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  • RP Fade
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    • Sep 2003
    • 3343

    #51
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    • V_RocKs
      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
      • Nov 2003
      • 32451

      #52
      I used my card so that I can take all of the info to my district attorney and have their billing revoked when the billing companies don't want to have anything to do with an investigation.

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      • JD
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Sep 2003
        • 22651

        #53
        Originally posted by V_RocKs
        I used my card so that I can take all of the info to my district attorney and have their billing revoked when the billing companies don't want to have anything to do with an investigation.
        i think most of the guys doing this are overseas

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        • JamesK
          hi
          • Jun 2002
          • 16731

          #54
          No wonder their chargeback rate is so high.
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          • V_RocKs
            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
            • Nov 2003
            • 32451

            #55
            Well, Mitch, why is NetBilling docking my credit card for a membership I canceled? And why are you guys billing for a company CCBILL and Epoch won't touch?

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            • Matyko
              PsyHead
              • Aug 2005
              • 8674

              #56
              Originally posted by sherm
              We need some serious self regulation....From the sponsors, to the affiliates, to the billing companies. We are all responsible for policing our industry, or the government will.
              Couldn't agree more.
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              • nickutis
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2002
                • 719

                #57
                I$ support used to sit in this forum for days with those "spam and win threads".. I wonder why there is no response to this one?

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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #58
                  Originally posted by VIPimp
                  Whatever you do, dont chargeback... that will result in ALL your info being placed into a fraud database, which is used by ALL internet companies. Once you're on there you wont be able to use ANY of your cards on the entire internet ever! and not just porn sites!
                  LOLOLOL
                  I think Visa might have something to say about this.

                  The main stream Internet sales are growing, built mostly on good business practices, so if peoples cards were black listed for a legit charge back they would be very angry. All you need to do is send Visa the links.



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                  • VIPimp
                    Marina WILL have my babies!
                    • May 2003
                    • 9234

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    I think Visa might have something to say about this.

                    The main stream Internet sales are growing, built mostly on good business practices, so if peoples cards were black listed for a legit charge back they would be very angry. All you need to do is send Visa the links.
                    Its not possible for these guys to blacklist a person from using a card on the net lol... thats just their scare tactic.

                    I was laughing at that text on their (and others) support site.

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #60
                      Originally posted by sherm
                      We need some serious self regulation....From the sponsors, to the affiliates, to the billing companies. We are all responsible for policing our industry, or the government will.
                      Do you seriously think that would happen?

                      This industry willnever self regulate and has to be forced to regulate. I started a thread asking about regulation and most of the posters there want to see less if not NO regulation.

                      No worries the members will regulate us, they will no longer spend money.

                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                      I used my card so that I can take all of the info to my district attorney and have their billing revoked when the billing companies don't want to have anything to do with an investigation.
                      More people need to do this and throw a few people into prison. Then some might go for self regulation.



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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942

                        #61
                        Originally posted by V_RocKs
                        Well, Mitch, why is NetBilling docking my credit card for a membership I canceled? And why are you guys billing for a company CCBILL and Epoch won't touch?
                        Maybe sending the information to Visa will help.

                        Could be that if Visa find out they might look at how some companies operate and take action. Then everyone will be screaming about another processor going down and people losing money because of it.



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                        • XX_RydeR
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 2151

                          #62
                          Is this shit going to end?

                          How long are people going to continue promoting affiliate programs that operate like this?
                          You Dun Goofed!

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                          • Tempest
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • May 2004
                            • 10217

                            #63
                            Originally posted by XX_RydeR
                            How long are people going to continue promoting affiliate programs that operate like this?
                            Until the cheques stop arriving...

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                            • DamageX
                              Marketing & Strategy
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 14293

                              #64
                              May your credit card RIP. It will be greatly missed.
                              Whitehat is for chumps

                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                              • seeandsee
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                                • Mar 2006
                                • 50945

                                #65
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                                • bobby666
                                  boots are my religion
                                  • Nov 2005
                                  • 21765

                                  #66
                                  simply incredible

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                                  • nico-t
                                    emperor of my world
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 29901

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by the Shemp
                                    damn, would somebody please buy a round of drinks and get this sorted out...




                                    this is fucked up though i just joined em

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                                    • Fabien
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 4789

                                      #68
                                      God damn it !
                                      I'm getting 50$/crack with 'hem arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


                                      Wtf's happening ? Are all sponsors turning into the darkforce or what ?
                                      FUCK THAT SHIT !
                                      Now i'm sending my surfers to scammers ! Which ain't really good biz for me. Yeah sure i makea a buck or 2 with it but in the long run...

                                      Now get your FUCKING ACT TOGHETER WILL YA ?

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                                      • 12clicks
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 19814

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by mynameisjim
                                        I think it's pretty clear what is going on with the majority of the big programs.

                                        Why it's even still debated makes me wonder.
                                        dear clueless. look up the word "majority"
                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                        • Qbert
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 813

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                          dear clueless. look up the word "majority"
                                          Damn, I find myself agreeing with 12clicks. Quick, someone check if Hell has frozen over.

                                          From what I've seen it's a relatively small number of programs that are responsible for the vast majority of the shady cross sale and credit card scams. The sheer magnitude is what is so shocking.

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                                          • Fletch XXX
                                            GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 60840

                                            #71
                                            for the record, Incredible is the company that claimed a "rogue affiliate" was carding and used my number to join on their sites (with me never visiting a single site or joining one) and we brought it to the attention of Incredible (on icq were told refund would be put through)

                                            I am sorry i reported on GFY all was good, there was no refund ever made and I am still totally clueless and amazed a company can just withdraw funds from my account for multiple trials and memberships to sites in their network, while i never even surfed any of them, let alone pull my card out and join.

                                            this is fraud and its amazing to see everyone coming out about this, a good while after many of us have made threads on GFY about these weird fraud charges.

                                            this is blatant fraud and i had to report my card stolen and stop all charges going through because some "rogue affiliate" was putting through fraudulent memberships with my credit card number?

                                            I wouldnt post about this had we not been told by a person the refund was going out,... it never has...

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                                            • 12clicks
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 19814

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Qbert
                                              Damn, I find myself agreeing with 12clicks. Quick, someone check if Hell has frozen over.

                                              From what I've seen it's a relatively small number of programs that are responsible for the vast majority of the shady cross sale and credit card scams. The sheer magnitude is what is so shocking.
                                              hmmmm, how is being surprised you agree with one of the most successful online operators this industry has ever seen a good thing for you?
                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                              • Bryan G
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2005
                                                • 8338

                                                #73
                                                Interesting
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                                                • V_RocKs
                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 32451

                                                  #74
                                                  I find it alarming how many people are generalizing this type of behavior as an industry wide problem. This is not an industry wide problem. There are plenty of very large programs that don't use these tactics.

                                                  Thus far it seems Incredible Dollars doesn't even have actual customer service reps...

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                                                  • VIPimp
                                                    Marina WILL have my babies!
                                                    • May 2003
                                                    • 9234

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Qbert
                                                    From what I've seen it's a relatively small number of programs that are responsible for the vast majority of the shady cross sale and credit card scams. The sheer magnitude is what is so shocking.
                                                    I wouldnt say its a small number of programs, maybe you are unaware of many of them.
                                                    edit: or maybe better way to say it is a small number of people are responsible.
                                                    Last edited by VIPimp; 12-12-2008, 12:20 PM.

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                                                    • DamageX
                                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 14293

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                      I find it alarming how many people are generalizing this type of behavior as an industry wide problem. This is not an industry wide problem.
                                                      Or at least, if it is, you're not aware of it yet. I'd advise you to try your card with a few of your favourite cross-selling programs and see if it makes it out alive. Or better yet, get a new card and try it here and there, just so you can easily tie it to the culprits.
                                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                      • V_RocKs
                                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 32451

                                                        #77


                                                        Looks like I canceled... So I went back and canceled 3 more times just to be sure... Seems their cancellation form does nothing more than pretend to cancel you.

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                                                        • VIPimp
                                                          Marina WILL have my babies!
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 9234

                                                          #78
                                                          Is that kara's ad a instant 1click join with no confirm?

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                                                          • mynameisjim
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                            • 2985

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                            dear clueless. look up the word "majority"
                                                            Were you offended because I didn't consider you a "big program"?

                                                            Anyway, being called clueless on GFY is almost a compliment. The less I have in common with people here the better
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                                                            • SiMpLe
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 3221

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs


                                                              Looks like I canceled... So I went back and canceled 3 more times just to be sure... Seems their cancellation form does nothing more than pretend to cancel you.

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                                                              • V_RocKs
                                                                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 32451

                                                                #81
                                                                Just sent Netbilling the info. Awaiting their answer on what steps they will take to make the cancellation form at Incredible Dollars actually work.


                                                                * No, it sends you to an ad page.

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                                                                • Horny Joe
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                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                  • 2661

                                                                  #82
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                                                                  • 12clicks
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 19814

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by mynameisjim
                                                                    Were you offended because I didn't consider you a "big program"?

                                                                    Anyway, being called clueless on GFY is almost a compliment. The less I have in common with people here the better
                                                                    welcome home from whatever your real job is.

                                                                    now you have all night to pretend you have a clue!
                                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                    • TyroneGoldberg
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2007
                                                                      • 1081

                                                                      #84
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                                                                      • nico-t
                                                                        emperor of my world
                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                        • 29901

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                        welcome home from whatever your real job is.
                                                                        ancient diss, get with the times

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                                                                        • pocketkangaroo
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                          • 8452

                                                                          #86
                                                                          I hope you didn't use a real credit card. I'd also say to keep an eye on your card for awhile. When I signed up through them, I got hit by someone almost 2 weeks later.

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                                                                          • Major (Tom)
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 32492

                                                                            #87
                                                                            I trust them like I trust a fart.
                                                                            He's been a ripoff artist wayyyy before this.. It's his M.O. You can't reform someone who's been banging cards their entire adult life.

                                                                            Duke

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                                                                            • EXPORT
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                                              • 1345

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                                              I trust them like I trust a fart.
                                                                              He's been a ripoff artist wayyyy before this.. It's his M.O. You can't reform someone who's been banging cards their entire adult life.

                                                                              Duke

                                                                              Now THAT is something!

                                                                              DUKE stepping up, nice one!

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                                                                              • PXN
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jun 2008
                                                                                • 1548

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Thanks for taking your time to do this investigation V_Rocks. You rocks man!!
                                                                                Hope someone will send this to the FTC and FBI.


                                                                                I took all I$ FHG off my biggest site, will take it off all my sites by Monday.

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                                                                                • commonsense
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                  • 1790

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                                                  I trust them like I trust a fart.
                                                                                  He's been a ripoff artist wayyyy before this.. It's his M.O. You can't reform someone who's been banging cards their entire adult life.

                                                                                  Duke

                                                                                  Who are you talking about? Glenn?

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                                                                                  • Roald
                                                                                    SecretFriends.com
                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                    • 27910

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                    Just sent Netbilling the info. Awaiting their answer on what steps they will take to make the cancellation form at Incredible Dollars actually work.


                                                                                    * No, it sends you to an ad page.
                                                                                    They don't give a shit, thats basically what they said them selfs. They are not here to police the interweb.

                                                                                    The great thing is you can host your own joinpage with NB if you have a merchant (some others do this too though). Imagine the things you can do with that


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                                                                                    • hjnet
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                      • 3815

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by VIPimp
                                                                                      Whatever you do, dont chargeback... that will result in ALL your info being placed into a fraud database, which is used by ALL internet companies. Once you're on there you wont be able to use ANY of your cards on the entire internet ever! and not just porn sites!
                                                                                      LOLOLOL
                                                                                      That's not true, I got one of my CC's Data stolen a few years ago, and charged back 1500 from over 21 different billings. Got a new card and never had any problem with using them since then.

                                                                                      Interesting Fact is that I've used the Card only for Google, Yahoo and Sex.com, I wonder which one of these forwarded my data to some thieves

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                                                                                      • VIPimp
                                                                                        Marina WILL have my babies!
                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                        • 9234

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by hjnet
                                                                                        That's not true, I got one of my CC's Data stolen a few years ago, and charged back 1500 from over 21 different billings. Got a new card and never had any problem with using them since then.

                                                                                        Interesting Fact is that I've used the Card only for Google, Yahoo and Sex.com, I wonder which one of these forwarded my data to some thieves
                                                                                        Yes I know its not true... I found it funny that many sites are using that on their support pages... of course that is not possible to do, they just putting a scare in the customer who most likely will never join another porn site again.

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                                                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32451

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Almost 1,900 views of this thread and not a peep from Incredible dollars?

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                                                                                          • Major (Tom)
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                                            • 32492

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by commonsense
                                                                                            Who are you talking about? Glenn?
                                                                                            YES
                                                                                            Duke

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                                                                                            • Roald
                                                                                              SecretFriends.com
                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                              • 27910

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                              Almost 1,900 views of this thread and not a peep from Incredible dollars?
                                                                                              Are you kidding? What would you seriously expect to get from them? a Yes you are correct man we scam CC's?


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                                                                                              • PPjohn
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                                • 871

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                This is bad

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                                                                                                • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                                                  • 8452

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                  Almost 1,900 views of this thread and not a peep from Incredible dollars?
                                                                                                  They are committing credit card fraud. Not sure what they have to say. Just watch that card in a couple weeks. Hope it was a prepaid, I had to cancel mine.

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                                                                                                  • SpeakEasy
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                    • 2681

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                    Almost 1,900 views of this thread and not a peep from Incredible dollars?

                                                                                                    Or Net Billing, but Mitch is probabally to busy shopping for another new car on this money.....
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                                                                                                    • V_RocKs
                                                                                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                      • 32451

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Another fake $50 coming up.

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