AMA, ADA, WHO, and CDC without anyone knowing who they are.

                                                            I know there has been debate on fluoride, but I have always assumed that there is little harm in having it in our water. I've never heard anything this industry being so lucrative that people are willing to kill us to keep it alive.
                                                            LOL, was the only thing I could think of.
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                                                              • iMind
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                                                                #166
                                                                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                the United States has become the world's only superpower, seen a steady increase in IQ from generation to generation.
                                                                on my god.. did I read that correctly? I must be on acid ..

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                                                                  • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                    • 8452
                                                                    #167
                                                                    Originally posted by iMind
                                                                    Well, actually infertility is increasing in HUGE numbers ( find the charts yourself, I've spoonfed you enough ) and so are mental and neurological disorders .. see brackets above..

                                                                    both of which mean incredible amounts of money for the drug industries..
                                                                    Not to mention the HUGE amount of coin the dental industry ( don't kid yourself, dentists are in the biz for the money)
                                                                    So my dentist is a Nazi. This is definitely a bummer.

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                                                                      • iMind
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                                                                        • Nov 2007
                                                                        • 937
                                                                        #168
                                                                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                        So my dentist is a Nazi. This is definitely a bummer.
                                                                        And that's exactly why I asked it onwebcam to drop that "spin" on it..

                                                                        I lost ya now totally.

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                                                                          • iMind
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                                                                            • 937
                                                                            #169
                                                                            Originally posted by Sly
                                                                            Lobbyists... plus now that the system is in place, it would take a lot to reverse it.
                                                                            That's an intelligent assessment, yes.

                                                                            you have to admit, considering that fluoride is scraped from the smoke stacks of fertilizer factories.. it's 100% profit.

                                                                            And you have to consider, with pretty much ALL the western world using it, the profits have to be HUGE.

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                                                                              • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                                • 8452
                                                                                #170
                                                                                Originally posted by iMind
                                                                                And that's exactly why I asked it onwebcam to drop that "spin" on it..

                                                                                I lost ya now totally.
                                                                                I'm just giving you shit. I am not arguing that fluoride may have health risks. The only thing I've been trying to say is that everything seems to be sensationalized by people. That everything isn't black or white, good or bad. We have to weigh the benefits with the risks. I just don't like seeing conspiracy theories get thrown into science discussions.

                                                                                Otherwise, I think it's a great thread. I actually have started cleaning up what I put in my body. I used to drink a 2-Liter of Diet Mountain Dew a day. I've gone almost exclusively to water. I switched the frozen berries I buy to organic and try to research the companies and products I eat as much as I can. I even switched my whole wheat bread from the one that contains high fructose corn syrup to one that just has honey. I had IBS before I changed my diet and was really concerned I would get colon cancer or something. Since changing my diet, my insides are working like a well oiled machine.

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                                                                                  • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    I'm also growing a spice and herb garden next summer. I don't have enough room for one that would have a lot of veggies since I live in the city. But I do love spicing up my meals and figure the stuff in the jars at the grocery store is probably filled with a lot of shit I don't want.

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                                                                                      • iMind
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                                                                                        • 937
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                        I just don't like seeing conspiracy theories get thrown into science discussions.
                                                                                        Me neither .. I know that as soon as that happens everyone just shuts their mind to it.

                                                                                        Regardless of whether the theory might have some ground.

                                                                                        Glad to hear you're changing your diet.. like I said of all the changes I've made, the biggest difference I noticed was when I dumped tap water.. check out reverse osmosis ($2 for 5 gallons) water if you want to try it for your self

                                                                                        So while for some people, they can handle it fine, my body apparently couldn't..
                                                                                        perhaps because I was raised on non fluoridated water, but I swear to you, I had a PERFECT dental record until 20 years of age.. until I moved to the city.. and within 5 years I had 0 teeth left that were salvageable.. and was told it was fluorosis..

                                                                                        now my teeth are porcelain, so it don't matter .. but my bones aren't.

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                                                                                          • Malicious Biz
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                                                            • 4575
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            I've been saying that the Nazi CDC Dentist cabal will be the downfall of this country since the 50's

                                                                                            Join The John Birch Society to help combat this menace.
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                                                                                              • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by iMind
                                                                                                Me neither .. I know that as soon as that happens everyone just shuts their mind to it.

                                                                                                Regardless of whether the theory might have some ground.

                                                                                                Glad to hear you're changing your diet.. like I said of all the changes I've made, the biggest difference I noticed was when I dumped tap water.. check out reverse osmosis ($2 for 5 gallons) water if you want to try it for your self

                                                                                                So while for some people, they can handle it fine, my body apparently couldn't..
                                                                                                perhaps because I was raised on non fluoridated water, but I swear to you, I had a PERFECT dental record until 20 years of age.. until I moved to the city.. and within 5 years I had 0 teeth left that were salvageable.. and was told it was fluorosis..

                                                                                                now my teeth are porcelain, so it don't matter .. but my bones aren't.
                                                                                                Can't you buy reverse osmosis filters? Since I've been drinking a ton of water lately, I've been looking at filters. Will check into the reverse osmosis ones though. Might be better in the long run. I'm honestly too lazy to be lugging jugs around so I'd prefer something in house.

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                                                                                                  • iMind
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                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                    Can't you buy reverse osmosis filters? Since I've been drinking a ton of water lately, I've been looking at filters. Will check into the reverse osmosis ones though. Might be better in the long run. I'm honestly too lazy to be lugging jugs around so I'd prefer something in house.
                                                                                                    Yeah you can.. and as soon as I make it through Xmas with an intact wallet ( hopefully ) I'll be investing in one aswell.

                                                                                                    For now I've been spending $5 tops for a weeks worth of water.. but I also wanna start showering in it, as chlorine and fluoride can be absorbed through skin too.

                                                                                                    Chlorine can be removed very easy with a sodium ball, sodium and chloride neutralize each other making salt.

                                                                                                    Fluoride is damn near impossible to get out without RO.

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                                                                                                      • BFT3K
                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                        • Dec 2005
                                                                                                        • 10764
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        Diet Coke doesn't contain any flouride. This thread has gone wildly off-track.

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                                                                                                          • WarChild
                                                                                                            Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                                            • 17263
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                            Diet Coke doesn't contain any flouride. This thread has gone wildly off-track.
                                                                                                            Fuck I wish I could get me some Diet Coke with Flouride and Growth Hormone added.
                                                                                                            .

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                                                                                                              • iMind
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                                                                                                                • 937
                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                Diet Coke doesn't contain any flouride. This thread has gone wildly off-track.
                                                                                                                You sure about that?
                                                                                                                Water contains fluoride - and coke contains water..
                                                                                                                So off track, yes .. but not that far

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                                                                                                                  • iMind
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                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                    Fuck I wish I could get me some Diet Coke with Flouride and Growth Hormone added.

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                                                                                                                      • Z
                                                                                                                        Vidi Vici Veni
                                                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                        • 6308
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        I'm seriously allergic to artificial sugars and absolutely believe that they're poison and as addictive as nicotine.

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                                                                                                                          • Malicious Biz
                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                            • 4575
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                            Fuck I wish I could get me some Diet Coke with Flouride and Growth Hormone added.
                                                                                                                            I'll take mine with delicious HPV Vaccine please

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                                                                                                                              • iMind
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                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                Well, just saw this post .. http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=875564

                                                                                                                                If you want to avoid aspartame..looks like you're going to be paying alot more for regular pop..
                                                                                                                                Almost gives some credit to the "purposely poisoning us" theory, doesn't it.

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                                                                                                                                  • iMind
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                                                                                                                                    #183


                                                                                                                                    If that face ain't enough to get you to stop drinking diet soda.. nothing will.

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                                                                                                                                      • onwebcam
                                                                                                                                        Fake Nick 1.0
                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                        • 27689
                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                                                        Then again, who am I to argue with the people who feel ASCII code prophesies the second coming of Christ.

                                                                                                                                        http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Nu...888/index.html
                                                                                                                                        I just grabbed a link. There's plenty to choose from. Grab your own and do some research. BTW I don't believe in Christ.
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