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02-02-2017, 07:29 AM

Hey

I've been using all social media platforms to promote myself and my website and I always found Twitter to be one of the best..but right now, with all the porn media flowing in the feed I don't think there will be people interested in the cam girls.
What do you think about this?
And also, what social media platform should I use to better promote myself? I appreciate your answers as you guys are people that know what I'm talking about and also consumers

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02-02-2017, 07:34 AM

did you tried with snapchat ?

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02-02-2017, 07:49 AM

Instagram, Snapchat and Facebook... Just understand that they are totally different than Twitter and each one takes a lot of serious work to engage people that will make you money in the long haul

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02-02-2017, 08:35 AM

I am focussing on Twitter and Snapchat. The last one is growing BIG.
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02-02-2017, 08:45 AM

If you can get influencers on Snapchat and Instagram you are golden. Instagram is growing faster than most people realized...and if used correctly is a goldmine

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02-02-2017, 08:50 AM

One twitter account for your camsite or one for each model? if one for each model then its should prove its worth.

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02-02-2017, 09:00 AM

I saw the videos you put on YouTube and think these have potential. However, you need to edit the video much more and make it more "action packed", and have a stronger call to action.

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02-02-2017, 09:05 AM

Tumblr and twitter far the best ones traffic wise. Shame that Facebook and Instagram are not so adult friendly.

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02-02-2017, 09:12 AM

'Camgirls' are people -- Porn videos are just for fapin' to moving pictures.
Concentrate on your biggest asset -- the ability to listen -- that is what men really want -- a woman that cares about them.

It does help if she has nice juggs and a hot ass ;)
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02-02-2017, 09:15 AM

I want to do a porn and adult friendly social media website but it is a YUGE! project. Assembling the money and development talent is the problem. There certainly is a need to have a 'social media' were you can do the nasty ;)

If anyone has a few million that is doing nothing ...
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02-02-2017, 09:47 AM

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02-02-2017, 10:47 AM

Half in jest -- but there may be a lurker or two ;)
What do you think Twitter cost? and Periscope -- hint hint ...

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02-06-2017, 07:38 PM

Well.. in my oppinion twitter remains the best way of promoting as a model. )
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02-06-2017, 07:54 PM

Twitter, you just have to use it right
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02-06-2017, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by Devious Angel

Hey

I've been using all social media platforms to promote myself and my website and I always found Twitter to be one of the best..but right now, with all the porn media flowing in the feed I don't think there will be people interested in the cam girls.
What do you think about this?
And also, what social media platform should I use to better promote myself? I appreciate your answers as you guys are people that know what I'm talking about and also consumers

I would say Instagram, there is millions of uber popular girls just for posting hot pics.

Get a following and post your contact details on the images.

Snap chat will be the next big Social Network in general though. Good to get in now.

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02-08-2017, 03:27 AM

Twitter should do the job

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02-08-2017, 03:33 AM

Twitter lost a merger/acquisition deal recently. Porn may have turned off the potential buyers; Salesforce and Disney. Twitter could take many forms depending on new owner - Business Insider

They may throw porn under the bus before their next attempt
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02-08-2017, 03:40 PM

Try periscope either before during or after you get off cam.. Reddit?
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02-08-2017, 03:44 PM

Periscope bans use for a commercial service like using a sign with a URL -- they will close your account.
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02-09-2017, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

I want to do a porn and adult friendly social media website but it is a YUGE! project. Assembling the money and development talent is the problem. There certainly is a need to have a 'social media' were you can do the nasty ;)

If anyone has a few million that is doing nothing ...

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02-09-2017, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Devious Angel

Hey

I've been using all social media platforms to promote myself and my website and I always found Twitter to be one of the best..but right now, with all the porn media flowing in the feed I don't think there will be people interested in the cam girls.
What do you think about this?
And also, what social media platform should I use to better promote myself? I appreciate your answers as you guys are people that know what I'm talking about and also consumers

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02-09-2017, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by chaze

I would say Instagram, there is millions of uber popular girls just for posting hot pics.

Get a following and post your contact details on the images.

Snap chat will be the next big Social Network in general though. Good to get in now.

Instagram is not adult friendly, but as long as you post some non nude pictures I think you are ok. As far as I know you also can not post the links on there.

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02-09-2017, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

'Camgirls' are people -- Porn videos are just for fapin' to moving pictures.
Concentrate on your biggest asset -- the ability to listen -- that is what men really want -- a woman that cares about them.

It does help if she has nice juggs and a hot ass ;)

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02-09-2017, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

I want to do a porn and adult friendly social media website but it is a YUGE! project. Assembling the money and development talent is the problem. There certainly is a need to have a 'social media' were you can do the nasty ;)

If anyone has a few million that is doing nothing ...

Why a few million?

You have access to girls who can do videos and access to other companies who can do videos. Getting a program that can host videos is easy. Getting hosting isn't going to cost millions, not before it's making millions selling ad space.

Once the videos are up getting traffic isn't the problem. The problem is keeping it interesting enough to keep them returning and not nasty enough to make the traffic convert at 1-10,000. The type of clients you talk about are well worth paying $50 for.

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02-09-2017, 04:32 AM

Paul I am talking a website like Twitter or Facebook.
With pay cams for the users.
Secure pre-recorded video streaming.
A internet payment wallet.
Buy an account if you want commercial use.
No ads if the seat is a bought account.

Not some mickey mouse cobbled together website.

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02-09-2017, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by Devious Angel

Hey

I've been using all social media platforms to promote myself and my website and I always found Twitter to be one of the best..but right now, with all the porn media flowing in the feed I don't think there will be people interested in the cam girls.
What do you think about this?
And also, what social media platform should I use to better promote myself? I appreciate your answers as you guys are people that know what I'm talking about and also consumers

It's the old adage - everyone can run, not everyone is Usain Bolt. It all depends on the strategies you use on any social media platform.

Insta and FB have issues around NSFW but there are ways around this.
Twitter still dominates, especially for direct conversations and leveraging social proof.
Snapchat is on the rise - but you want to create a story on it rather than just throwing up random stuff.
Periscope currently has one of the largest opportunities as no one is really dominating this at the moment - since twitter bought it expect to see them try to get this to rival Facebook live.

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02-09-2017, 05:06 AM

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02-09-2017, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by Devious Angel

Hey

I've been using all social media platforms to promote myself and my website and I always found Twitter to be one of the best..but right now, with all the porn media flowing in the feed I don't think there will be people interested in the cam girls.
What do you think about this?
And also, what social media platform should I use to better promote myself? I appreciate your answers as you guys are people that know what I'm talking about and also consumers

From reading an article from a guy who runs a major cam modelling site - Twitter and Instagram seem to be your best bet.

Twitter for more explicit content. Instagram for teasers: "hook" images such as bathroom selfies.

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02-09-2017, 07:11 AM

Instagram and Snapchat are great ways to monetize. We work with several models who are happy to make some Crak Revenues with their account

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02-09-2017, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

Paul I am talking a website like Twitter or Facebook.
With pay cams for the users.
Secure pre-recorded video streaming.
A internet payment wallet.
Buy an account if you want commercial use.
No ads if the seat is a bought account.

Not some mickey mouse cobbled together website.

You need to have your shit together to sell commercial seats. Not be a GFY joke.
10 million sessions a month.

Sorry I was thinking of a site purely to promote girls, be a bit naughty and not going to get girls banned.

Your idea won't work. If yu can't see why that's your fault.

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02-09-2017, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by BIGBadThunder

It's the old adage - everyone can run, not everyone is Usain Bolt. It all depends on the strategies you use on any social media platform.

True not everyone can be Usain Bolt, but everyone can be a better runner.

Surfers are flooded with girls. Work harder on what you post. Stand out as someone who is better than the rest, more special, a better deliverer of what you sell.

You may not ever be a Usain Bolt, but you can be someone who runs faster than you do.

Take some time to study actors and how they come across in interviews. Most have the same quality when selling themselves in a movie. They're open, positive, fun and reveal something of themselves, even if it's fake the audience believes them.

Improve the response on the traffic you have. Then work at finding more traffic.

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02-09-2017, 07:43 AM

I take that as a vote of approval if Markham says an idea won't work -- it probably will -- he's been proven wrong for years.
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02-09-2017, 07:51 AM

Our models have a lot of success on Twitter. They can post nudity so it's great
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02-10-2017, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

I take that as a vote of approval if Markham says an idea won't work -- it probably will -- he's been proven wrong for years.

When was I proven wrong?

Maybe when I said free porn was losing more sales than it created?

Or was it when I said .cam was a dumb idea except for selling to people who wanted to add .cam to their own names. Who has bought .cam so we can see the domains? LiveJasmin.cam does a redirect to LiveJasmin.com. Same on .xlovecam.cam

I'm sure you are good at what ever it is that you do. But that's not innovation, marketing or selling. This thread has revealed something many see as a problem. I see it as an opportunity and told you about it, you couldn't see it.

Instead, you want to create a $10 million site to sell porn.

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02-10-2017, 04:58 AM

And they paid for the privilege . One day xlovecam.com will be redirected to xlove.cam and maybe other cam sites will do the same. Problem with you, is you do not realize, that we are cash heavy and can support new developments --win-lose-draw.

If you don't try you will never get anywhere.

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02-10-2017, 08:31 AM

I have zero experience in adult niche but I live off online money for 8 years now. My humble suggestion is to focus on one social media platform - Instagram. You can't focus on more than ONE and if you do it right, Insta will keep you busy for next 5 years minimum.
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02-10-2017, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

Paul I am talking a website like Twitter or Facebook.
With pay cams for the users.
Secure pre-recorded video streaming.
A internet payment wallet.
Buy an account if you want commercial use.
No ads if the seat is a bought account.

Not some mickey mouse cobbled together website.

You need to have your shit together to sell commercial seats. Not be a GFY joke.
10 million sessions a month.

That would be awesome! I love your thoughts on building commerce into your platform.

A challenge to keep in mind is that, largely because Calpers has a policy against funds which invest in adult, you'd leave a lot of dough on the table making it primarily adult. MySpace got big with adult traffic and then purged it. I like the way Twitter has done it, where they may lose potential exits, but they are investable and people can look at Twitter any time versus something like PornHub where they have to think about where they are.

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02-10-2017, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by jerkules

Instagram is not adult friendly, but as long as you post some non nude pictures I think you are ok. As far as I know you also can not post the links on there.

You can always post a link in your profile - would be best to have it go to a funnel and not a direct affiliate link - and you can change it whenever you want if you want to test funnels

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02-10-2017, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

And they paid for the privilege . One day xlovecam.com will be redirected to xlove.cam and maybe other cam sites will do the same. Problem with you, is you do not realize, that we are cash heavy and can support new developments --win-lose-draw.

If you don't try you will never get anywhere.

If you think you can develop a new model for the adult industry, and have risk capital, just fucking do something ... Bullshit walks and money talks.

You are a has-been; Mr. Usta Be
When you have a dog in the fight maybe I will pay attention ...

Let's see if I have this right.

A website like Twitter or Facebook.
With pay cams for the users.
Secure pre-recorded video streaming.
A internet payment wallet.
Buy an account if you want commercial use.
No ads if the seat is a bought account.

Links to paid 1-1 cam girls or free cams?

Secure pre-recorded video streaming. Free or paid for?

Buy an account if you want commercial use. The girl or cam company pays for the commercial use? To put up what?

No ads if the seat is a bought account. I'm thinking it would be like FB where all the videos of one girl would be online.

My idea is a free site where porn people can post with immunity, but not throwing out enough free porn to kill the sale. Where girls or cam companies can post videos promoting girls. It's all softcore and paid for by advertising.

If webmasters are constantly updating the site with new promos, it will score high on SE's. They key is to make it interesting and appealing enough to bring surfers back time after time. Today people are doing this on sites where they risk getting banned you can remove that risk.

The only problem is kicking it off with enough people posting on the site to build good traffic.

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02-10-2017, 11:42 PM

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That would be awesome! I love your thoughts on building commerce into your platform.

A challenge to keep in mind is that, largely because Calpers has a policy against funds which invest in adult, you'd leave a lot of dough on the table making it primarily adult. MySpace got big with adult traffic and then purged it. I like the way Twitter has done it, where they may lose potential exits, but they are investable and people can look at Twitter any time versus something like PornHub where they have to think about where they are.

How many sites like FB, Twitter, YT started from the bottom and worked up?

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02-10-2017, 11:45 PM

What? Gary havent posted here yet?
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02-11-2017, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

How many sites like FB, Twitter, YT started from the bottom and worked up?

All of them. In what way do you think that is not the case?

I was a speaker at SXSW the year Twitter broke big there, getting a lot of influencers on board, but that doesn't mean there was no starting point.

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02-11-2017, 05:19 AM

Paul we are not bottom-feeders.
IMHO the world does not need a new Facebook or Twitter.

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Who the fuck are you Paul -- Bozo the Clown?
Someone coming to the craps table with a pocket full of spare change -- hoping to get lucky?

I think trying to be the next Facebook or Twitter is a sure way to lose your investment right now. This is like the Slob Republic attacking the US, Russia or China -- assured lose.

Private capitalization is needed and this is not one co-lo server and some CMS platform -- give me a break ...

Adult is a niche that these monster businesses do not want.
You have a touchpoint to exploit.
You won't have access to bank money, VC funding or a realistic chance of an IPO.
Private capitalization is the only way.

You also have an adult presence in the mainstream social media the is a very unwelcome guest. A presence to be rid of like a toothache to keep the public shareholders (many institutional) happy.

We are currently starting development of a non adult platform a .cam "social media." I would rather spend the money in adult social media segment for the above reasoning.

Millions of dollars include marketing and branding costs -- that is a very big part to make anything successful.

Actually, commercial businesses will be able to buy slots (accounts) to display their "wares" without any display or link advertising other than their own. They will also be able to buy ads in the free-zone of users and free-sites in the community. I would not even consider starting a development of this magnitude without solid 7 figure funding.
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02-11-2017, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by Ferus

What? Gary havent posted here yet?

Gary & I have been too busy posting and socialising on our twitter accounts.

Twitter, the best for personal sales & communications with any models fans, guy or girl, also for all businesses these days

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02-11-2017, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by Brian mike

Twitter should do the job

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02-11-2017, 06:21 PM

I think most models have twitter and IG account.
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02-12-2017, 12:47 AM

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All of them. In what way do you think that is not the case?

I was a speaker at SXSW the year Twitter broke big there, getting a lot of influencers on board, but that doesn't mean there was no starting point.

Which is why a porn friendly alternative to the anti-porn present is a great opportunity to start from the bottom.

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02-12-2017, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

Paul we are not bottom-feeders.
IMHO the world does not need a new Facebook or Twitter.

The world may not. Porn does need a place where it can market without fearing losing accounts.

Who the fuck are you Barry -- Bozo the Clown?

Adult is a niche that these monster businesses do not want.
You have a touchpoint to exploit.
You won't have access to bank money, VC funding or a realistic chance of an IPO.
Private capitalization is the only way.

If you go head to head with giants doing the same as they do, you lose.

And until you free yourself from the box you won't understand.

2008 Tubes opened on small budgets without private funding, traffic, real marketing etc. They had one thing over FB, YT. Tits and Ass. Twitter isn't going to compete for porn traffic against the top Porn Tubes.

A site that can allow porn to market without the fear of being shut out is what the industry needs. Surfers will come because it's porn the job of the site is to make it good enough to bring them back.

Your constant cry of not having enough money to take on FB, YT, etc. Shows you haven't got enough money to do anything.

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02-12-2017, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by adultchatpay

I think most models have twitter and IG account.

How many would have an account on a site similar to FB, YT that was more porn-friendly?

Models, affiliates, publishers are looking for better alternatives and one where there is no fear of getting banned.

Barry has missed that part. Pity he can't see out of his box.

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02-12-2017, 04:04 AM

@Paul you really don't stand a chance -- stay retired ...

You are actually agreeing with what is said point by point? WTF?

Porn tubes used the content theft model so you can do that low budget.

Smash and grab takes a hammer, running shoes and bail money BOZO PAUL!

You really are either not able to keep up or and early Alzheimer's victim

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

I want to do a porn and adult friendly social media website but it is a YUGE! project. Assembling the money and development talent is the problem. There certainly is a need to have a 'social media' were you can do the nasty ;)

If anyone has a few million that is doing nothing ...
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