A Message From Bruce of Adult B2B Marketing
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thanks sykk
i was actually quite polite when canceling our meeting as I had a meeting with a large program about processing
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Because branding can't possibly increase your profits by as much as 25%... and it costs SO much less money to get a new customer than to retain one. Bah... branding... I mean... whats the point of it? Didn't do shit for Nike, or Coca-Cola, or Apple, or Playboy....
Engagement Marketing/Brand Development
K2Dynamics, Inc.
[email protected] | ICQ: 40794650 | skype: andreajmataComment
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Because branding can't possibly increase your profits by as much as 25%... and it costs SO much less money to retain a customer than to get a new one. Bah... branding... I mean... whats the point of it? Didn't do shit for Nike, or Coca-Cola, or Apple, or Playboy....


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Keep building up that post count man. Who the fuck are you anyway? Do you ever say anything nice on this board? Your opinion is worth about as much as those nothings Damage X and the Oprano morons.We have ALL seen it enough times to recognize it as something we have seen before, when you post your redundant "news"... most of the times years ago.
You are a mix between a snake oil salesman and a Nigerian Scammer. You are here to cheat money out of those that dont see through your bullshit, and I HATE people that do business that wayComment
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I'm shaking
Allow me to correct myself, Oprano posted my pm's. But it doesn't matter, as they say here in Thailand, same, same.
Another thing you and the Oprano jerks have in common is the thought that they are all powerful. What are you Damage the "wonderful wizard of porn"?Comment
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Forest
Forest as I recall, you requested the meeting. And then you were about as rude as anyone I've ever thought about doing business with. Excuse me for sending you the newsletter before you unsubscribed. It was a mistake. I only meant to send that out to people who would understand sound marketing concepts.Comment
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Gonzo
Gonzo and I heard all about how ethical you are man. I was speaking with one of the most respected people in this industry last night, who will go nameless. Scum, slimeball, asshole, jerk and dick was how you were described. And those were the nice things he had to say. Your board is known by the good and ethical people in this business as a sewer and he told me to steer clear. And you and Toby were the ones who posted my pm's, not Ask Damage. So the only thing that makes you a bigger dick then them is that you break the law. Oh, I forgot fat bastard, sorry.Comment
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Juicy
Juicy I thought I'd never respond to one of your posts, but I can't resist. You are the post whore of all post whores. If you insult me it just makes me feel better about myself.Comment
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The whole thing
Well, if you'd read the entire thing instead of just a snipet from it you'd understand Andrea. It works if you have billions of dollars. But if you don't there are better ways to market.Because branding can't possibly increase your profits by as much as 25%... and it costs SO much less money to get a new customer than to retain one. Bah... branding... I mean... whats the point of it? Didn't do shit for Nike, or Coca-Cola, or Apple, or Playboy....
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No, actually- I did read the whole thing - not just a snippet - and it blew my mind. Marketing is a whole number of things, and branding is one of those things. It's a sound marketing strategy to build brand loyalty, if for no other reason than it costs less to retain an existing customer than it does to acquire a new one.
ANY good marketing plan should include a strategy to entice existing customers to not only stay with your product but to recommend it to others - as well as to draw in new clientele. But establishing a brand identity WILL bring in new clientele - even for a small company. It separates the wheat from the chaff and makes you stand out amongst your competition.Engagement Marketing/Brand Development
K2Dynamics, Inc.
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Not to add salt to the wounds but the hothardcash.com sites are some of the worst sites ever. Even worse is that the 2257 address is listed in Thailand, with Thai content.
Not the work of a brilliant businessman
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You mean like making a complete fool out of yourself on half the adult webmaster boards out there? Yes, I agree, great exposure.
Here you go Brucey, buy this, it'll set you back much less than 40 grand and actually teach you something. Once you've read it, come back and play marketer with us.Whitehat is for chumps
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Im glad to see my popularity is rising!Gonzo and I heard all about how ethical you are man. I was speaking with one of the most respected people in this industry last night, who will go nameless. Scum, slimeball, asshole, jerk and dick was how you were described. And those were the nice things he had to say. Your board is known by the good and ethical people in this business as a sewer and he told me to steer clear. And you and Toby were the ones who posted my pm's, not Ask Damage. So the only thing that makes you a bigger dick then them is that you break the law. Oh, I forgot fat bastard, sorry.
Keep up the good work!!!
While your at it post some more of those wonderful 40K ebook tips.Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!"I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."All the information above is my personal opinion.Comment
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I sell 40k ebooks - want some? I just downloaded a new batch through TPBComment
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BruceForest as I recall, you requested the meeting. And then you were about as rude as anyone I've ever thought about doing business with. Excuse me for sending you the newsletter before you unsubscribed. It was a mistake. I only meant to send that out to people who would understand sound marketing concepts.
you recall wrong. I agreed to meet with you after you approached my partner and I and i only agreed to it because Im a nice guy and dont like to say no to anyone.
Ive been marketing in adult successfully for over 9 years and I doubt there is anything you could teach me
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see bruce you dont have a clue.
keep digging your grave. Every single potential client who reads how you act in these threads just shake there head and add you to the do not do business with list
but then again your marketing is working! just not in the way you would like
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how dare you contradict the brilliant marketing mind of BruceBecause branding can't possibly increase your profits by as much as 25%... and it costs SO much less money to get a new customer than to retain one. Bah... branding... I mean... whats the point of it? Didn't do shit for Nike, or Coca-Cola, or Apple, or Playboy....
his ebooks know all and see all
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There goes those riches promised by that ebook ad on Ebay.No, actually- I did read the whole thing - not just a snippet - and it blew my mind. Marketing is a whole number of things, and branding is one of those things. It's a sound marketing strategy to build brand loyalty, if for no other reason than it costs less to retain an existing customer than it does to acquire a new one.
ANY good marketing plan should include a strategy to entice existing customers to not only stay with your product but to recommend it to others - as well as to draw in new clientele. But establishing a brand identity WILL bring in new clientele - even for a small company. It separates the wheat from the chaff and makes you stand out amongst your competition.Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!"I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."All the information above is my personal opinion.Comment
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Common man
what are you talking about. Bruce makes BILLIONs off of his websites thats why he can offer such great deals on his marketing effortsComment
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see bruce you dont have a clue.
keep digging your grave. Every single potential client who reads how you act in these threads just shake there head and add you to the do not do business with list
but then again your marketing is working! just not in the way you would like

He has a point. I have no horse in this race but your not coming across as professional at all.
TPF 2010 "They are eating our sausages!"Comment
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Bruce doesn't seem to read very well, so I'll use a picture instead...
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OMG its banana claires long lost brother or husband or some shit. holy balls you are retarded and dumb. poor kid.Comment
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Actually, now that I think about it...Bruce has probably actually put some money in my pocket...
Bruce, which ebook was your favorite? I'm willing to bet it was one of my titles I wrote or co-wrote
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Well said
I couldn't have said it better. Keep reading the tips and the newsletters. I don't know why anything I wrote would have blown your mind. I think we agree on much more then we disagree on.No, actually- I did read the whole thing - not just a snippet - and it blew my mind. Marketing is a whole number of things, and branding is one of those things. It's a sound marketing strategy to build brand loyalty, if for no other reason than it costs less to retain an existing customer than it does to acquire a new one.
ANY good marketing plan should include a strategy to entice existing customers to not only stay with your product but to recommend it to others - as well as to draw in new clientele. But establishing a brand identity WILL bring in new clientele - even for a small company. It separates the wheat from the chaff and makes you stand out amongst your competition.Comment
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Too much time on your hands
Forest if you were so successful you wouldn't be spending all day on line replying to your own shit on these posts. My god, you have way too much time on your hands. I check this once a day to see how many stupid, uninformed comments can be collected.see bruce you dont have a clue.
keep digging your grave. Every single potential client who reads how you act in these threads just shake there head and add you to the do not do business with list
but then again your marketing is working! just not in the way you would like

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Know it all
Obviously not Forest, you know it all.Bruce
you recall wrong. I agreed to meet with you after you approached my partner and I and i only agreed to it because Im a nice guy and dont like to say no to anyone.
Ive been marketing in adult successfully for over 9 years and I doubt there is anything you could teach me

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OMG, I've known Forest for way too long and I have to say that I have never, ever, ever known him to be rude, nor have I known anyone else to say he was rude. EVER! It's just not in his nature.
Calling Forest rude is like calling me tall and thin ;)
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The point is, that you didn't say it at all. I don't think I need to read the tips and newsletters, actually. I'm confident that I'm more than familiar with marketing concepts and strategies. And we DO fundamentally disagree.
"We don't believe in marketing just for the sake of "branding". Branding doesn't sell, creative marketing does sell."
Not to turn this into a Marketing 101 lesson, but:
1. ALL marketing is a creative venture on some level.
2. "Branding" is at the heart of creative marketing.
With no brand awareness, with no brand consistency, with no brand relevance, you're throwing away money in your marketing efforts. You become a sheep amid all the other sheep.
Your job as a marketing professional is to discover and understand your clients customer, set your client apart from their competition, create a message that is relevant to that customer, and to deliver it frequently, creatively and consistently. If you do that, the brand builds itself. But to say that branding doesn't sell? That's cutting off your nose to spite your face. "Branding" is the ultimate goal of marketing.Engagement Marketing/Brand Development
K2Dynamics, Inc.
[email protected] | ICQ: 40794650 | skype: andreajmataComment
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you do realize you are talking to a dipshit right? he and banana bitch wouldn't know even the difference between marketing or branding.The point is, that you didn't say it at all. I don't think I need to read the tips and newsletters, actually. I'm confident that I'm more than familiar with marketing concepts and strategies. And we DO fundamentally disagree.
"We don't believe in marketing just for the sake of "branding". Branding doesn't sell, creative marketing does sell."
Not to turn this into a Marketing 101 lesson, but:
1. ALL marketing is a creative venture on some level.
2. "Branding" is at the heart of creative marketing.
With no brand awareness, with no brand consistency, with no brand relevance, you're throwing away money in your marketing efforts. You become a sheep amid all the other sheep.
Your job as a marketing professional is to discover and understand your clients customer, set your client apart from their competition, create a message that is relevant to that customer, and to deliver it frequently, creatively and consistently. If you do that, the brand builds itself. But to say that branding doesn't sell? That's cutting off your nose to spite your face. "Branding" is the ultimate goal of marketing.

Don Pueblo
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have I told you I love you lately? ;)
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see bruce
unlike you I work smart not hard. I have a staff and a manager to manage that staff so I can market and drum up new business with a formula that actually works. I have the luxury of taking my gf to lunch and going to the gym and trade my stocks all while making money in the adult internet.
If you want to pay me 40k Id be more then happy to show u the secrets. It would be a much better investment then your ebooks you keep copy and pastingComment




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