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  • Matt 26z
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    • Apr 2002
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    #1

    FCC wants free broadband, and adult blocked!

    FCC Chairman Kevin Martin was just on CNBC talking about their plan to auction off part of the TV airwaves. The winner of this auction to take place next year would be required to offer free broadband, and block adult content.

    T-Mobile is protesting, saying that this will disrupt their plans on expanding their paid internet service.
  • kmanrox
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    • Oct 2001
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    #2
    how can they block adult? what about the 1st ammendment?
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    • Tanker
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      #3
      interesting, How many people would still pay for internet? I read that most people that buy High speed internet do so to watch porn or at least use it to watch porn

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      • Matt 26z
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        • Apr 2002
        • 18481

        #4
        He said that adults would be able to opt out of the filter, but what kind of process will this take?

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        • CIVMatt
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          • Aug 2004
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          #5
          In time google will offer our internet free...

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          • Matt 26z
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            • Apr 2002
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            #6
            Full story here...

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            • notoldschool
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              #7
              Always more good news on GFY.
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              • crockett
                in a van by the river
                • May 2003
                • 76818

                #8
                If they are going to block adult then I say they should have to block anything to do with church or religion. FSC should sue them on the basis of freedom of speech, that is if the FSC is still fighting for that kinda thing..
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                • GatorB
                  The Demon & 12clicks
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 18208

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kmanrox
                  how can they block adult? what about the 1st ammendment?
                  The FREE internet is blocked not the paid part.

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                  • GatorB
                    The Demon & 12clicks
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 18208

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tanker
                    interesting, How many people would still pay for internet? I read that most people that buy High speed internet do so to watch porn or at least use it to watch porn
                    The free interent is only going to be 768Kbps. Sorry even if it allowed porn I'd rather pay for my 10 Mbps connection.

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                    • GatorB
                      The Demon & 12clicks
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 18208

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Matt 26z
                      FCC Chairman Kevin Martin was just on CNBC talking about their plan to auction off part of the TV airwaves. The winner of this auction to take place next year would be required to offer free broadband, and block adult content.

                      T-Mobile is protesting, saying that this will disrupt their plans on expanding their paid internet service.
                      T-Mobile is protesting because they say internet over the airwaves would cause interference even though T-Mobile itself uses the SAME technology in Europe. With no interference by the way.

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                      • bloggingseo
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                        #12
                        Interesting

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                        • tony299
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                          • Aug 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by kmanrox
                          how can they block adult? what about the 1st ammendment?
                          its very gray at best. Also more and more free full scenes on easy to use tubes will feed this type of shit. its always been said dont police yourselves ,we will do it for you.

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                          • tranza
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                            • Jun 2003
                            • 57559

                            #14
                            That's just a dumb idea..
                            I'm just a newbie.

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                            • gideongallery
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by kmanrox
                              how can they block adult? what about the 1st ammendment?
                              the same way that pax can broadcast christian/family oriented tv
                              they are not cutting off access complete just from that limited spectrum.

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                              • pocketkangaroo
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by kmanrox
                                how can they block adult? what about the 1st ammendment?
                                Conservative Republicans don't believe that porn is covered under the 1st Amendment.

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                                • BV
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                                  • Sep 2001
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                                  #17
                                  i think it could be a good idea, providing you can opt out of the block

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                                  • pocketkangaroo
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                    The free interent is only going to be 768Kbps. Sorry even if it allowed porn I'd rather pay for my 10 Mbps connection.
                                    In a weird way, it may actually benefit the industry. 768Kbps isn't good, but it's also not unusable. It would create competition and may force cable companies to lower their prices to reasonable levels which could bring in new broadband users.

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                                    • iMind
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                      Conservative Republicans don't believe that porn is covered under the 1st Amendment.
                                      Rights are only rights until you infringe on others rights. That's why.

                                      No offence to anyone here, I work in adult too but if you can't see why they think it needs moderation you're fucked.

                                      Whether or not I think they SHOULD block it is a different story ( I obviously don't )
                                      I don't think the government has (or should have) any right to block anything.. if it's being controlled and regulated by it's own industry, which isn't happening in adult.

                                      Here's WHY they want to block it.

                                      Free speech comes above all else until you infringe on someone elses rights.. and when you can't even search google for non adult terms or check your email without some porn all over, it's infringing on the rights of people that don't want their inbox full of porn, or to see smut all over the net when they're not looking for it.

                                      We have webmasters spamming their BDSM sites on kids forums, 1000's of porn spam emails a day, Tube sites that do nothing to verify the viewer is of age, with thousands and thousands of videos, some being the sickest fucking videos you could imagine and you can't do anything, or search for anything without finding porn.. the adult industry has turned the net into a cesspool...

                                      You have to admit it's a little over the top sometimes in this biz.
                                      Perhaps it's time people in adult moderated themselves before the government does it for us.

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                                      • tony299
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                                        • Aug 2002
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                        In a weird way, it may actually benefit the industry. 768Kbps isn't good, but it's also not unusable. It would create competition and may force cable companies to lower their prices to reasonable levels which could bring in new broadband users.
                                        good point

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                                        • pocketkangaroo
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by iMind
                                          Free speech comes above all else until you infringe on someone elses rights.. and when you can't even search google for non adult terms or check your email without some porn all over, it's infringing on the rights of people that don't want their inbox full of porn, or to see smut all over the net when they're not looking for it.

                                          We have webmasters spamming their BDSM sites on kids forums, 1000's of porn spam emails a day, Tube sites that do nothing to verify the viewer is of age, with thousands and thousands of videos, some being the sickest fucking videos you could imagine and you can't do anything, or search for anything without finding porn.. the adult industry has turned the net into a cesspool...

                                          You have to admit it's a little over the top sometimes in this biz.
                                          Perhaps it's time people in adult moderated themselves before the government does it for us.
                                          I think guys knocking on my door trying to convert me to some religion is annoying. Some people think having to see Christmas lights everywhere is annoying. I personally hate turning on my TV and seeing reality shows on every other channel.

                                          While some may find a hardcore porn scene disgusting, I find parents who teach their kids creationism to be disgusting. What you are doing is regulating taste which is something our government should stay out of. Laws against spam and targeting children are fine (this is advertising methods, not porn issues), but we are talking about blocking legal content of consenting adults that are in demand by people. Totally different scenario.
                                          Last edited by pocketkangaroo; 12-02-2008, 05:34 PM.

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                                          • BlackCrayon
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                                            • Jun 2003
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                                            #22
                                            I'd like to know how they plan to block it. Just going by keywords alone would block many other sites as well.
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                                            • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                              #23
                                              Good, block adult, anybody too cheap to pay for internet, isn't going to buy any porn memberships.

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                                              • andy83
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                                                • Jun 2005
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                Good, block adult, anybody too cheap to pay for internet, isn't going to buy any porn memberships.
                                                good point

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                                                • Iron Fist
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                                                  #25
                                                  End of the world?
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                                                  • iMind
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                    I think guys knocking on my door trying to convert me to some religion is annoying. Some people think having to see Christmas lights everywhere is annoying. I personally hate turning on my TV and seeing reality shows on every other channel.
                                                    fuck me... is that seriously your reply?

                                                    1) put up a no soliciting, peddlers, or jehovas sign and it stops, try stopping porn spam or trying to stop porn from coming up in search results, it'll squeeze by anyway possible regardless of any filters or measures you take.

                                                    2) if you compare seeing Xmas lights to kids seeing BDSM while looking for video games, then it just goes to show how fucked this industries mentality is.. or at least yours.

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                                                    • JD
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                                                      • Sep 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                      Good, block adult, anybody too cheap to pay for internet, isn't going to buy any porn memberships.
                                                      exactly. My in-laws still use free dial up. I even offered to pay for their first 6 months of dsl/cable and they said no... Some people are beyond cheap.

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                                                      • Paul Markham
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                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 52942

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by GatorB
                                                        The free interent is only going to be 768Kbps. Sorry even if it allowed porn I'd rather pay for my 10 Mbps connection.
                                                        Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                        Good, block adult, anybody too cheap to pay for internet, isn't going to buy any porn memberships.
                                                        Good points. The kids who don't want to pay for Internet connections or don't pay because Dad does will be fucked. Try accessing a site at that speed with a million others doing the same. And that will be the real problem if it's taken up. Millions of people accessing it at once will slow it down. Why should the ISP bid for this knowing it's going to cost him billions to upgrade his system to give it away for free and get it ground to a snail pace. Hang on it's already at a snails pace.

                                                        It will tempt those who don't want to pay, not our biggest market.



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                                                        • KillerK
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by iMind
                                                          fuck me... is that seriously your reply?

                                                          1) put up a no soliciting, peddlers, or jehovas sign and it stops, try stopping porn spam or trying to stop porn from coming up in search results, it'll squeeze by anyway possible regardless of any filters or measures you take.

                                                          2) if you compare seeing Xmas lights to kids seeing BDSM while looking for video games, then it just goes to show how fucked this industries mentality is.. or at least yours.
                                                          well said, but he will argue it is the same thing.

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                                                          • Paul Markham
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                                                            • Jun 2001
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by iMind
                                                            Rights are only rights until you infringe on others rights. That's why.

                                                            No offence to anyone here, I work in adult too but if you can't see why they think it needs moderation you're fucked.

                                                            Whether or not I think they SHOULD block it is a different story ( I obviously don't )
                                                            I don't think the government has (or should have) any right to block anything.. if it's being controlled and regulated by it's own industry, which isn't happening in adult.
                                                            With the recent economic crisis anyone who advocates self regulation by any industry has to be smoking some pretty good stuff. Pass the roach.

                                                            Here's WHY they want to block it.

                                                            Free speech comes above all else until you infringe on someone elses rights.. and when you can't even search google for non adult terms or check your email without some porn all over, it's infringing on the rights of people that don't want their inbox full of porn, or to see smut all over the net when they're not looking for it.

                                                            We have webmasters spamming their BDSM sites on kids forums, 1000's of porn spam emails a day, Tube sites that do nothing to verify the viewer is of age, with thousands and thousands of videos, some being the sickest fucking videos you could imagine and you can't do anything, or search for anything without finding porn.. the adult industry has turned the net into a cesspool...

                                                            You have to admit it's a little over the top sometimes in this biz.
                                                            Perhaps it's time people in adult moderated themselves before the government does it for us.
                                                            Are you sure self regulation would get rid of any of the the above?

                                                            And that's the hole in your argument, did self regulation or even laws stop Enron and everyone else involved in inflating stocks so they could pay themselves massive bonuses? No we need governments to regulate us or we will all take advantage. It's not 100% but it's better than nothing.

                                                            Governments need to sit down together and resolve the situation with the Internet, content and business. It's a great way to make or lose money, it's a great way to communicate, it's also a great way to abuse the system. As you point out.



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                                                            • iMind
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                              With the recent economic crisis anyone who advocates self regulation by any industry has to be smoking some pretty good stuff. Pass the roach.


                                                              Are you sure self regulation would get rid of any of the the above?

                                                              And that's the hole in your argument, did self regulation or even laws stop Enron and everyone else involved in inflating stocks so they could pay themselves massive bonuses? No we need governments to regulate us or we will all take advantage. It's not 100% but it's better than nothing.

                                                              Governments need to sit down together and resolve the situation with the Internet, content and business. It's a great way to make or lose money, it's a great way to communicate, it's also a great way to abuse the system. As you point out.
                                                              I think if we all agreed to put porn behind a processor .. which won't happen of course, we'd all be alot richer.

                                                              Imagine, even a 40% reduction in free porn would mean higher bottom lines for ALL of us... and more would save the industry from becoming little more than an advertising medium. I see all these tube sites and wonder why we can't just slap a processor in there, and for the first time we'd actually be offering surfers a good members area but for some reason they're fucking FREE!

                                                              Pretty soon (if we're not there already, I suspect we're close) the ONLY way to make money off sites will be selling advertising, and the question there is to WHO? cause noones got any fucking money anymore..

                                                              You can say "speak for yourself" but I read this board almost daily, the writing's on the wall, people are suffering, long time webmasters are disappearing at an alarming rate, Bigger sites are swallowing smaller sites that used to turn a profit and now are being sold because the owners aren't making enough money to live.

                                                              I know we can't regulate ourselves, but a little common sense would be nice.
                                                              This industry is a bunch of cut throat losers that'd sell porn to kids in a second if it'll help beat the competition.

                                                              I imagine the gov's will band together slowly and block porn all together, unless some of us ( majority ) do something to get it all under control.

                                                              I don't understand what makes us all think that free shit will make us more money.
                                                              I remember the days where you had to search and search and search for porn, and I'd pay for it after getting frustrated enough.. Today, I jerk off at tube8 and that's not changing till it's gone

                                                              Sadly our surfers are doing the same, and the majority of us are in here saying it's not happening "Content is King" " find good content and they'll pay" are you guys BLIND? that good content is ALL over the fucking tubes .. such a heap of bullshit.

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                                                              • Paul Markham
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                                                                • Jun 2001
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by iMind
                                                                I think if we all agreed to put porn behind a processor .. which won't happen of course, we'd all be alot richer.

                                                                Imagine, even a 40% reduction in free porn would mean higher bottom lines for ALL of us... and more would save the industry from becoming little more than an advertising medium. I see all these tube sites and wonder why we can't just slap a processor in there, and for the first time we'd actually be offering surfers a good members area but for some reason they're fucking FREE!

                                                                Pretty soon (if we're not there already, I suspect we're close) the ONLY way to make money off sites will be selling advertising, and the question there is to WHO? cause noones got any fucking money anymore..
                                                                Agreed. The porn industry would be a much more wealthier business if consumers HAD to pay. But it's not going to happen very fast. But with the slowdown will the free sites survive with so many unable to pay?

                                                                I know we can't regulate ourselves, but a little common sense would be nice.
                                                                This industry is a bunch of cut throat losers that'd sell porn to kids in a second if it'll help beat the competition.
                                                                Yo made my point for me.

                                                                I imagine the gov's will band together slowly and block porn all together, unless some of us ( majority ) do something to get it all under control.

                                                                I don't understand what makes us all think that free shit will make us more money.
                                                                I remember the days where you had to search and search and search for porn, and I'd pay for it after getting frustrated enough.. Today, I jerk off at tube8 and that's not changing till it's gone
                                                                It makes the person putting the sites up richer and they don't give a fuck about the rest of us. That has been the ethic of this industry long before Tubes arrived. We have been fucking ourselves for years by fucking the consumer.

                                                                Sadly our surfers are doing the same, and the majority of us are in here saying it's not happening "Content is King" " find good content and they'll pay" are you guys BLIND? that good content is ALL over the fucking tubes .. such a heap of bullshit.
                                                                Sorry but I don't see a lot of good content on Tube sites. I see cloned porn scenes that are rarely worth paying for. If that's all it takes to get the surfer off then we are really in trouble.



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                                                                • bigalownz
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Tanker
                                                                  interesting, How many people would still pay for internet? I read that most people that buy High speed internet do so to watch porn or at least use it to watch porn
                                                                  that what the internet was made for


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                                                                  • bloggingseo
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                                    Good, block adult, anybody too cheap to pay for internet, isn't going to buy any porn memberships.
                                                                    You know this is so right.

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                                                                    • gideongallery
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by bigalownz
                                                                      that what the internet was made for


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                                                                      • iMind
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                        Sorry but I don't see a lot of good content on Tube sites. I see cloned porn scenes that are rarely worth paying for. If that's all it takes to get the surfer off then we are really in trouble.
                                                                        That IS all it takes to get people off.. Once we realize this.. .. maybe we can fix it.

                                                                        I think people are forgetting that porn used to be a fucking magazine , people were jerking off for DECADES to shitty pictures .. now they need hours of exclusive content? please..

                                                                        Mobile porn is growing by the day.. have you looked at a TGP on an iPhone? you can jerk off to that no problem and it's only 2 inches wide haha.

                                                                        I hit tube8 and within 4 minutes I'm wiping cum off my pant leg why should I pay for anything.

                                                                        Masterbation isn't dinner... most people aren't willing to pay anymore IMO.
                                                                        Last edited by iMind; 12-03-2008, 09:19 AM.

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                                                                        • iMind
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                          Agreed. The porn industry would be a much more wealthier business if consumers HAD to pay. But it's not going to happen very fast. But with the slowdown will the free sites survive with so many unable to pay?

                                                                          Yo made my point for me.
                                                                          That's cause I was agreeing with you, to a point

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                                                                          • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by iMind
                                                                            fuck me... is that seriously your reply?

                                                                            1) put up a no soliciting, peddlers, or jehovas sign and it stops, try stopping porn spam or trying to stop porn from coming up in search results, it'll squeeze by anyway possible regardless of any filters or measures you take.

                                                                            2) if you compare seeing Xmas lights to kids seeing BDSM while looking for video games, then it just goes to show how fucked this industries mentality is.. or at least yours.
                                                                            You missed the point. It's about legislating taste. It shouldn't be done by our government. It should be up to the individual person what they do online. No industry should be singled out.

                                                                            Since you believe this is a good idea, would you also be for blocking all religious, alcohol, tobacco, and fast food sites?

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                                                                            • iMind
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                              Since you believe this is a good idea, would you also be for blocking all religious, alcohol, tobacco, and fast food sites?
                                                                              Are they being rammed down childrens throats?

                                                                              if they were, and the industries were out of control and all over at the rate adult was... yes I would think they'd need to be regulated.

                                                                              YOu guys can spout free speech all you want, but what about a parents right not to have their kids exposed to hardcore porn at every bend in the internet?

                                                                              I missed NO point by the way.. noone is regulating the internet porn.. we certainly aren't, so who do you expect to fix it?

                                                                              MY point was if webmasters had some fucking morals, we wouldn't be facing this.

                                                                              I hope they make it illegal to put ANY porn outside a paid page..
                                                                              Think of magazines, the only way to see in them in the past was to pay for them and a few pornographers ( flint and hef etc ) made MILLIONS without any real effort( other than fighting censorship.. but that's a different story) , the shit sold itself... now there's so much free stuff that we have to TRICK people into buying it

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                                                                              • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by iMind
                                                                                Are they being rammed down childrens throats?

                                                                                if they were, and the industries were out of control and all over at the rate adult was... yes I would think they'd need to be regulated.

                                                                                YOu guys can spout free speech all you want, but what about a parents right not to have their kids exposed to hardcore porn at every bend in the internet?

                                                                                I missed NO point by the way.. noone is regulating the internet porn.. we certainly aren't, so who do you expect to fix it?

                                                                                MY point was if webmasters had some fucking morals, we wouldn't be facing this.

                                                                                I hope they make it illegal to put ANY porn outside a paid page..
                                                                                Think of magazines, the only way to see in them in the past was to pay for them and a few pornographers ( flint and hef etc ) made MILLIONS without any real effort( other than fighting censorship.. but that's a different story) , the shit sold itself... now there's so much free stuff that we have to TRICK people into buying it
                                                                                We have different views of the world then. I don't think a government should tell me what I can and can't view, you do. I don't think my government should be determining what is good taste, you do. It seems as though you want a system similar to what China has right now for their internet.

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Fuck fuck fuck fuck.
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