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  • femdomdestiny
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2007
    • 5182

    #31
    Originally posted by Elli
    "They" will never reach critical mass in the USA, especially if Obama's policies were continued UNCHANGED. Instead, Trump has to scribble out something slightly different but much more showy and take credit for "Keeping America Safe." If it goes wrong, then he does as you have done and blame his predecessors. If it goes right, he thinks he wins.

    Voter turnout is and was not the only problem. A huge problem was the education and information level of the voting public. Civics and logical thinking should be mandatory subjects in school to ensure the next generation of voters knows how to arm itself with real facts so they can form logical, valid opinions that are not simply based on emotions and catchphrases.
    So that is your opinion. And millions of other people have a different one, from various reasons and life experiences. That is precisely why there is voting. Everyone thinks that their facts are real. Including those guys with dynamite vests and beards. Actually, they don't question anything even if presented with other facts. Similar like people are acting here.

    It all depends on education, will to learn and control of information. Unfortunately, education is not free and what is even worse, are the medias that are controlled by someone's interests. At the top of that, books and history are written by those who are on power.

    There are no independent medias. Behind every report you see, there is someone's interest. Including promotion of Kim Kardashian's ass. Expecting that people have time and will to investigate things is utopia. It won't happen. So they will accept facts that are presented by someone who has an interest in forming their opinion and getting their vote. Lies and agendas are everywhere. Basic example that would go unnoticed to 99,99% of viewers. (0:22)



    Anyway, I am unsubscribing from this thread , shouldn't get here in first place, I should better write some fresh blog posts.
    Femdom Destiny


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    • wehateporn
      Promoting Debate on GFY
      • Apr 2007
      • 27176

      #32
      Originally posted by Elli
      Civics and logical thinking should be mandatory subjects in school to ensure the next generation of voters knows how to arm itself with real facts so they can form logical, valid opinions that are not simply based on emotions and catchphrases.
      Problem is logic, facts and valid opinions wouldn't put Hillary into office, on the contrary they would keep her out. Bernie would have been a clear winner against Trump, but dirty tricks were used to stop him, so the Democrats self-destructed and opened the way for The Donald.

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      • Struggle4Bucks
        Sieg Hi!
        • May 2011
        • 3615

        #33
        Originally posted by Bladewire
        We aren't a monarchy like yours in the Netherlands where your king signs a decree for his disciples who have to kiss his Gay rings
        The Dutch King only has a ceremonial function. No power or whatsoever...

        Originally posted by Barefootsies
        ...so those 2cents look like this:

        Half troll half amazing!

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        • nico-t
          emperor of my world
          • Aug 2004
          • 29903

          #34
          Originally posted by bronco67
          When nukes start flying
          Clinton lost

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          • Elli
            Reach for those stars!
            • Apr 2003
            • 17991

            #35
            Originally posted by femdomdestiny
            So that is your opinion. And millions of other people have a different one, from various reasons and life experiences. That is precisely why there is voting. Everyone thinks that their facts are real. Including those guys with dynamite vests and beards. Actually, they don't question anything even if presented with other facts. Similar like people are acting here.

            It all depends on education, will to learn and control of information. Unfortunately, education is not free and what is even worse, are the medias that are controlled by someone's interests. At the top of that, books and history are written by those who are on power.

            There are no independent medias. Behind every report you see, there is someone's interest. Including promotion of Kim Kardashian's ass. Expecting that people have time and will to investigate things is utopia. It won't happen. So they will accept facts that are presented by someone who has an interest in forming their opinion and getting their vote. Lies and agendas are everywhere. Basic example that would go unnoticed to 99,99% of viewers. (0:22)



            Anyway, I am unsubscribing from this thread , shouldn't get here in first place, I should better write some fresh blog posts.
            You say "everyone thinks their facts are real." No. Everyone has faith in their own arguments. Many of these arguments are not based on observable facts at all, but only emotion and sometimes anecdotal evidence. Remember the suggestion that "If we change our way of life, then the terrorists win?" That remains true today.

            One of the first steps to a fully literate and educated society is free (publicly paid for) education. Of course, someone is paying those teachers, etc. That is what taxes are for. And of course a human will be in charge of deciding how to direct those funds. That is what people like Betsy DeVos are for. Your election votes also go towards choosing those people and picking the best leaders for the job.

            To say there are no "independent" medias is a false fallacy. Sure, someone is running the news outlet and they are paid money by various parties. But many news outlets take care in releasing well researched and well sourced articles, and attempt to reduce bias in their reporting (except for op-ed pieces.) It is up to the viewer to search these sources out and encourage their work. Also, never get your news from just one source. Cobble together several of these well-researched news outlets and form your educated opinion from them.

            Clinton lost. Sure, she's lied a few times. But she's still a damn good politician with strong connections in the international community. Also, her hands might be a touch larger than Trump's. Was she the best candidate for the DNC to run? Probably not. The DNC needs to get its act together, as does the GOP and anyone else who wants a part in this dance.
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            • wehateporn
              Promoting Debate on GFY
              • Apr 2007
              • 27176

              #36
              Originally posted by bronco67
              When nukes start flying
              Quick fact to bring in here, it was Hillary who was going to bring in a 'no-fly zone' in Syria, i.e. Russia and Syria would be banned from flying and US would still be allowed to fly = initiation of WW3

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              • Bladewire
                StraightBro
                • Aug 2003
                • 56228

                #37
                Originally posted by wehateporn
                Quick fact to bring in here, it was Hillary who was going to bring in a 'no-fly zone' in Syria, i.e. Russia and Syria would be banned from flying and US would still be allowed to fly = initiation of WW3
                Link to your source please, not another informationliberation.com fake news link to waste everyone's time.


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                • directfiesta
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 30135

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bladewire
                  Link to your source please, not another informationliberation.com fake news link to waste everyone's time.
                  that is true ... Hilary was really hawkish .... I would of not voted for her , neither Trump ... Would have stayed home and banged a big tit slut
                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                  • femdomdestiny
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5182

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Elli
                    You say "everyone thinks their facts are real." No. Everyone has faith in their own arguments. Many of these arguments are not based on observable facts at all, but only emotion and sometimes anecdotal evidence. Remember the suggestion that "If we change our way of life, then the terrorists win?" That remains true today.

                    One of the first steps to a fully literate and educated society is free (publicly paid for) education. Of course, someone is paying those teachers, etc. That is what taxes are for. And of course a human will be in charge of deciding how to direct those funds. That is what people like Betsy DeVos are for. Your election votes also go towards choosing those people and picking the best leaders for the job.

                    To say there are no "independent" medias is a false fallacy. Sure, someone is running the news outlet and they are paid money by various parties. But many news outlets take care in releasing well researched and well-sourced articles, and attempt to reduce bias in their reporting (except for op-ed pieces.) It is up to the viewer to search these sources out and encourage their work. Also, never get your news from just one source. Cobble together several of these well-researched news outlets and form your educated opinion from them.

                    Clinton lost. Sure, she's lied a few times. But she's still a damn good politician with strong connections in the international community. Also, her hands might be a tough larger than Trump's.


                    As mentioned, that is your opinion based on your life experience. I could debate every single sentence of yours, whole night probably. (until now I've learned that is useless, because of many reasons that would again ask for tons of time spent to explain them. It is neverending spiral).

                    Personally, I've gone through coup d'etat, few wars (and witnessed psychological and sociological effects on the population) and a watched things Muslims are capable of doing that you probably never could even imagine people are doing. Otherwise, I think you would have a different opinion. Some of those things, I've tried to post here but were threatened to be banned for posting images of that nature. Obviously, people were not interested to investigate further on the subject as you are suggesting that they should.

                    In my case, I am trying to get as much data as possible if I am interested in some subject. So in my bookmark, I have American, Russian, Chinese, local and even Iranian news ( and I can spot a clear difference and a message behind the same news, depending on a source). This is just a response to your advice about getting news from more sources.

                    To put it in short. You people there are still well protected from what Muslims are bringing with them. From that point, the world must be looking different.Can't blame you. There were many who were using the same logic and thinking that it is possible to assimilate them long term. Near my place, there is a spot where middle east migrants are coming on their way in further illegal penetration in Europe. All I can say is that there is no normal person who would love to see them as neighbors or coworkers.
                    Femdom Destiny


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                    • wehateporn
                      Promoting Debate on GFY
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 27176

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bladewire
                      Link to your source please, not another informationliberation.com fake news link to waste everyone's time.
                      https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-russia-us-war

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                      • ilnjscb
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 8972

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Bladewire
                        Right. So when people disagree with YOU it's because of parisan media, but you didn't vote Trump, but support his bullshit. Got it
                        Are you trying to say "Parisian media"? You probably are. Bonehead, I don't "support his bullshit" I just don't believe in sitting around with my thumb up my ass in denial posting endless stupid posts on the internet.

                        If you oppose Trump by posting, you are making no difference other than demonstrating the need for enhanced spell checking.

                        If you actually care what happens, then call a few friends in swing states and convince them to vote next time.

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                        • Elli
                          Reach for those stars!
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 17991

                          #42
                          From the article:
                          "Staging a no-fly zone requires either the assent of regional allies ... or an expensive, open-ended and risky deployment of aircraft carrier groups to the eastern Mediterranean."

                          Considering the GOP would probably still have won a ton of seats even if Clinton took the big prize, getting this kind of thing approved could take a very long time and a lot of effort. It seems like a rash plan, but she had to say something strong on the ISIS front to counter Trump's "number one tricky" plan of "getting rid of ISIS in 30 days." She was waging a war of sound bites by October, as we all know, and losing badly.
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                          • bronco67
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 29032

                            #43
                            Originally posted by RedFred
                            I'd like to introduce you to the actual President Of The United States, an unmarried, lonely, angry, whiskey-soaked, pig fucker named Steve Bannon.


                            Exactly....Donald Trump doesn't believe in anything except being president and the center of attention and adoration. The United States is being governed by the ideology of Breitbart.com.

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                            • ilnjscb
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 8972

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Elli
                              Trump is definitely the president.

                              Not enough people voted. For such a strong democracy, you guys really need to improve your voter turnout. Perhaps this cycle will help with that. Canada has lackluster numbers in this area, too.

                              Yes. Volunteer. Campaign. Protest if you feel strongly. Exercise your first amendment rights.

                              Since you claim "the papers" are partisan bullshit, where do you source your news from? Any unbiased sources you can recommend?
                              Right now, unfortunately, all the media outlets (do you prefer that term?) are somewhat to very partisan. The best I can recommend is for you to read those publications that frequently post from a POV with which you do NOT agree. This might at least give you sense of what is going on. So for you, that would be Drudge Report and Breitbart. For a Trump supporter, it would be CNN and Huffington.

                              The real issue is 77,000 votes in three states. Call your friends. Don't judge, listen. Urge them to vote. Drive them if needed. That will actually make a difference.

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                              • bronco67
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 29032

                                #45
                                Originally posted by femdomdestiny
                                True, but it also didn't exist in many other countries at some point in history. Things are changing and a demographic picture is also changing. Especially with Muslims. They can be peaceful for decades until they get critical mass. Were they so aggressive in the UK in previous years? You know the answer. I 've watched them in Kosovo, working on their goal for decades. Literally, whole faimiles were silently working on the same goal.Even preparing money to finance mess. Everyone was calm until it was too late and until terrorist attacks started.

                                Once violence starts, it is almost impossible to stop it. Yes, USA is better position just like it was in WW2, far away from mess, and better keep it that way. If POTUS sucks so much, he will loose on next elections. Stay proud and learn to loose sometimes, it is not the end of the world. Not even close. As far as I know, millions didn't vote. Educate them for the next time why it is important to do it.
                                Like I said....

                                https://www.google.com/maps/@31.891534,11.1095509,3.08z

                                Take a look at how close Europe is to the hornet's nest...and how far away we are in geographical terms. That counts for a whole lot as it pertains to radical Islam problems.

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