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  • dieselaction
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 84

    #51
    Originally posted by media
    WTF does NATs have anything to do with payouts? Its the responsibility of the program/owner to dump their payments and push them out.. NOT TMM/NATs..

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    • count of monte cristo
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2004
      • 473

      #52
      Originally posted by PBucksJohn
      However, I don't quite know what your motives are for creating this thread listing two threads, one which was on the front page, and the other which was over a year old and trying to somehow say that it is some sort of deficiency unique to the NATS platform. The fact that you carry no sig and don't identify yourself to anything in this business only makes me wonder more about those motives.
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      • KillerK
        Confirmed User
        • May 2008
        • 3406

        #53
        What about Porngraph?

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        • jcsike
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2006
          • 689

          #54
          Originally posted by KillerK
          What about Porngraph?
          Originally posted by Quick Buck
          John albright owned porngraph and fucked all the porngraph users because it was not making any money... then he used the money he earned to build nats.

          is this really news?.. are you really that dumb?
          who are you and its obvious you have a secret agenda

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          • borked
            Totally Borked
            • Feb 2005
            • 6284

            #55
            Originally posted by PBucksJohn
            ... as I don't even have access myself to our client's data. We do not store any passwords (server or admin) and we request access when needed and request its removed when we're done.
            It would have been nice to have been able to say "as I have never had access myself to our client's data. We have never stored any passwords (server or admin) and we have always requested access when needed and requested its removed when we're done. "

            Anyway, the thread title is really misleading and crap. This has nothing to do with NATS, more to do with a badly run affiliate-driven business

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            • jcsike
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2006
              • 689

              #56
              Originally posted by borked
              Anyway, the thread title is really misleading and crap. This has nothing to do with NATS, more to do with a badly run affiliate-driven business
              i think the point of the thread was that a badly run affiliate-driven business would still get a check if they were using ccbill or epoch

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              • whatif_3
                Registered User
                • Jul 2004
                • 459

                #57
                nats is solid as a rock

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                • Forkbeard
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 2236

                  #58
                  Originally posted by whatif_3
                  which ones besides teendolls?
                  Spankbuxx is another NATS client that currently seems to be going down in flames with many unhappy unpaid affiliates: GFY thread

                  That said, as an affiliate I prefer to see a NATS implementation over almost any other, because in my experience people using NATS are the most likely to have an effective billing cascade in place that actually converts my traffic. I'm not a NATS hater and I admire the product.

                  A fairer way to make the point in the original post would have been to contrast third party billers (in general) with inhouse billing-and-affiliate software providers (in general). The fundamental business distinction between these two approaches to the biz is an important one, although I think most affiliates who have been around the block already understand and "get it". We've also seen third party billers fail and take our money with them (remember iBill?) so it's really just another business tradeoff like the dozens we make every day.
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                  • gideongallery
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 7082

                    #59
                    personally i the only thing i really want nats to do is support multiple campaign codes at the same time.
                    if you have multiple sites and multiple sources of traffic it would be nice to be able to track the which combinations result in the best success. right now you have to composite those two into a single arguement (ie dailyfreegalleries-chokertraffic)
                    if multiple keywords were allowed dailyfreegalleries,chokertraffic

                    you could drill down look at the site statss dailyfreegalleries or look at chokertraffic cross all your sites, or see how choker traffic does with dailyfreegalleries.

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                    • Tempest
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • May 2004
                      • 10217

                      #60
                      Sweet.. Another NATs thread where PBucksJohn makes an ass of himself... You'd think that by now he'd have figured out he should have a PR person deal with these things on the boards...

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                      • whatif_3
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 459

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Forkbeard
                        Spankbuxx is another NATS client that currently seems to be going down in flames with many unhappy unpaid affiliates: GFY thread

                        That said, as an affiliate I prefer to see a NATS implementation over almost any other, because in my experience people using NATS are the most likely to have an effective billing cascade in place that actually converts my traffic. I'm not a NATS hater and I admire the product.

                        A fairer way to make the point in the original post would have been to contrast third party billers (in general) with inhouse billing-and-affiliate software providers (in general). The fundamental business distinction between these two approaches to the biz is an important one, although I think most affiliates who have been around the block already understand and "get it". We've also seen third party billers fail and take our money with them (remember iBill?) so it's really just another business tradeoff like the dozens we make every day.
                        i see, thanks, and good points

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                        • TMM_John
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2004
                          • 6665

                          #62
                          Originally posted by gideongallery
                          personally i the only thing i really want nats to do is support multiple campaign codes at the same time.
                          if you have multiple sites and multiple sources of traffic it would be nice to be able to track the which combinations result in the best success. right now you have to composite those two into a single arguement (ie dailyfreegalleries-chokertraffic)
                          if multiple keywords were allowed dailyfreegalleries,chokertraffic

                          you could drill down look at the site statss dailyfreegalleries or look at chokertraffic cross all your sites, or see how choker traffic does with dailyfreegalleries.
                          Shoot me an email to albright/toomuchmedia/com I'd like to discuss this with you.


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                          • TMM_John
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2004
                            • 6665

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Tempest
                            Sweet.. Another NATs thread where PBucksJohn makes an ass of himself... You'd think that by now he'd have figured out he should have a PR person deal with these things on the boards...
                            Yes, you're clearly far superior to me in running/growing a company. I bow down before your greatness.


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                            • brassmonkey
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                              • Sep 2005
                              • 77390

                              #64
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                              • seeandsee
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                                • Mar 2006
                                • 50945

                                #65
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                                • SomeCreep
                                  :glugglug
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 26118

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by count of monte cristo
                                  is the reliability of receiving the payments from the Program owners. You know CCBill or Epoch wont overlook sending checks out.
                                  I totally agree. I have one NATS sponsor right now who I have to email every time I want to get paid what I am owed or else they never seem to send out my payments.

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                                  • whatif_3
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2004
                                    • 459

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                    I totally agree. I have one NATS sponsor right now who I have to email every time I want to get paid what I am owed or else they never seem to send out my payments.
                                    not to mention most nats sponsors dont pay every week, most go every 2 weeks, some once a month

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                                    • count of monte cristo
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 473

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by PBucksJohn
                                      Yes, you're clearly far superior to me in running/growing a company. I bow down before your greatness.
                                      pretty arrogant for owning a program with payment problems.
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