De La Hoya Vs. Vargas
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Put any of those boxing pussies in the octagon and watch them get their asses whomped. That would be a fight.Comment
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Yeah, it was pretty exciting. Good fight!
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agreed
Im fuckin retired
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I disagree.. I think even a bum professional boxer would put an "ultimate fighter" in the hospital in about 40 seconds.. check out a pro fight some time, it's like the difference between kids who hook up their Hondas and the big boys runnin' 10s on n/a 350s.Xanadu024 (aim) or 286785389 (icq)
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That was a good fight though...
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Originally posted by booker
I disagree.. I think even a bum professional boxer would put an "ultimate fighter" in the hospital in about 40 seconds.. check out a pro fight some time, it's like the difference between kids who hook up their Hondas and the big boys runnin' 10s on n/a 350s.
I dont think so, it all depends on the rules of the game. Pure boxers have tried NHB... and had their ass's handed to them.
Same would go if you put an NHB fighter in a straight boxing match. Thats the boxers world, he would dominate there.
Anyhoo.... Ultimate fighting has evolved. There is no longer any pure styles in NHB competiton. Everybody is crosstrained now days.... every fighter studies boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, and jiujitsu.
Knowing only how to box, or only how to groundfight... means you are going to take a beating.
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"studying" boxing or another style and being a pro boxer are different animals. again, check out a live pro fight and compare it to the sparring that everyone else does, the brutality behind a pro boxer's jab is shocking.Xanadu024 (aim) or 286785389 (icq)
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Originally posted by booker
"studying" boxing or another style and being a pro boxer are different animals. again, check out a live pro fight and compare it to the sparring that everyone else does, the brutality behind a pro boxer's jab is shocking.
... and check out the takedown power of an Olympian wrestler.
Shit... your average college wrestler would BEAT THE FUCK out of ANY pro boxer in his same weight class.
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I remember one of the first UFC's where there was a pure boxer in there. He got destroyed.
I wish they still did it like the old days. The most entertaining fight I seen was the 400+ lb sumo wrestler against a little judo guy. He hit the sumo wrestler in the head so many times he broke his hand. He won, but he couldn't continue because of his hand.
Now they've taken most of the fun out of it, because there are no more outrageous mismatches anymore.Comment
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Any of you see Arturo Gatti -- Mickey Ward a few months ago? I've got to say that's one of my favorites.
I think the Vargas - Trinidad fight was better than the De la Hoya fight.Comment
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.."pure" boxer and a professional are different stories as are amateur and pro; had they gotten a decent pro boxer against that sumo wrestler he would have broken the guy's jaw in 2 hits to the head.Originally posted by evildick
I remember one of the first UFC's where there was a pure boxer in there. He got destroyed.
I wish they still did it like the old days. The most entertaining fight I seen was the 400+ lb sumo wrestler against a little judo guy. He hit the sumo wrestler in the head so many times he broke his hand. He won, but he couldn't continue because of his hand.
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you're all wrong..
best fight ever = AOL TIME WARNER vs CEN
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I agree with you on both counts.Originally posted by shap
Any of you see Arturo Gatti -- Mickey Ward a few months ago? I've got to say that's one of my favorites.
I think the Vargas - Trinidad fight was better than the De la Hoya fight.
The Arturo Gatti & Mickey Ward fight was brutal. Bert Sugar even said that that was one of the most punishing fight in that weight class he's seen in a long time. I have a lotta respect for those guys.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
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Hey, I started a cool boxing site a while ago... it's all free:
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Please upload any fights you might have!"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -Hunter S. ThompsonComment
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Every sport you have to train for and if ya put a grapler in the ring with boxing rules they are fish otta water.... Visaversa! And I love Ultimate fighting...
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Good fights I can remember
Boxing:
Gatti/Ward
Hagler/Hearns
Holyfield/Tyson I
Vargas/DeLa Hoya
MMA:
Rizzo/Couture (either one was cool)
Coleman/Frye
Ruttan/Randleman
F.Shamrock/Ortiz
Silva/Metzger
Metzger/Liddel
added Oscer/Fernando in there ;)Last edited by Steve; 09-22-2002, 06:57 PM.Comment
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Your site is fuckin fantastic!Originally posted by the indigo
Hey, I started a cool boxing site a while ago... it's all free:
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Please upload any fights you might have!
All real boxing fans should have it bookmarked!I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
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barrara vs morales in 2000 was one of the best ever.
If you think De La Hoya Vs. Vargas was best fight ever, you do not watch much boxing.Sig too big
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Thanks!! I'm downloading some of the fights I wish I saw but missed. A definite site to bookmark!!Originally posted by the indigo
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Comparing UFC and boxing is not comparing "apples to apples"...they both require a different skill set.
I was a wrestler in college and did a couple of tours with the US National team...then competed in shootfighting in Japan for a couple of years. I weigh roughly the same as Mike Tyson...you couldn't pay me to get in the right with him, under boxing rules. I would imagine he would be tough to wrestle, too. He is a strong man.
On he other hand, the best UFC fighter, by far (he only fights in Japan) is one of the Gracie brothers...his name is Hixson Gracie...he would eat Mike Tyson alive.
Each sports requires a completely different set of skills and it isn't fair to say one is better than the other. Most of the UFC stuff is from Okinawa and migrated to brazil. The Japanese had removed all the weapons from the okinawans and they developed a style of fighting that is deadly and effective. Boxing is a sport, and the rules are quite different.
I can assure you the Hixson would not box with Mike Tyson, under boxing rules. By the way, there are quite a few Gracie do-jo's in the US....one I attend regularly is run by Carlton Gracie in Chicago...those guys are awsome.The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his. -George PattonComment
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NOT!!!Originally posted by BT_trafficcashgold
De La Hoya Vs. Vargas
best fight ever was Morales vs Barrera, Morales vs that irish guy?FTP
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I've seen too many great fights in my life to say one was better than the other, I'm surprised some of you haven't mentioned some of Ali's bouts, or Roberto Duran...
There's plenty of greatness to go around, Dela vs Vargas was a good if not great fight, but there are plenty to choose from...check out ESPN Classic from time to time, you'll see great shit there.
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Fuck, did you ever see a tape of George Foreman and Ron Lyle in Vegas? They beat the fucking shit out of each other! And I know he kicked his ass, but I liked seeing Foreman vs Frazier.Originally posted by Nedder
There's plenty of greatness to go around, Dela vs Vargas was a good if not great fight, but there are plenty to choose from...check out ESPN Classic from time to time, you'll see great shit there.
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Ruiz vs. Holyfield
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being i'm an old boxing fan i remeber aaron pryor and alexis arguello...just a brutal fightComment
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nice site man.. I'll try to upload a few things I have before too long.. how about posting some sort of rating on quality of the rip? I'm sure people would either make or find better rips to replace some of the ones you have which aren't very crisp.Xanadu024 (aim) or 286785389 (icq)
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Are you for real?Originally posted by Exxxotica
... and check out the takedown power of an Olympian wrestler.
Shit... your average college wrestler would BEAT THE FUCK out of ANY pro boxer in his same weight class.
A Featherweight would take down any college wrestler.........including heavyweights!
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Originally posted by jreaka
Are you for real?
A Featherweight would take down any college wrestler.........including heavyweights!
You're being sarcastic right?
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a great fight was Nigel Benn vs. Gerald the 'G' man McClelland
totally brutal, pity it did actually end up with McClelland being fucker up
I also liked all the hearns, hagler, leonard fightsComment
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Ward Vs Gatti is probably the best fight i've ever seen. It was brutalOriginally posted by shap
Any of you see Arturo Gatti -- Mickey Ward a few months ago? I've got to say that's one of my favorites.
I think the Vargas - Trinidad fight was better than the De la Hoya fight.Comment
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Boxing is a great sport. It is very hard to compare the ufc style and pro boxing.........Booker I hear ya ! I have watched a number of the UFC style fighting, pancrase all that shit. There are some devasting individuals competing. But if you notice on there feet none of them really show any "pro" style skills. There have been alot of guys have "trained" in boxing that fought in the UFC. I do not know of one former "pro" boxer that has competed. I maybe wrong. Not that into it. But the destruction of a proffesionally delivered punch is mind blowing. They have a saying in boxing it is not the one you see that knocks you out, it is the one you don't see. I would hard press to bet against a pro fighter bare knuckled. Seems most of the fighters who win those things (UFC) are in or two catergories........they are either the aggressor in the match or have superior conditioning. Boxers have tremendous conditioning, and with few instructions on the "gaurd" position I would bet they would much better than the UFC guys with a few boxing lessons. Just my two cents. (I am boxing fan)
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leonard vs. Hearns
Barrera vs. Morales (Both were fantastic)
Ivan Robinson vs. Gotti
All of Ricardo Lopez' fights..phenominal fighter text book perfect
All of tyson's earlier fights one sided , yet devasting from a fans perspective......
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OJ Simpson vs. Ronald Goldman was probably pretty intense.
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True, but since Pryor was whacked out of his mind by whatever his trainer had him huffing in the corner, it wasn't 100% fair. At least in the first fight. Because Arguello hit him with bombs that didn't even buckle his knees - hardly slowed Pryor down.Originally posted by bushwacker
being i'm an old boxing fan i remeber aaron pryor and alexis arguello...just a brutal fight
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Just watched Ward Vs Gatti on the site.
I gotta say, Hell of a fight!
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I remember that one... you're right that one was brutal!!Originally posted by bushwacker
being i'm an old boxing fan i remeber aaron pryor and alexis arguello...just a brutal fightLast edited by DTK; 09-24-2002, 05:06 PM.Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.Comment
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De La Hoya Vs. Vargas was definitely a great fight.
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Yes indeed... A women who likes boxing is the key to any mans heart strings... Don't tell me you cook and watch football on sunday or you may have a stalker on your hands.... LOLOriginally posted by Ambergirl
De La Hoya Vs. Vargas was definitely a great fight.
Brain over Brawn baby!
What about Sugar Ray Lenord Vs. Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
Those were the days...!Last edited by BT; 09-24-2002, 07:21 PM.
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I love Sugar Ray Leonard fights. My dad used to rent them on video and let us watch them when mom wasnt around. (she doesnt condone fight sports)Originally posted by BT_trafficcashgold
Yes indeed... A women who likes boxing is the key to any mans heart strings... Don't tell me you cook and watch football on sunday or you may have a stalker on your hands.... LOL
What about Sugar Ray Lenord Vs. Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
Those were the days...!
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