Fact: Even with INCREASED minimum wages, HIRING continues to GROW

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  • blackmonsters
    Making PHP work
    • Nov 2002
    • 20960
    #31
    Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
    Sorry if you have to work for minimum wage rates but look what states have the lowest wage rates ...

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...e-by-us-state/ <chart

    ^^ maybe, manufacturing spoons are too low of value added to be made domestically at a livable wage?
    Compare this link to your link above :

    The 10 Poorest States In America - Business Insider

    Do you see a correlation?
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      • crockett
        in a van by the river
        • May 2003
        • 76818
        #32
        Originally posted by imabro
        Not sure I understand that comment; is it your contention that the guy that lost his $40/hour job can pick up a $15/hour job?
        My contention is this topic is about Seattle not losing but gaining jobs after they raised min wage to $15/hr. If someone loses a $40/hr job, it has nothing to do with minimum wage being $8 or $15..
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          • beerptrol
            Confirmed Asshole
            • Feb 2003
            • 12722
            #33
            Look at Walmart, a good percentage of their employees get some kind of government assistance, while the company gets tax breaks and other government subsidies. A double whammy to tax payers
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              • spads
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2013
                • 344
                #34
                Originally posted by Bladewire
                When I lived in Australia the minimum wage was $17 an hour, $600 a week roughly, and rent was dirt cheap as was food. That was the MINIMUM wage. I asked this waitress at a hole in the wall cafe how much she made and she got $20 an hour.

                America has been far behind the times internationally for 20 or so years.

                Over the 5 year's I lived there, EVERYONE I met over 30 OWNED an apartment they rented out and OWNED a home they lived in, most owned recreational boats. These were not rich people these were people with one full time job. This is why i, as an American, went through the citizenship process in Australia

                False. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...ity2=Melbourne

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                  • Bladewire
                    StraightBro
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 56228
                    #35
                    Originally posted by spads
                    False. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...ity2=Melbourne
                    True: Minimum wage is $17.70 now $672.70 per 38 hour week Minimum wages - Fact sheets - Fair Work Ombudsman

                    And the chart on the bottom of your page, on your undated data comparison, shows its more expensive to live in Seattle.

                    And who the fuck wants to live in overpriced rainy cold Melbourne? I why the fuck you cherry pick Seattle to compare? You need to compare to the Gold Coast, where I lived, or Bribane. Nice warm beach life & affordable living

                    And smart people would compare their current city with the one they're moving to, not random places


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                      • PornDiscounts-V
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 5744
                        #36
                        Originally posted by crockett
                        Oh please all the GFY right wing bats were raging about it and telling us all how Seattle was going to fail and businesses would run away screaming.. All the typical Doom & Gloom BS because they will never admit their failed trickle down ideology and attack on the middle class is what's really destroying this country..
                        Exactly. Those white shirt, red hat, make a America great again idiots who were in line to vote for a billionaire like he really gives a shit about them when he's hiring foreign workers and making his Trump line products overseas don't understand that conservatives on whole don't give two shits about them and love to keep them stupid.
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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942
                            #37
                            Originally posted by crockett
                            But that's not what this is about. This is about that worker being able to be paid a livable wage if he loses his $40/hr job.

                            Don't try to make this about something else because you know the ideology you want ti support is a failure.
                            Are you ready to pay double for a Starbucks, Macdonalds, more taxes or any product/service relies on people earning a low wage?



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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942
                                #38
                                Originally posted by crockett
                                It hasn't worked like that because it became more important to pay CEOS and shareholders all the corporate profits at the expense of the workers. In a quest to keep pushing constant profits for shareholders, wages were reduced and then the jobs shipped overseas so wages could be reduced even more.

                                This came because of failed trickle down economics.. Reagan was the first to open the doors to China and everyone since has left them open.

                                Corporations like trickle down because they benifit. The average worker gets fucked though and that's where the govt should be trying to protect them.
                                Now we agree. Except you didn't mention you paying more for goods made in the US.



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                                  • Paul Markham
                                    Too old to care
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 52942
                                    #39
                                    Originally posted by beerptrol
                                    Look at Walmart, a good percentage of their employees get some kind of government assistance, while the company gets tax breaks and other government subsidies. A double whammy to tax payers
                                    And Americans wonder why the country needs to borrow more money!!!!



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                                      • Paul Markham
                                        Too old to care
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 52942
                                        #40
                                        Originally posted by imabro
                                        Not sure I understand that comment; is it your contention that the guy that lost his $40/hour job can pick up a $15/hour job?
                                        Crockett lives in a fantasy world. Where he thinks raising someone's wages, won't cost him any money.



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                                          • Paul Markham
                                            Too old to care
                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 52942
                                            #41
                                            Originally posted by vvvvv
                                            Exactly. Those white shirt, red hat, make a America great again idiots who were in line to vote for a billionaire like he really gives a shit about them when he's hiring foreign workers and making his Trump line products overseas don't understand that conservatives on whole don't give two shits about them and love to keep them stupid.
                                            Agree. It's down to voters to stop voting for the people who have been in power and made sure the US is in decline.



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                                              • Paul Markham
                                                Too old to care
                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 52942
                                                #42
                                                Originally posted by crockett
                                                My contention is this topic is about Seattle not losing but gaining jobs after they raised min wage to $15/hr. If someone loses a $40/hr job, it has nothing to do with minimum wage being $8 or $15..
                                                It has everything to do with the wages that replace the previous wages. to the people looking for a job.



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                                                  • Barry-xlovecam
                                                    It's 42
                                                    • Jun 2010
                                                    • 18083
                                                    #43
                                                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                    Compare this link to your link above :

                                                    The 10 Poorest States In America - Business Insider

                                                    Do you see a correlation?
                                                    And I was tempted to point out their political affiliations also ...

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                                                      • slapass
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 14625
                                                        #44
                                                        Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                        You're saying that the SERVICE and MANUFACTURING sectors are SO DIFFERENT that they react differently from increased wages? Which differences account for the difference in effect?
                                                        Exports. Local manufacturing would be effected by imports. And non local could suffer do to the region it is importing to having lower wages.

                                                        The better idea is to do this as a nation and let the effect of inflation even it out again. What is dumber yet is it would help decrease the US debt and improve the whole situation. We just have people who don't get economics in this country and for some reason those same people become politicians.

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